Deano goes off…. Freised

Herr Lich wrote:

Everyone comes on here being tough guys - 'take him out', 'break him in half' etc with no consideration of the riders themselves.  The majority of...

Everyone comes on here being tough guys - 'take him out', 'break him in half' etc with no consideration of the riders themselves.  The majority of them admit they have no skill at 'taking people out' and also know there's a big risk of taking yourself out in the process.  Add to this, all the top riders know on-track bullshit never leads to decent results.  Just look at Jason Anderson's career for example.  Yeah, yeah, I realise he's won a reasonable amount of races and a championship but he's also fucked up a lot more by getting involved in constant beefs.  

In short, why should riders - who are already involved in an extremely dangerous sport - have to police other riders?  That's the job of clear rules and clear enforcement.  If Anderson, Dum Dum and Sleaze were faced with a season-long ban they would soon pull their heads in. 

Finally, the fact that some of you tough guys may have stories from your local track where you roughed up another rider doesn't apply. Pro riders are not c-class weekend warriors plodding around the track at zimmer frame level speeds.  Hence the risk is much higher. 

Pop Shmoke wrote:

“Thats the job of clear rules and clear enforcement” Ok and theyre not being enforced, now what? 

Herr Lich wrote:

That's my point - the rules are not clear - they're way to imprecise - and the enforcement is even worse.  But the solution is not...

That's my point - the rules are not clear - they're way to imprecise - and the enforcement is even worse.  But the solution is not to resort to frontier justice, it's to fix the rules and enforcement.  You imagine how riders like Sleaze, Old Hombre, and Dum Dum would change if instead of losing a few spots in the race, or a few points, or $1000, they were hit with $50,000 fines and lengthy bans from competing.  

In terms of affecting change to the rules and enforcement regime at the AMA, the teams have all the power here - they should refuse to compete unless the situation is rectified. 

Pop Shmoke wrote:

Youre right…. its not like these guys are pro’s or anything. Only top tier super elite guys like vince have the ability, back marker schmucks like...

Youre right…. its not like these guys are pro’s or anything. Only top tier super elite guys like vince have the ability, back marker schmucks like dean wilson could never. Its a rare skill that only 3 riders in sx history have ever attained, vince friese, justin barcia, and weston peick. Thats it, the big 3. Thats why you never see it happen at the local races, the guys just arent good enough. Theres nothing deano can do about it except make ig stories after the smoke clears. He just doesnt have the talent that is required to crash his bike into somebody, he doesnt unlock his hips enough and his core strength isnt up to par. Thats why its reserved for the true greats of the sport like vincent. 

MxAddic wrote:

Deano signed off on contact racing when he got into with Tomac and tore the hell out of his shoulder years ago.Kind of like Kenny avoids...

Deano signed off on contact racing when he got into with Tomac and tore the hell out of his shoulder years ago.

Kind of like Kenny avoids contact after he got his arm in Webb's wheel.

He has 2 options. Put Vince on the ground or retire.

gerg wrote:

Wasn't that the other way around?The way I remember it is Deano put a hard pass on Eli, then Eli cleaned him out and wrecked Dean's...

Wasn't that the other way around?

The way I remember it is Deano put a hard pass on Eli, then Eli cleaned him out and wrecked Dean's shoulder.

I'll try find a video.

 

Edit:  Found the vid.  Dean's move on Eli was more aggressive than I remembered, and Eli's move was less aggressive than I remembered.

TeamGreen wrote:

As someone that’s been watching him since his early days…I have to ask…Isn’t Vince involved in an awful lot of this shit? Didn’t we have an...

As someone that’s been watching him since his early days…I have to ask…

Isn’t Vince involved in an awful lot of this shit? Didn’t we have an identical situation…just last season? Why is it that his name ALWAYS comes up and it involves a shitty on-track move…and…yet…here we are…

Again. 

HOWEVER…I’m not interested in “so-n-so is an Ass Hole” or any other such stupidity…at all. I’ve heard people talk shit on everyone from The Man to Danny LaPorte to MC and it’s all just…well, it goes no where and it’s stupid. 

Vince IS constantly “at the center” of this shit.

Vince IS a problem.

Disciplinary Action…LEGITIMATE…disciplinary action is waaaaay past due. Action against THE RIDER, that is. Personally, I’d take his eligibility away for a period of time. That would be ALL licensing associated with the FIM. What the AMA chooses to do is entirely up to them and I’d leave that to their discretion.

For the record, I like Vince; but, he needs to change his behavior out on the track and he needs to learn to stop being a safety hazard. Time to lose the black hat. 

Josh422 wrote:

Can someone put together a complete Vince highlight reel from over the years tor me to enjoy on YouTube? Offering one like and subscribe.

jambalaya wrote:

“Deano” makes the people swoon as much as anyone not named industry cool kid Christian Craig. But this is a good time to remind everyone of the...

“Deano” makes the people swoon as much as anyone not named industry cool kid Christian Craig. 

But this is a good time to remind everyone of the most badass takeout the past 20 years has seen. 

Tomac was dominating the 250 west championship but DNFed a race in San Diego. This gave “Deano” the confidence that he was in a title fight (although tomac pretty much dominated every race). At the last race of the season, he tried to be captain badass and fuck with tomac multiple times. 

Tomac put him in the cheap seats, breaking his collarbone I believe. 

“Deano” “fucked around and found out”

jwoods121 wrote:

I don't know why the other riders don't just start making Vince's life hell on the track. That dude needs a reality check. 

chump6784 wrote:

Dean has been crying about Freise for ages but done nothing about it. Freise knows Dean won't do shit so he knows he'll get away with...

Dean has been crying about Freise for ages but done nothing about it. Freise knows Dean won't do shit so he knows he'll get away with it. 

Time for Dean to man up and put an end to it

Pop Shmoke wrote:

I was going to post the exact same thing. Deano keeps getting smoked by vince over and over and over and over and over and over...

I was going to post the exact same thing. Deano keeps getting smoked by vince over and over and over and over and over and over and keeps doing nothing about it. Vince knows he can do whatever he wants to deano because he knows deano wont do anything about it. Every time something happens he makes a video talking about how fucked up it is and then just goes back to riding clean around vince. Then vince punts him again and he yet again has a surprised pikachu face that something happened… again. 

If deano wants it to stop he has to go make it stop, because the promoters have shown a thousand times over that theyre not going to do anything about it. GO TAKE MONEY OUT OF HIS POCKET and then hell get the picture. Deano needs to take his panties off and go punt vince into the 5th row. Yes it sucks and everybody totally gets it, the promoters should do something about it, vince shouldnt be a douche, and you should be able to just go race without being murdered. But thats not the reality you live in so you need to go do something about it. 

Remember when barcia had the red plate and did a super dirty hit on bogle ruining his race so bogle waited for barcia to come all the way back around the track again and fuckin bombed him into the stratosphere? Never heard about barcia screwing with bogle again since then did you? This is motocross its not salsa dancing. Grow a pair and destroy his fucking world for once and then hell think twice next time. If not then keep being his whipping boy for the rest of your life. 

MusquinsAju wrote:

Where is Vince from? Someone should search his public record. See if he’s actually an aggressive person and what his background looks like. People say he’s...

Where is Vince from? Someone should search his public record. See if he’s actually an aggressive person and what his background looks like. People say he’s different off the bike, but I’m curious. Don’t know why he always tries to hurt people. I’m all for hard riding but cmon dude, this is excessive. NOBODY likes to race you. YOU in particular, are hated by other riders. It’s not just dean. Ask JT, ask Christian Craig, ask literally anyone.

Gordon Liddy wrote:

It would be cool if ALL the other riders got together  and refused to race unless Vince was removed.  They would have no choice but to...

It would be cool if ALL the other riders got together  and refused to race unless Vince was removed.  They would have no choice but to pull him.

MxAddic wrote:

Deano signed off on contact racing when he got into with Tomac and tore the hell out of his shoulder years ago.Kind of like Kenny avoids...

Deano signed off on contact racing when he got into with Tomac and tore the hell out of his shoulder years ago.

Kind of like Kenny avoids contact after he got his arm in Webb's wheel.

He has 2 options. Put Vince on the ground or retire.

gerg wrote:

Wasn't that the other way around?The way I remember it is Deano put a hard pass on Eli, then Eli cleaned him out and wrecked Dean's...

Wasn't that the other way around?

The way I remember it is Deano put a hard pass on Eli, then Eli cleaned him out and wrecked Dean's shoulder.

I'll try find a video.

 

Edit:  Found the vid.  Dean's move on Eli was more aggressive than I remembered, and Eli's move was less aggressive than I remembered.

joshd wrote:

That was the beginning of the end for Deano. 

BoxcarWilly wrote:

I love Deano, but enough bitching about this already. Send him into orbit or quit whining about it. 

BoxcarWilly wrote:

I love Deano, but enough bitching about this already. Send him into orbit or quit whining about it. 

Boomslang wrote:

Dean is a respectful dude on and off the track. Why must he stoop to Vince's level?

MusquinsAju wrote:

Where is Vince from? Someone should search his public record. See if he’s actually an aggressive person and what his background looks like. People say he’s...

Where is Vince from? Someone should search his public record. See if he’s actually an aggressive person and what his background looks like. People say he’s different off the bike, but I’m curious. Don’t know why he always tries to hurt people. I’m all for hard riding but cmon dude, this is excessive. NOBODY likes to race you. YOU in particular, are hated by other riders. It’s not just dean. Ask JT, ask Christian Craig, ask literally anyone.

Herr Lich wrote:

I've yet to hear a single positive comment from any rider about racing Friese.  He's a menace and should have been banned years ago. 

BoxcarWilly wrote:

I love Deano, but enough bitching about this already. Send him into orbit or quit whining about it. 

Boomslang wrote:

Dean is a respectful dude on and off the track. Why must he stoop to Vince's level?

lostboy819 wrote:

Because otherwise Vince will keep making Wison his bitch.

psychotronBR wrote:

I really hope that someday, someone finally blows up, rides right through him and breaks him in half. Karma is a bitch and it's about time this...

I really hope that someday, someone finally blows up, rides right through him and breaks him in half. 

Karma is a bitch and it's about time this fucking clown gets what's comming to him.

Magoofan wrote:

Wishing physical harm against a rider.... pretty low man...pretty fuckin low.       

gerg wrote:

Wasn't that the other way around?The way I remember it is Deano put a hard pass on Eli, then Eli cleaned him out and wrecked Dean's...

Wasn't that the other way around?

The way I remember it is Deano put a hard pass on Eli, then Eli cleaned him out and wrecked Dean's shoulder.

I'll try find a video.

 

Edit:  Found the vid.  Dean's move on Eli was more aggressive than I remembered, and Eli's move was less aggressive than I remembered.

joshd wrote:

That was the beginning of the end for Deano. 

Chris_Buehler wrote:

Yes it was

Graybeard wrote:

It's Australia, right? I wonder if the Aussie court / judicial system would have anything to say about this incident? 

phillipmccavity wrote:

I genuinely want to see a racing incident where Vince Friese gets taking out savagely. I hope he races and the fellow racers make an agreement to...

I genuinely want to see a racing incident where Vince Friese gets taking out savagely. 
I hope he races and the fellow racers make an agreement to target him collectively. 
Fun to watch that. 

MusquinsAju wrote:

Where is Vince from? Someone should search his public record. See if he’s actually an aggressive person and what his background looks like. People say he’s...

Where is Vince from? Someone should search his public record. See if he’s actually an aggressive person and what his background looks like. People say he’s different off the bike, but I’m curious. Don’t know why he always tries to hurt people. I’m all for hard riding but cmon dude, this is excessive. NOBODY likes to race you. YOU in particular, are hated by other riders. It’s not just dean. Ask JT, ask Christian Craig, ask literally anyone.

phillipmccavity wrote:

I genuinely want to see a racing incident where Vince Friese gets taking out savagely. I hope he races and the fellow racers make an agreement to...

I genuinely want to see a racing incident where Vince Friese gets taking out savagely. 
I hope he races and the fellow racers make an agreement to target him collectively. 
Fun to watch that. 

jemcee wrote: