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Tiki wrote:

14 Pages Later. Can someone Sum up this debacle? 

Deegan didn’t get money to race Aus X and is blaming the Lawrence’s for it.  he was never going to race it in the first place. 

He could choose to pay his own way and race but then he wouldn’t get to play the victim. 

Then a bunch of vitals finest arguing over who’s a bitch, Jett, haiden, or Anderson. 

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Tiki wrote:

14 Pages Later. Can someone Sum up this debacle? 

soggy wrote:
Deegan didn’t get money to race Aus X and is blaming the Lawrence’s for it.  he was never going to race it in the first place. He...

Deegan didn’t get money to race Aus X and is blaming the Lawrence’s for it.  he was never going to race it in the first place. 

He could choose to pay his own way and race but then he wouldn’t get to play the victim. 

Then a bunch of vitals finest arguing over who’s a bitch, Jett, haiden, or Anderson. 

Everyone in this thread is a bitch including me.

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Tiki wrote:

14 Pages Later. Can someone Sum up this debacle? 

soggy wrote:
Deegan didn’t get money to race Aus X and is blaming the Lawrence’s for it.  he was never going to race it in the first place. He...

Deegan didn’t get money to race Aus X and is blaming the Lawrence’s for it.  he was never going to race it in the first place. 

He could choose to pay his own way and race but then he wouldn’t get to play the victim. 

Then a bunch of vitals finest arguing over who’s a bitch, Jett, haiden, or Anderson. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Everyone in this thread is a bitch including me.

I see no lies. 

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11/22/2024 7:47am

15 pager, at this point why not? 

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Tiki wrote:

14 Pages Later. Can someone Sum up this debacle? 

It's the offseason from the series that really matters.

There's a race going on halfway around the world that doesn't mean diddly to anyone not from that particular place.

Meanwhile, back where the important racing happens the Deegan family, being marketing savvy, see an opportunity to stir the pot and let it "leak" that they were banned from a race that they never really were going to anyway.

Anderson stirs the pot more just for s**ts and giggles.

Half the population on Vital, and the YouTube MX community start clutching their pearls about a race that I'd be willing to bet at least some of them didn't even know was happening before this "controversy".

Say whatever you want about Haiden/Brian...They sure know how to direct the conversation to them.  I think it's hilarious.

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11/22/2024 8:25am

Is Rich Taylor allowed at AusX open?

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11/22/2024 8:57am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2024 8:57am
TeamGreen wrote:
So, let me get this straight…A dude in his 30s that’s still commanding a top level slot on one of the best factory teams is a...

So, let me get this straight…

A dude in his 30s that’s still commanding a top level slot on one of the best factory teams is a “loser”?

A Twenty Year Old Racer that’s caught on camera crying after getting a “Dude! Back the Fuck Off!” straightening out by the previously mentioned 30something racer…that crying-game dude is the tough guy?

You Can Not Make This Shit Up! 😂

Dear Lord, please make A1 happen…QUICKLY…please…? 

When Anderson yanked his helmet like he did, I say, jett got a free neck adjustment. 😂

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I think this is a chicken and egg scenario. If a guy is a known quantity, easy enough to work with, and still getting top ten...

I think this is a chicken and egg scenario. If a guy is a known quantity, easy enough to work with, and still getting top ten finishes, factories are going to keep signing that guy over the unproven guy unless the other guy is winning 250 championships. So younger 250 guys might be more successful than the Andersons of the world if given those opportunities, but they aren't getting those opportunities as long as Anderson type guys hang around and are signing multi year deals. 

Same thing is now happening at 250 level. No room to move up, so instead of taking a 450 deal at a support team you take a factory 250 deal, again..... no room for amateurs on the decent teams unless you're star and you sign 25 guys. 

Only way any of it changes is when guys retire or if guys without factory level support consistently beat factory guys, and that is not an easy task even if you are faster if all else is equal. 

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Was chase sexton that much better than the other top guys in the 250 class at the time? He got an opportunity and came into his...

Was chase sexton that much better than the other top guys in the 250 class at the time? He got an opportunity and came into his own in the 450 class. It doesn't seem like wallowing in the 250 class is good for rider/career development even with injuries, look at AC, Jmart, Justin Cooper got a bum deal when he moved up.

He won two 250 championships, so yes he's a good example of the point I'm making. Room for 250 champions to move up at the factory level, not much room for others.

I do think more guys should move up sooner, it's just a matter of them being willing to go from factory team to support team to do it, and not too many people want to do that for obvious reasons. Hopefully this gets better with new manufacturers coming in and teams like club closing the gap a little more all the time. 

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11/22/2024 10:09am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2024 10:10am

Is Rich Taylor allowed at AusX open?

Only if he first apologizes to the Lawrences for closing LACR

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11/22/2024 10:20am
yak651 wrote:

Not fair, he didn’t pull over for me and now the crowd is booing me!!

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He was a 20-year-old kid who wanted to win more than anything.  Meanwhile a 31-year-old geriatric who doesn't know when to call it a day was...

He was a 20-year-old kid who wanted to win more than anything.  Meanwhile a 31-year-old geriatric who doesn't know when to call it a day was holding him up.  Jett's response was pure frustration and emotion. 

20 year old man*, who learned the hard way through the court of public opinion that getting overwhelmed with frustration and emotion doesn’t justify grabbing someone...

20 year old man*, who learned the hard way through the court of public opinion that getting overwhelmed with frustration and emotion doesn’t justify grabbing someone by the helmet after a race.

Meanwhile, let’s bash the guy still racing near the front of the pack in his 30’s, in a sport where most of the modern greats hung it up by 27/28… are you a fan of the sport, or just a fan of a rider?

I'm a long time fan of the sport, however Ando,s actions were not "good sportsmanship" at times.

Regardless if Ando is fast or not, sportsmanship is a very fine rut, and I believe he deliberatly cross ruted a few times.

How far can this thread get derailed in 15 pages, luckily the original post was just bullshit.

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I'm a long time fan of the sport, however Ando,s actions were not "good sportsmanship" at times.Regardless if Ando is fast or not, sportsmanship is a...

I'm a long time fan of the sport, however Ando,s actions were not "good sportsmanship" at times.

Regardless if Ando is fast or not, sportsmanship is a very fine rut, and I believe he deliberatly cross ruted a few times.

How far can this thread get derailed in 15 pages, luckily the original post was just bullshit.

Was it though?

 

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Finished up about ten hours of phone calls/interviews, wrote story, doing fact checking. I'll have something posted in a couple hours...

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11/22/2024 10:53am
TeamGreen wrote:
So, let me get this straight…A dude in his 30s that’s still commanding a top level slot on one of the best factory teams is a...

So, let me get this straight…

A dude in his 30s that’s still commanding a top level slot on one of the best factory teams is a “loser”?

A Twenty Year Old Racer that’s caught on camera crying after getting a “Dude! Back the Fuck Off!” straightening out by the previously mentioned 30something racer…that crying-game dude is the tough guy?

You Can Not Make This Shit Up! 😂

Dear Lord, please make A1 happen…QUICKLY…please…? 

He's also a couple seasons removed from winning 7 SX races. It's not like it was that long ago. And if you want to discredit his wins as a lack of competition, then you discredit Tomac's '22 SX title. Ando is still a top guy. Jett is also just that good that he handled him last season. The funniest part of all this teenage drama is Ando throwing his own bait out there from left field. He's got a great sense of humor

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11/22/2024 11:27am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2024 11:30am

When Anderson yanked his helmet like he did, I say, jett got a free neck adjustment. 😂

I think he got a free attitude adjustment as well. 😉

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11/22/2024 12:18pm
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I think he got a free attitude adjustment as well. 😉

I think he got a free attitude adjustment as well. 😉

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Yep

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11/22/2024 12:59pm

This thread has made my week 😂

I'm here for it.

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20 year old man*, who learned the hard way through the court of public opinion that getting overwhelmed with frustration and emotion doesn’t justify grabbing someone...

20 year old man*, who learned the hard way through the court of public opinion that getting overwhelmed with frustration and emotion doesn’t justify grabbing someone by the helmet after a race.

Meanwhile, let’s bash the guy still racing near the front of the pack in his 30’s, in a sport where most of the modern greats hung it up by 27/28… are you a fan of the sport, or just a fan of a rider?

So you can’t be a fan of the sport if you don’t care for the Anderson, Barcia, Friese and Bowers type of riders that put in more effort in creating enemies on the track than going as fast as they can?. 

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11/22/2024 1:33pm

JT$ clarifies a few things on the Industry Seating podcast. Basically confirms that the Lawrence’s did not want Deegan there, and the promoters went along with it. 
 

 

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So you can’t be a fan of the sport if you don’t care for the Anderson, Barcia, Friese and Bowers type of riders that put in...

So you can’t be a fan of the sport if you don’t care for the Anderson, Barcia, Friese and Bowers type of riders that put in more effort in creating enemies on the track than going as fast as they can?. 

You're right....Anderson put in so little effort to going as fast as he can that he won a 450 Supercross Title.....you know, the biggest and most important title in dirt bike racing?  

Maybe you aren't familiar with Supercross?  But it's the title that pretty much every legit rider to race MXGP does everything they can to get a chance to come win....as a matter of fact, the 2 time defending MXGP champ just said "fuck this joke" and is now here trying to win that title as well.  I'm sure you've at least heard of it.

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11/22/2024 1:40pm

Mrs Reed adding some fuel to the fire 

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LungButter wrote:
You're right....Anderson put in so little effort to going as fast as he can that he won a 450 Supercross Title.....you know, the biggest and most...

You're right....Anderson put in so little effort to going as fast as he can that he won a 450 Supercross Title.....you know, the biggest and most important title in dirt bike racing?  

Maybe you aren't familiar with Supercross?  But it's the title that pretty much every legit rider to race MXGP does everything they can to get a chance to come win....as a matter of fact, the 2 time defending MXGP champ just said "fuck this joke" and is now here trying to win that title as well.  I'm sure you've at least heard of it.

Good example that it’s 6 years ago now and what have he done since then?, more than fucking up his own races creating drama on track with different riders?. 

Him being a past champion almost makes it more sad when you see what he has become as a racer since then.

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Mrs Reed adding some fuel to the fire 

Mrs Reed adding some fuel to the fire 

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Watch the Aussies turn on the only rider that kept their country relevant for 20 years because he made their golden boy look bad

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11/22/2024 2:13pm
Tumic wrote:
Good example that it’s 6 years ago now and what have he done since then?, more than fucking up his own races creating drama on track...

Good example that it’s 6 years ago now and what have he done since then?, more than fucking up his own races creating drama on track with different riders?. 

Him being a past champion almost makes it more sad when you see what he has become as a racer since then.

To be fair man, all that sticks out for me from this year is when he was LAPPING little Hunter and the golden boy went out of his way to fuck with someone on the lead lap.

Remember that?

Do you hate Hunter too?

I mean Ando has pulled some moves in his career but I don't think any of them were as low class as being a lapper and fucking with someone on the lead lap.

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11/22/2024 2:14pm

The real loser's are the fans. They had a chance to watch the best rider in the world. Thanks to the Lawrence cult, it won't happen.

Sounds like Razzle is playing you guys, just a couple of blokes giving it a crack my ass.

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Love it.... 

Deegan leaks the story because he got his feelings hurt and in the end the real story was the Lawrence's made a wise business decision. There was nothing to be gained from the business side by having Deegan there and it would have decreased their take on the back end. Add in the personal drama, and nobody is signing off on that deal. Meanwhile it makes even more of a mockery of the Deegan MXON excuses. 

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