MXGP Rumours/Silly season

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10/7/2024 3:37am
Motofinne wrote:

You think so? I would not be surprised if Jonass is riding for pennies and relies on own sponsors at this point in his career.

He's a former world champion, i was just going off of that...

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10/7/2024 3:44am
Motofinne wrote:

You think so? I would not be surprised if Jonass is riding for pennies and relies on own sponsors at this point in his career.

Snapper wrote:

He's a former world champion, i was just going off of that...

Yeah, i would hope that he could demand a good salary. But with the GPs being in the state that it is in at the moment, i would not be surprised if the second Kawasaki ride is a low-salary ride.

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10/7/2024 3:46am
Snapper wrote:

Jonass is 27, 28 in January, and I would imagine, a lot more expensive than Webster.

Weird choice, then...

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10/7/2024 4:08am
Snapper wrote:

Jonass is 27, 28 in January, and I would imagine, a lot more expensive than Webster.

Weird choice, then...

Jonass was 5th overall in points, just 25 points behind Herlings after the 7th GP this year. Then he got hurt in Germany and was out for the season. 

Imo he is a very good number 2 rider for a factory team.

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10/7/2024 7:07am
Motofinne wrote:

You think so? I would not be surprised if Jonass is riding for pennies and relies on own sponsors at this point in his career.

Snapper wrote:

He's a former world champion, i was just going off of that...

Motofinne wrote:
Yeah, i would hope that he could demand a good salary. But with the GPs being in the state that it is in at the moment...

Yeah, i would hope that he could demand a good salary. But with the GPs being in the state that it is in at the moment, i would not be surprised if the second Kawasaki ride is a low-salary ride.

Both current KRT riders make at least a Million euro's per year. Also the staff at KRT is paid very well, money isn't the issue there.

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10/7/2024 9:03am
rym wrote:
Jonass was 5th overall in points, just 25 points behind Herlings after the 7th GP this year. Then he got hurt in Germany and was out...

Jonass was 5th overall in points, just 25 points behind Herlings after the 7th GP this year. Then he got hurt in Germany and was out for the season. 

Imo he is a very good number 2 rider for a factory team.

My comment ("weird choice") was about the age question.

Jonass is a good choice for team KRT.

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10/7/2024 11:47pm
Snapper wrote:

He's a former world champion, i was just going off of that...

Motofinne wrote:
Yeah, i would hope that he could demand a good salary. But with the GPs being in the state that it is in at the moment...

Yeah, i would hope that he could demand a good salary. But with the GPs being in the state that it is in at the moment, i would not be surprised if the second Kawasaki ride is a low-salary ride.

Rocketship wrote:

Both current KRT riders make at least a Million euro's per year. Also the staff at KRT is paid very well, money isn't the issue there.

Febvre, maybe. Jonass, that is quite a stretch. Maybe combined they'll make it. From what I understood from some people in the paddock, a rider of the caliber like Jonass makes 250-350k a year (base salary, not personal sponsors). A rider like Febvre 700k+. Don't pin me down on this, though 🤣

Or do you mean Seewer at the moment? Then you could be right, I remember Lewis sharing that he was the biggest free agent last year

 

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10/8/2024 2:55am

i read it as Seewer, which would make sense imo.

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10/8/2024 10:36am

Big bummer Standing is going away and another 2 solid rides are being lost.

Man, Standing got screwed over a few times during their career as a team and could/should have a different outcome. 

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10/8/2024 10:47am
JH comments after last round. I would take the 1st plane tomorrow and do the same thing. At MXON interview with GB and TS100 he mentioned...

JH comments after last round. I would take the 1st plane tomorrow and do the same thing. At MXON interview with GB and TS100 he mentioned look at this track (Matterley) compared to the last round of gp in Spain. Got to say even the riders are speaking out now at the quality of GP’s. Been really poor for years been saying it’s going down hill and this year I didn’t watch a single race. 

You have link to that mxon interview?? Thanks

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10/8/2024 11:49am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

damn... love Tim. Genuinely one of the only TP's / Owner's I have any respect for in this sport. Massively genuine dude (least from any dialog I've had with him). 

Definitely has been one of the most energetic 250 programs in recent memory. That Guillod, Lieber & Tonkov micro-era was awesome. That being said - miss tf out of Julien Lieber haha hope that guy is doing well. Anyways, congrats to everything that crew achieved. Massive respect. 

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10/8/2024 12:01pm

Not good for the sport that teams like f&h and Standing are leaving. 

It is also a shame that the guys between Diga, f&h, standing etc are not open to do it just 1 step smaller and stay in the sport. I guess it comes with being a succesfull businessman that they only want the best with their team as well.

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10/8/2024 12:26pm
JH comments after last round. I would take the 1st plane tomorrow and do the same thing. At MXON interview with GB and TS100 he mentioned...

JH comments after last round. I would take the 1st plane tomorrow and do the same thing. At MXON interview with GB and TS100 he mentioned look at this track (Matterley) compared to the last round of gp in Spain. Got to say even the riders are speaking out now at the quality of GP’s. Been really poor for years been saying it’s going down hill and this year I didn’t watch a single race. 

Dirt_Dawg wrote:

You have link to that mxon interview?? Thanks

JH comments were on vurb moto. TS 100 and team GB I saw on MXGP instagram 

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rym wrote:
Not good for the sport that teams like f&h and Standing are leaving. It is also a shame that the guys between Diga, f&h, standing etc are...

Not good for the sport that teams like f&h and Standing are leaving. 

It is also a shame that the guys between Diga, f&h, standing etc are not open to do it just 1 step smaller and stay in the sport. I guess it comes with being a succesfull businessman that they only want the best with their team as well.

FH will be back in 2026!

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10/9/2024 1:03am

Josh GIlbert will race all European GP rounds for Lexa MX Racing Team.

Adam Sterry will race all European GP rounds for Chambers Racing, Ollie Colmer the full EMX250- season.

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10/9/2024 1:15am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2024 1:15am

Would love to see Triumph retain Haarup, who has performed so well for them this year, on the 450. Ride '25 as a development year in a national series and some GPs, much like Ducati has done this year.

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10/9/2024 1:36am

Lucas Coenen to Red Bull KTM in MXGP-class has just been confirmed.

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10/9/2024 1:43am
DeStouwer wrote:

Lucas Coenen to Red Bull KTM in MXGP-class has just been confirmed.

Curious what De Wolf will do now Coenen steps up...

Is it a possibility that Herlings joins De Carli as well, or will they operate as 2 'separate' teams as in the past with Cairoli and Prado?
 

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10/9/2024 2:21am

Coenen moving up without mx2 title, one year in mxgp and then jump to AMA sounds unreal. 

Where this will leave Herlings for next year? With Adamo and Langerfelder at another KTM team? 

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DeStouwer wrote:
Josh GIlbert will race all European GP rounds for Lexa MX Racing Team.Adam Sterry will race all European GP rounds for Chambers Racing, Ollie Colmer the...

Josh GIlbert will race all European GP rounds for Lexa MX Racing Team.

Adam Sterry will race all European GP rounds for Chambers Racing, Ollie Colmer the full EMX250- season.

What is Lexa? They are building a massive workshop according to their socials & doing MXGP from Britain so that's quite an effort.

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10/9/2024 4:22am
tek14 wrote:
Coenen moving up without mx2 title, one year in mxgp and then jump to AMA sounds unreal. Where this will leave Herlings for next year? With Adamo...

Coenen moving up without mx2 title, one year in mxgp and then jump to AMA sounds unreal. 

Where this will leave Herlings for next year? With Adamo and Langerfelder at another KTM team? 

It's been done before (but in a different way, nonetheless). Desalle started in the 2006 MX1-championship as a 16 year old (he became 17 during the season, in May). He never even raced MX2 on the highest level. So it's not new, and Coenen is more talented as Desalle was.

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10/9/2024 4:36am Edited Date/Time 10/9/2024 4:36am

Lucas's decision to move up makes no sense to me. He is still super young and looking at his performance resume of last year, clearly has some maturity still to gain. Nobody's questioning the raw speed, but his ability to know when to push and when to hold back still needs refining. And the 450 is not exactly the most forgiving machine on the planet. If he doesn't change his trajectory, he could end up with a career similar to JH84 or JS7. Not that they were bad career, but could have been much more.

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10/9/2024 4:40am
DeStouwer wrote:

Lucas Coenen to Red Bull KTM in MXGP-class has just been confirmed.

MitchMX wrote:
Curious what De Wolf will do now Coenen steps up...Is it a possibility that Herlings joins De Carli as well, or will they operate as 2...

Curious what De Wolf will do now Coenen steps up...

Is it a possibility that Herlings joins De Carli as well, or will they operate as 2 'separate' teams as in the past with Cairoli and Prado?
 

De Wolf just posted a reel on IG of him practicing an SX-type track in I believe France. 

Not implying anything here but… 

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10/9/2024 4:41am
dirtcan wrote:
Lucas's decision to move up makes no sense to me. He is still super young and looking at his performance resume of last year, clearly has...

Lucas's decision to move up makes no sense to me. He is still super young and looking at his performance resume of last year, clearly has some maturity still to gain. Nobody's questioning the raw speed, but his ability to know when to push and when to hold back still needs refining. And the 450 is not exactly the most forgiving machine on the planet. If he doesn't change his trajectory, he could end up with a career similar to JH84 or JS7. Not that they were bad career, but could have been much more.

Agree,but meanwhile JH84 stays at same ktm team and not under De Carli truck?

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10/9/2024 4:45am
DeStouwer wrote:

Lucas Coenen to Red Bull KTM in MXGP-class has just been confirmed.

MitchMX wrote:
Curious what De Wolf will do now Coenen steps up...Is it a possibility that Herlings joins De Carli as well, or will they operate as 2...

Curious what De Wolf will do now Coenen steps up...

Is it a possibility that Herlings joins De Carli as well, or will they operate as 2 'separate' teams as in the past with Cairoli and Prado?
 

Aryen wrote:

De Wolf just posted a reel on IG of him practicing an SX-type track in I believe France. 

Not implying anything here but… 

and he will race on the 450 at the dutch season end race in Valkenswaard. 

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10/9/2024 4:50am
dirtcan wrote:
Lucas's decision to move up makes no sense to me. He is still super young and looking at his performance resume of last year, clearly has...

Lucas's decision to move up makes no sense to me. He is still super young and looking at his performance resume of last year, clearly has some maturity still to gain. Nobody's questioning the raw speed, but his ability to know when to push and when to hold back still needs refining. And the 450 is not exactly the most forgiving machine on the planet. If he doesn't change his trajectory, he could end up with a career similar to JH84 or JS7. Not that they were bad career, but could have been much more.

M.B. wrote:

Agree,but meanwhile JH84 stays at same ktm team and not under De Carli truck?

Coenen’s and Langenfelder KTM de Carli Factory

Herlings, Rossi and Adamo KTM Factory 

De Wolf and Everts Nestaan Husqvarna (heard something about Everts don’t want be under one awning with Adamo)

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10/9/2024 4:50am

So, no MXGP rider at Husky?

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10/9/2024 4:52am
DeStouwer wrote:
Josh GIlbert will race all European GP rounds for Lexa MX Racing Team.Adam Sterry will race all European GP rounds for Chambers Racing, Ollie Colmer the...

Josh GIlbert will race all European GP rounds for Lexa MX Racing Team.

Adam Sterry will race all European GP rounds for Chambers Racing, Ollie Colmer the full EMX250- season.

rym wrote:

What is Lexa? They are building a massive workshop according to their socials & doing MXGP from Britain so that's quite an effort.

It’s an interior designer firm based in South East London. Apparently the guy that owns it is minted. 

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10/9/2024 4:52am
Cortami79 wrote:

So, no MXGP rider at Husky?

I think Kay will move up...

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