Replace SMX 3-race series with a Trans AMA/MXGP 3-race series?

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Was great seeing the AMA and MXGP racers in the MXoN together, would be cool to see a throw back to the old Trans AMA series started again with a 3 race format at a few select US tracks instead of the SMX series for qualifying AMA & MXGP racers. Could tie-in points and $ in for both series. Would be good exposure for each organization and fans and help grow MX worldwide. Maybe add in a Vet MX championship series too? IMG 0309 1…🙃

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There was a rumor that the 2 series were trying to work out a race or 2 that was part of both series.  

Everyone knows it would be massive for both series.  They have to agree on a lot of things, a lot of things that don’t really line up.  Money, rules, race format, days, etc…

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10/7/2024 7:54pm

If we can get something like Race 3 more than every year, or even regardless of that, yes, we need an mxgp+ama outdoor series. Top 20 here vs top 20 there.

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Every real fan would prefere that over the over-hyped SMX races. 

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10/8/2024 6:37am
Joko wrote:
Was great seeing the AMA and MXGP racers in the MXoN together, would be cool to see a throw back to the old Trans AMA series...

Was great seeing the AMA and MXGP racers in the MXoN together, would be cool to see a throw back to the old Trans AMA series started again with a 3 race format at a few select US tracks instead of the SMX series for qualifying AMA & MXGP racers. Could tie-in points and $ in for both series. Would be good exposure for each organization and fans and help grow MX worldwide. Maybe add in a Vet MX championship series too? IMG 0309 1…🙃

Absolutely fantastic idea. They'd have to MASSIVELY upgrade the current state of SMX tracks. 

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Can you imagine 3 races in the fall Glen Helen, Red Bud and Milleville. 

The World vs  USA 1 million to the winner in the 450 class !!!!!!

 

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mb60 wrote:
Can you imagine 3 races in the fall Glen Helen, Red Bud and Milleville. The World vs  USA 1 million to the winner in the 450 class...

Can you imagine 3 races in the fall Glen Helen, Red Bud and Milleville. 

The World vs  USA 1 million to the winner in the 450 class !!!!!!

 

Add a 125 emx class The world and the riders want to know . Who is the fastest 125 rider.  I,m sure Mike Brown would be there.  Millville weather this weekend and sunset ridge this weekend. Burr 44 sat night at Millville high of 59 Sunday, iL. 1 degree warmer. 

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10/8/2024 7:27am

Love the idea. 

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I like idea,but not all 3 rounds or not every year everything should happen in america

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M.B. wrote:

I like idea,but not all 3 rounds or not every year everything should happen in america

But only in warm states.  Tracks in the UP get super fast Canadians , 12 hr drive riders from IL.  And Wi. Sand riders.  Oct in the morning you would hv frost on your bike or snow threatening 

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mb60 wrote:
Can you imagine 3 races in the fall Glen Helen, Red Bud and Milleville. The World vs  USA 1 million to the winner in the 450 class...

Can you imagine 3 races in the fall Glen Helen, Red Bud and Milleville. 

The World vs  USA 1 million to the winner in the 450 class !!!!!!

 

Are you from Minnesota?  Clearly Thunder Valley should be the third location!

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mb60 wrote:
Can you imagine 3 races in the fall Glen Helen, Red Bud and Milleville. The World vs  USA 1 million to the winner in the 450 class...

Can you imagine 3 races in the fall Glen Helen, Red Bud and Milleville. 

The World vs  USA 1 million to the winner in the 450 class !!!!!!

 

Shred wrote:

Are you from Minnesota?  Clearly Thunder Valley should be the third location!

Texas and would love to see a round at Swan Mx as well. 

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Tumic wrote:

Every real fan would prefere that over the over-hyped SMX races. 

You're probably not wrong, but it's not gonna happen.

SMX exists because NBC wanted it to and they are putting up the money for it.  They wanted a "playoff" to end the US racing season with and to connect the two US Series.  They couldn't care less about bringing over some MXGP guys for 3 races that most US fans don't have a clue about and who haven't been racing here all year.

*Before I get attacked by the MXGP lovers, this is not meant to be a dig on MXGP

 

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I'm all for a AMA/MXGP combined GP/National but not in the place of the SMX series. The races would need to actually run in the summer in both America and Europe so that we don't not end up with three mud races. Not sure how they work out the points but what an epic event/events they would be! 

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mb60 wrote:
Can you imagine 3 races in the fall Glen Helen, Red Bud and Milleville. The World vs  USA 1 million to the winner in the 450 class...

Can you imagine 3 races in the fall Glen Helen, Red Bud and Milleville. 

The World vs  USA 1 million to the winner in the 450 class !!!!!!

 

Shred wrote:

Are you from Minnesota?  Clearly Thunder Valley should be the third location!

Ironman over both of them. 

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You're probably not wrong, but it's not gonna happen.SMX exists because NBC wanted it to and they are putting up the money for it.  They wanted...

You're probably not wrong, but it's not gonna happen.

SMX exists because NBC wanted it to and they are putting up the money for it.  They wanted a "playoff" to end the US racing season with and to connect the two US Series.  They couldn't care less about bringing over some MXGP guys for 3 races that most US fans don't have a clue about and who haven't been racing here all year.

*Before I get attacked by the MXGP lovers, this is not meant to be a dig on MXGP

 

SMX excist as a counter-react to WSX, nothing else. Then that they had to go to NBC to get the founding for it is another thing.

And there you have another problem. If every real mx fan would prefere this over the super-duper clown show, and most of the mx fans are just real fans. The sport is so niced that it’s rare to see casual fans around it.

So why not give the paying fans what they want?. It would be a light version of Des Nations and i guess that you have noticed that the interest around that event is pretty big on both sides of the atlantic sea.

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SMX excist as a counter-react to WSX, nothing else. Then that they had to go to NBC to get the founding for it is another thing.And...

SMX excist as a counter-react to WSX, nothing else. Then that they had to go to NBC to get the founding for it is another thing.

And there you have another problem. If every real mx fan would prefere this over the super-duper clown show, and most of the mx fans are just real fans. The sport is so niced that it’s rare to see casual fans around it.

So why not give the paying fans what they want?. It would be a light version of Des Nations and i guess that you have noticed that the interest around that event is pretty big on both sides of the atlantic sea.

Your whole first line is your opinion, not fact.  Just because you are very emotionally invested in that opinion does not make it fact.

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10/8/2024 11:44am
Tumic wrote:

Every real fan would prefere that over the over-hyped SMX races. 

LungButter wrote:
You're probably not wrong, but it's not gonna happen.SMX exists because NBC wanted it to and they are putting up the money for it.  They wanted...

You're probably not wrong, but it's not gonna happen.

SMX exists because NBC wanted it to and they are putting up the money for it.  They wanted a "playoff" to end the US racing season with and to connect the two US Series.  They couldn't care less about bringing over some MXGP guys for 3 races that most US fans don't have a clue about and who haven't been racing here all year.

*Before I get attacked by the MXGP lovers, this is not meant to be a dig on MXGP

 

I'd argue if you don't know Gajser, Prado and Herlings you're not a fan

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I'd argue if you don't know Gajser, Prado and Herlings you're not a fan

Fair enough, I don't disagree.

Can you name 17 more MXGP racers that are known by US fans?

Actually, are there even 17 more MXGP racers?  Seems like a lot of the highlights I saw they barely had 20 riders on the gate.

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LungButter wrote:

Your whole first line is your opinion, not fact.  Just because you are very emotionally invested in that opinion does not make it fact.

Go ahead and prove me wrong. What came first and what was created after?… 

I don’t know if you should be the one to talk about being emotionally invested in something since you take every chance you get to crap at the GP’s.

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10/8/2024 12:17pm Edited Date/Time 10/8/2024 12:21pm
Tumic wrote:
Go ahead and prove me wrong. What came first and what was created after?… I don’t know if you should be the one to talk about being...

Go ahead and prove me wrong. What came first and what was created after?… 

I don’t know if you should be the one to talk about being emotionally invested in something since you take every chance you get to crap at the GP’s.

The forming of SMX has been discussed 1,000 times.  I find it hard to believe that you haven't seen it, if you choose to not believe it and call those folks liars then I can't help you and you are entitled to your opinion.  But just because something is your opinion, doesn't mean it's fact.

 

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10/8/2024 12:26pm

I'd argue if you don't know Gajser, Prado and Herlings you're not a fan

LungButter wrote:
Fair enough, I don't disagree.Can you name 17 more MXGP racers that are known by US fans?Actually, are there even 17 more MXGP racers?  Seems like...

Fair enough, I don't disagree.

Can you name 17 more MXGP racers that are known by US fans?

Actually, are there even 17 more MXGP racers?  Seems like a lot of the highlights I saw they barely had 20 riders on the gate.

Does the average US fan know the bottom 20 in the series either? You just don't like the GPs and take any chance you get to talk down on them

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Unadilla grass track in the fall

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Unadilla grass track in the fall

Time for Monster Mountain to get a round also.

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Tumic wrote:
Go ahead and prove me wrong. What came first and what was created after?… I don’t know if you should be the one to talk about being...

Go ahead and prove me wrong. What came first and what was created after?… 

I don’t know if you should be the one to talk about being emotionally invested in something since you take every chance you get to crap at the GP’s.

Your entitled to have an opinion, even if it’s most likely wrong. No one has to waste their time trying to convince you differently.

The truth is there are probably only about 3-5 people that were there for the entire thing and know exactly how it went and none of them are posting in this thread. 

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10/8/2024 2:04pm

SMX style races for a 3-5 race WORLD Series would be a big mistake. You'd have to do 2 MX and 1 Hybrid. Or 3 MX, 1 Hybrid, & 1 SX. Either way it will never happen. Unless both series agreed to cut their season's short 3 rounds and then start the World des Nations Shootout.

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I vote we just kill supercross and expand outdoors but that ain’t happening. 

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LungButter wrote:

Your whole first line is your opinion, not fact.  Just because you are very emotionally invested in that opinion does not make it fact.

Tumic wrote:
Go ahead and prove me wrong. What came first and what was created after?… I don’t know if you should be the one to talk about being...

Go ahead and prove me wrong. What came first and what was created after?… 

I don’t know if you should be the one to talk about being emotionally invested in something since you take every chance you get to crap at the GP’s.

June, 2021 - Feld announces it has separated from the FIM, aligning series sanctioning with AMA Pro Motocross.

November, 2021 - AMA Pro Motocross announces its 2022 schedule with a very curious 12th round (Pala 2, later fodder for SMX). 

December, 2021 - The FIM announces a successor has been found for the FIM world supercross championship.

March, 2022 - SX Global announces initial details and plans for WSX.

WSX was rushed to market in 2022 while SMX had to wait for the broadcast media rights of Feld and MX Sports to align after the 2022 season.

 

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10/8/2024 4:48pm Edited Date/Time 10/8/2024 4:50pm
LungButter wrote:
You're probably not wrong, but it's not gonna happen.SMX exists because NBC wanted it to and they are putting up the money for it.  They wanted...

You're probably not wrong, but it's not gonna happen.

SMX exists because NBC wanted it to and they are putting up the money for it.  They wanted a "playoff" to end the US racing season with and to connect the two US Series.  They couldn't care less about bringing over some MXGP guys for 3 races that most US fans don't have a clue about and who haven't been racing here all year.

*Before I get attacked by the MXGP lovers, this is not meant to be a dig on MXGP

 

Tumic wrote:
SMX excist as a counter-react to WSX, nothing else. Then that they had to go to NBC to get the founding for it is another thing.And...

SMX excist as a counter-react to WSX, nothing else. Then that they had to go to NBC to get the founding for it is another thing.

And there you have another problem. If every real mx fan would prefere this over the super-duper clown show, and most of the mx fans are just real fans. The sport is so niced that it’s rare to see casual fans around it.

So why not give the paying fans what they want?. It would be a light version of Des Nations and i guess that you have noticed that the interest around that event is pretty big on both sides of the atlantic sea.

nah brotha u got it all wrong , we only have the SMX playoffs because of wht NBC wanted & they footing the bill for it , where u think all this extra money coming from 🤔 which is why i personally said a while ago im not valuing the SMX title as much as the regular SX & MX title because let’s just say we lose this NBC deal , are we still goona have this SMX playoffs series around 🤔 my answer was no , but ur wrong brotha , this has nothing to do with WSX at all , yal gotta do research instead of making emotional opinions on some he say she say internet shit 

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10/8/2024 5:16pm Edited Date/Time 10/8/2024 5:17pm
gantry25 wrote:
I'm all for a AMA/MXGP combined GP/National but not in the place of the SMX series. The races would need to actually run in the summer...

I'm all for a AMA/MXGP combined GP/National but not in the place of the SMX series. The races would need to actually run in the summer in both America and Europe so that we don't not end up with three mud races. Not sure how they work out the points but what an epic event/events they would be! 

I think they could realistically adjust the GP schedule to start in early February and end in late August, then do the "World SMX" Playoffs in September. The only thing I see as a potential headache is figuring out the qualifying points differential for the GP guys since they have fewer rounds. I would also think the FIM would want at least one round to be in Europe/overseas as a condition of their guys participating. 

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