Herlings' hot take

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9/29/2024 6:39pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2024 6:44pm

People on this forum act like money is the only motivation people have

…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck is involved

He’s proud of it too. 

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9/29/2024 9:58pm

People on this forum act like money is the only motivation people have

Brent wrote:
…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck...

…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck is involved

He’s proud of it too. 

Herlings has more money than anyone needs. If money was his motivation, he’d be retired. He clearly loves racing his dirt bike which is why he keeps doing it. Love him or hate him, as a fan of the sport I think you have to realize he adds a whole lot to it

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Just skip SX and kick ass in outdoors. I think he would seriously consider. He has nothing to prove in MXGP. 

Right. And monetarily, at this point in his career, he could skip the big money from sx. If he really wanted to give the Nationals a...

Right. And monetarily, at this point in his career, he could skip the big money from sx. If he really wanted to give the Nationals a go, you would hope KTM would give him an mx only contract. Kinda day dreaming here but it's not the most ridiculous premise. I just thought it but has he been on a KTM his entire racing career?

Correct, he was on Suzuki when he rode 85’s but KTM from then on I believe. 

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Brent wrote:
...maybe if Jeffery didn't do every off-weekend money race, he would be more rested,  and could have maybe  gone beast mode more often to pass Prado...

...maybe if Jeffery didn't do every off-weekend money race, he would be more rested,  and could have maybe  gone beast mode more often to pass Prado and Gajser?

I don't understand the dude,  he has more than enough money and yet he burns himself out racing every weekend for a few euros...

There’s no such thing as a dutch person and feeling they have money enough. 

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People on this forum act like money is the only motivation people have

Brent wrote:
…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck...

…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck is involved

He’s proud of it too. 

I think its both. The guy simply loves to ride. And he absolutely loves money.

But i dont think racing in the non gp weekends cost him the world title. He simply wasnt good enough in the 1st half of the season. 

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People on this forum act like money is the only motivation people have

Brent wrote:
…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck...

…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck is involved

He’s proud of it too. 

rym wrote:
I think its both. The guy simply loves to ride. And he absolutely loves money.But i dont think racing in the non gp weekends cost him...

I think its both. The guy simply loves to ride. And he absolutely loves money.

But i dont think racing in the non gp weekends cost him the world title. He simply wasnt good enough in the 1st half of the season. 

Racing on off weekends is a big reason why he got back to the level that he did in the second half of the season. He was injured in the offseason, came in way behind Prado and Gajser in terms of preparation, it would have been extremely difficult to catch them up if he was only doing the same races as them. He needed the gate drops 

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Brent wrote:
…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck...

…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck is involved

He’s proud of it too. 

rym wrote:
I think its both. The guy simply loves to ride. And he absolutely loves money.But i dont think racing in the non gp weekends cost him...

I think its both. The guy simply loves to ride. And he absolutely loves money.

But i dont think racing in the non gp weekends cost him the world title. He simply wasnt good enough in the 1st half of the season. 

RG437 wrote:
Racing on off weekends is a big reason why he got back to the level that he did in the second half of the season. He...

Racing on off weekends is a big reason why he got back to the level that he did in the second half of the season. He was injured in the offseason, came in way behind Prado and Gajser in terms of preparation, it would have been extremely difficult to catch them up if he was only doing the same races as them. He needed the gate drops 

/\ This.

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9/30/2024 7:36am
Brent wrote:
...maybe if Jeffery didn't do every off-weekend money race, he would be more rested,  and could have maybe  gone beast mode more often to pass Prado...

...maybe if Jeffery didn't do every off-weekend money race, he would be more rested,  and could have maybe  gone beast mode more often to pass Prado and Gajser?

I don't understand the dude,  he has more than enough money and yet he burns himself out racing every weekend for a few euros...

Dirt bike racer enjoys racing his dirt bike for money. Shocking. 

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9/30/2024 7:59am Edited Date/Time 9/30/2024 8:05am
Aryen wrote:

Correct, he was on Suzuki when he rode 85’s but KTM from then on I believe. 

Yep his winning 85 is on display at Laurense motors in Boekel - he also has one at his new house.

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MXGP has some work to do, big changes are needed in that series. The real question is, are they willing to do it or are they even worried about the current state?

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I think Herlings could get the hang of an SMX style track, I'd love it if he did the nationals and SMX one year. Best case scenario/silver lining if a US KTM rider gets hurt and Herlings has an early season injury?

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If Jeffrey or Tim started riding SX in the next few weeks they would be solidly in the game come A1. New bike aside, we’ll see how Jorge does since he got a few under his belt. 

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9/30/2024 11:16am
PRM31 wrote:
If Jeffrey or Tim started riding SX in the next few weeks they would be solidly in the game come A1. New bike aside, we’ll see...

If Jeffrey or Tim started riding SX in the next few weeks they would be solidly in the game come A1. New bike aside, we’ll see how Jorge does since he got a few under his belt. 

I just recently watched some old clips of SMX CUP they did a few yrs ago & watching tim ride and race tht track he do got a style tht would translate over to SX with a yr or 2 of preparation 

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stewie94 wrote:
I just recently watched some old clips of SMX CUP they did a few yrs ago & watching tim ride and race tht track he do...

I just recently watched some old clips of SMX CUP they did a few yrs ago & watching tim ride and race tht track he do got a style tht would translate over to SX with a yr or 2 of preparation 

There is clips of him riding sx on a 250f on youtube to. 

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9/30/2024 11:47am
Brent wrote:
…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck...

…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck is involved

He’s proud of it too. 

rym wrote:
I think its both. The guy simply loves to ride. And he absolutely loves money.But i dont think racing in the non gp weekends cost him...

I think its both. The guy simply loves to ride. And he absolutely loves money.

But i dont think racing in the non gp weekends cost him the world title. He simply wasnt good enough in the 1st half of the season. 

RG437 wrote:
Racing on off weekends is a big reason why he got back to the level that he did in the second half of the season. He...

Racing on off weekends is a big reason why he got back to the level that he did in the second half of the season. He was injured in the offseason, came in way behind Prado and Gajser in terms of preparation, it would have been extremely difficult to catch them up if he was only doing the same races as them. He needed the gate drops 

Absolutely! Taking “real” gate drops…
Having to attack the 1st turn and pass other riders in real race conditions…

It’s the best training opportunity/opportunities available to him. The dude ain’t stupid.

As for his commentary on MXGP v The Nationals? If there was ever a great time for him to get his mojo back…it’s now. Go into 2025 & fight for another title & then come over here in 2026. 

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9/30/2024 12:26pm
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He is just bitching, he ain’t going anywhere. 

Maybe he's referring to other riders leaving.

9/30/2024 2:16pm
PRM31 wrote:
If Jeffrey or Tim started riding SX in the next few weeks they would be solidly in the game come A1. New bike aside, we’ll see...

If Jeffrey or Tim started riding SX in the next few weeks they would be solidly in the game come A1. New bike aside, we’ll see how Jorge does since he got a few under his belt. 

stewie94 wrote:
I just recently watched some old clips of SMX CUP they did a few yrs ago & watching tim ride and race tht track he do...

I just recently watched some old clips of SMX CUP they did a few yrs ago & watching tim ride and race tht track he do got a style tht would translate over to SX with a yr or 2 of preparation 

I'm not sure if I agree with that even with Gaiser and Herlings being some of the most talented riders on the planet. Supercross is a massive learning curve especially for guys reaching 30 yrs old!! But let's say you are correct, and maybe you are and I'm over thinking how difficult it is to be competitive in SX. I don't think the MXGP guys in their late 20's/30 can afford or willing to take on a two-year learning curve 

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9/30/2024 3:02pm
PRM31 wrote:
If Jeffrey or Tim started riding SX in the next few weeks they would be solidly in the game come A1. New bike aside, we’ll see...

If Jeffrey or Tim started riding SX in the next few weeks they would be solidly in the game come A1. New bike aside, we’ll see how Jorge does since he got a few under his belt. 

stewie94 wrote:
I just recently watched some old clips of SMX CUP they did a few yrs ago & watching tim ride and race tht track he do...

I just recently watched some old clips of SMX CUP they did a few yrs ago & watching tim ride and race tht track he do got a style tht would translate over to SX with a yr or 2 of preparation 

I'm not sure if I agree with that even with Gaiser and Herlings being some of the most talented riders on the planet. Supercross is a...

I'm not sure if I agree with that even with Gaiser and Herlings being some of the most talented riders on the planet. Supercross is a massive learning curve especially for guys reaching 30 yrs old!! But let's say you are correct, and maybe you are and I'm over thinking how difficult it is to be competitive in SX. I don't think the MXGP guys in their late 20's/30 can afford or willing to take on a two-year learning curve 

I’m saying in a general aspect , from wht we seen so far with Tim’s style vs Jeffery’s style on tht type of track , Tim would adapt faster & be more successful than Jeffery 

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9/30/2024 5:17pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2024 5:38pm

Jorge was 10-13 on his short visit. I’m not suggesting they would come over and win (mud excepted), but top 10s would not be unreasonable in the first half of the season.

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9/30/2024 5:36pm

If you compare herlings with other riders then there is only one rider who looks a lot like him and that is haiden deegan

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9/30/2024 6:15pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2024 6:17pm

I don’t think they come to the US because of the bad rules in MXGP, but rather because of the competition and money.  Does anyone think the AMA wouldn’t have docked him a few spots for doing that?

Oh…. and fuck yeah, bring Herlings to America!  Outdoors only, I would hate for him to get broken in Supercross. 

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mxxxeR1 wrote:

If you compare herlings with other riders then there is only one rider who looks a lot like him and that is haiden deegan

hell nah brotha , when u slow the footage down the only comparison u can make is still Eli & Jeffery riding style & technique, not haiden 

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Come on over Prado and Herlings! 🤩

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9/30/2024 7:02pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2024 7:14pm
NVA57 wrote:

There’s no such thing as a dutch person and feeling they have money enough. 

Extremely accurate, it’s comical sometimes, at least with the group of Dutchies I know.

In regard to Herlings racing off -weekend races in 2025, he is signing his new deal with KTM soon-does anyone want to bet that management is going to restrict his off- weekend races in season to Dutch Masters and one or two other events?  

Rumor is they are not thrilled about how many he did this year, but who knows…

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Brent wrote:
…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck...

…. anyone who knows Jeffrey knows that he will practically run over his own family if  they were on the gate with him if a paycheck is involved

He’s proud of it too. 

rym wrote:
I think its both. The guy simply loves to ride. And he absolutely loves money.But i dont think racing in the non gp weekends cost him...

I think its both. The guy simply loves to ride. And he absolutely loves money.

But i dont think racing in the non gp weekends cost him the world title. He simply wasnt good enough in the 1st half of the season. 

RG437 wrote:
Racing on off weekends is a big reason why he got back to the level that he did in the second half of the season. He...

Racing on off weekends is a big reason why he got back to the level that he did in the second half of the season. He was injured in the offseason, came in way behind Prado and Gajser in terms of preparation, it would have been extremely difficult to catch them up if he was only doing the same races as them. He needed the gate drops 

Exactly. What's the difference between him actually racing vs guys in the states driving themselves into the ground doing crazy levels of off the bike training? I'd say it did Herlings good

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I like that he is still running baggy gear

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Brent wrote:
Extremely accurate, it’s comical sometimes, at least with the group of Dutchies I know.In regard to Herlings racing off -weekend races in 2025, he is signing...

Extremely accurate, it’s comical sometimes, at least with the group of Dutchies I know.

In regard to Herlings racing off -weekend races in 2025, he is signing his new deal with KTM soon-does anyone want to bet that management is going to restrict his off- weekend races in season to Dutch Masters and one or two other events?  

Rumor is they are not thrilled about how many he did this year, but who knows…

When he is in current shape from the get go in 25, there is no way he gonna do that much off racing. That’s something that’s clear for everyone. 

He just needed gate drops and confidence again, he got back on this level because all those races and riding. 

Guess Dutch Masters and a couple pre season could be it, when he comes in on fire. He won’t miss the boat next year…

 

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NVA57 wrote:

There’s no such thing as a dutch person and feeling they have money enough. 

Brent wrote:
Extremely accurate, it’s comical sometimes, at least with the group of Dutchies I know.In regard to Herlings racing off -weekend races in 2025, he is signing...

Extremely accurate, it’s comical sometimes, at least with the group of Dutchies I know.

In regard to Herlings racing off -weekend races in 2025, he is signing his new deal with KTM soon-does anyone want to bet that management is going to restrict his off- weekend races in season to Dutch Masters and one or two other events?  

Rumor is they are not thrilled about how many he did this year, but who knows…

It’s not the first time KTM isn’t happy with him riding too much. I remember in his early 250 days they didn’t want him to ride more than 3 times a week so they kept the bike at the workshop so he doesn’t ride. Then Jeffrey went to a dealership and bought a bike so he can ride 4 to 5 times a week! If I remember he wasn’t working out much or at all and was just riding A TON!

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EuroGuy39 wrote:
MXGP has some work to do, big changes are needed in that series. The real question is, are they willing to do it or are they...

MXGP has some work to do, big changes are needed in that series. The real question is, are they willing to do it or are they even worried about the current state?

MXGP is mess, 20 riders on the gate is a disaster, get rid of emx250 and put them in the premier class.

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9/30/2024 10:39pm

cue the cooksey hate train for herlings, if he allies with DC to race outdoors

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