New Kawasaki 2stroke possibility?

9/9/2024 11:34pm
Magoofan wrote:
Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail. 

Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail.

 

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Someone, please, with Photoshop skills.  Design us a 2025 KX125/250 with the rear fender plates!   Let's see how odd/cool this can be!

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I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local shop. 

I also said this back in 2017 or 2018 about Kawasaki making an Off-Road race model. In 2021 they brought the X models out and I bought a 250x and 450x.

Maybe my saying this will help the 2t come back! LOL

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9/10/2024 7:38am
WDSRCR wrote:
I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local...

I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local shop. 

I also said this back in 2017 or 2018 about Kawasaki making an Off-Road race model. In 2021 they brought the X models out and I bought a 250x and 450x.

Maybe my saying this will help the 2t come back! LOL

They will need to build them better especially the 125 . 1or 2 race frames on the pro bikes. I rode a few kx125 they where sloppy & wore out after aprox 50 hrs.  Check out Chad Johnson,s # 9 quick pivot battling his team mate Wiloh. That’s racing action and the sound of a racing engine, real quick.  No Stupid sounding rev limiter that sounds like a mis fire, 250f.  A racing engine is supposed to sound like 1 IMG 0870 1.jpeg?VersionId= A2RWRqmxbqe9d76kIDIMG 0876 0.png?VersionId=Mhk

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9/10/2024 7:46am Edited Date/Time 9/10/2024 7:46am
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here it is … the new old KX250

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9/10/2024 11:10am

Stihl is making a new Dirtbike based on a water cooled scaled up ms440 with cvt and everything to compete with electric 

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9/10/2024 11:55am

I dont understand what the commotion is about, that is a KX125, no its a Fantic 125, or maybe a YZ125, does it really matter.

For all you greenies, behold, your new 2025 KX125, its a thing of beauty.

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9/10/2024 1:07pm Edited Date/Time 9/10/2024 2:30pm

Look, 2-strokes aren’t coming back. We can wish all day long, but it will never happen. Someone mentioned DC, but DC can’t do anything since his paycheck comes from providing races for the factories to race their machines. If they pulled out, he wouldn’t get a paycheck. He could care less what bike the factories make or want to race, he just has to keep them happy.

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9/10/2024 1:51pm
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Sharp I like the DMC, old school.  There racing the 2024 kx125 alum frame in 125 emx .  Type 125 emx best of on yt. That Kuhn or what ever his name is that kid & the others rip. A tiny Estonia kid is on the kx alum frame too , crazy fast kid. .   I think he won a 250 mx2 race this yr.  The 125 is the biggest in most states. Not sure why people don’t follow it. But they do if a washed up pro tries to race a 125 at the nationals.  The young kids r faster. 

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9/10/2024 1:53pm
WDSRCR wrote:
I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local...

I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local shop. 

I also said this back in 2017 or 2018 about Kawasaki making an Off-Road race model. In 2021 they brought the X models out and I bought a 250x and 450x.

Maybe my saying this will help the 2t come back! LOL

They will need to build them better especially the 125 . 1or 2 race frames on the pro bikes. I rode a few kx125 they where...

They will need to build them better especially the 125 . 1or 2 race frames on the pro bikes. I rode a few kx125 they where sloppy & wore out after aprox 50 hrs.  Check out Chad Johnson,s # 9 quick pivot battling his team mate Wiloh. That’s racing action and the sound of a racing engine, real quick.  No Stupid sounding rev limiter that sounds like a mis fire, 250f.  A racing engine is supposed to sound like 1 IMG 0870 1.jpeg?VersionId= A2RWRqmxbqe9d76kIDIMG 0876 0.png?VersionId=Mhk

Ha 5 people that hate super crisp 125,s and Very intense racing. 

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9/10/2024 1:57pm
I dont understand what the commotion is about, that is a KX125, no its a Fantic 125, or maybe a YZ125, does it really matter.For all...

I dont understand what the commotion is about, that is a KX125, no its a Fantic 125, or maybe a YZ125, does it really matter.

For all you greenies, behold, your new 2025 KX125, its a thing of beauty.

Yeah almost as good as thisIMG 9336 4.jpeg?VersionId=EDw8mhBnkjAM

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9/10/2024 2:02pm
jaybasher wrote:

Think about it, 125 PRO class in the schedule.

It's not going to happen, AMA Pro racing is controlled by the manufacturers, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triump (Ducati when they start competing) don't have 125s...

It's not going to happen, AMA Pro racing is controlled by the manufacturers, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triump (Ducati when they start competing) don't have 125s, they will not support it.

Weird that Honda doesn’t control the FIM apparently 

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9/10/2024 2:44pm
WDSRCR wrote:
I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local...

I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local shop. 

I also said this back in 2017 or 2018 about Kawasaki making an Off-Road race model. In 2021 they brought the X models out and I bought a 250x and 450x.

Maybe my saying this will help the 2t come back! LOL

They will need to build them better especially the 125 . 1or 2 race frames on the pro bikes. I rode a few kx125 they where...

They will need to build them better especially the 125 . 1or 2 race frames on the pro bikes. I rode a few kx125 they where sloppy & wore out after aprox 50 hrs.  Check out Chad Johnson,s # 9 quick pivot battling his team mate Wiloh. That’s racing action and the sound of a racing engine, real quick.  No Stupid sounding rev limiter that sounds like a mis fire, 250f.  A racing engine is supposed to sound like 1 IMG 0870 1.jpeg?VersionId= A2RWRqmxbqe9d76kIDIMG 0876 0.png?VersionId=Mhk

Is that all the teeth you have left on that napkin? O_o 

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this the the coolest green color I've ever seen on a KX

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9/10/2024 5:09pm
Magoofan wrote:
Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail. 

Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail.

 

s1600 small KX250 pic-3852048392.jpg?VersionId=3MyBh2g

I had an '83 KX500.  Although not the greatest bike of that year, it was for sure bad ass looking as that 250 is.

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9/10/2024 5:53pm
Magoofan wrote:
Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail. 

Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail.

 

s1600 small KX250 pic-3852048392.jpg?VersionId=3MyBh2g

I had an '83 KX500.  Although not the greatest bike of that year, it was for sure bad ass looking as that 250 is.

Bikes of that era were going thru major yearly design changes...unheard of today.      None of them were great....but they all looked so cool.

Take this beauty...   Total mess...but one of the best looking bikes of all time.

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9/10/2024 5:59pm
jaybasher wrote:

Think about it, 125 PRO class in the schedule.

It's not going to happen, AMA Pro racing is controlled by the manufacturers, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triump (Ducati when they start competing) don't have 125s...

It's not going to happen, AMA Pro racing is controlled by the manufacturers, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triump (Ducati when they start competing) don't have 125s, they will not support it.

Weird that Honda doesn’t control the FIM apparently 

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9/10/2024 6:09pm
WDSRCR wrote:
I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local...

I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local shop. 

I also said this back in 2017 or 2018 about Kawasaki making an Off-Road race model. In 2021 they brought the X models out and I bought a 250x and 450x.

Maybe my saying this will help the 2t come back! LOL

They will need to build them better especially the 125 . 1or 2 race frames on the pro bikes. I rode a few kx125 they where...

They will need to build them better especially the 125 . 1or 2 race frames on the pro bikes. I rode a few kx125 they where sloppy & wore out after aprox 50 hrs.  Check out Chad Johnson,s # 9 quick pivot battling his team mate Wiloh. That’s racing action and the sound of a racing engine, real quick.  No Stupid sounding rev limiter that sounds like a mis fire, 250f.  A racing engine is supposed to sound like 1 IMG 0870 1.jpeg?VersionId= A2RWRqmxbqe9d76kIDIMG 0876 0.png?VersionId=Mhk

That you on the Honda pro?

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9/10/2024 6:47pm
jaybasher wrote:

Hey DC, you havent posted here in a while but, would a full gate of 125 pros get your heart pounding?

cwel11 wrote:

Money is the only thing that gets his heart pounding. 

Haha, funny but, thats bullshit. Does DC want to make $ ? Who doesnt? But he is as passionate as any of us about 125s and would definately be standing by the first turn at the start. Hopefully maybe at Daytona.

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9/10/2024 7:01pm
Magoofan wrote:
Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail. 

Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail.

 

s1600 small KX250 pic-3852048392.jpg?VersionId=3MyBh2g

I had an '83 KX500.  Although not the greatest bike of that year, it was for sure bad ass looking as that 250 is.

Magoofan wrote:
Bikes of that era were going thru major yearly design changes...unheard of today.      None of them were great....but they all looked so cool.Take this...

Bikes of that era were going thru major yearly design changes...unheard of today.      None of them were great....but they all looked so cool.

Take this beauty...   Total mess...but one of the best looking bikes of all time.

CLSSICHONDACR2501981

I have to disagree with you, the 1989 looked better... 

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I have to disagree with you, the 1989 looked better... 

I have to disagree with you, the 1989 looked better... 

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Yep X2

I’m keen on the 86s but that 89 CR125 was the best looking.

9/10/2024 9:15pm
WDSRCR wrote:
I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local...

I know it will never happen but IF Kawasaki brought back a 2 stroke 250 I would buy the first one that came to my local shop. 

I also said this back in 2017 or 2018 about Kawasaki making an Off-Road race model. In 2021 they brought the X models out and I bought a 250x and 450x.

Maybe my saying this will help the 2t come back! LOL

They will need to build them better especially the 125 . 1or 2 race frames on the pro bikes. I rode a few kx125 they where...

They will need to build them better especially the 125 . 1or 2 race frames on the pro bikes. I rode a few kx125 they where sloppy & wore out after aprox 50 hrs.  Check out Chad Johnson,s # 9 quick pivot battling his team mate Wiloh. That’s racing action and the sound of a racing engine, real quick.  No Stupid sounding rev limiter that sounds like a mis fire, 250f.  A racing engine is supposed to sound like 1 IMG 0870 1.jpeg?VersionId= A2RWRqmxbqe9d76kIDIMG 0876 0.png?VersionId=Mhk

jaybasher wrote:

That you on the Honda pro?

Yeah that’s my practice bike. The mod bike is all apart.  Trying to get a racing budget up .  Working for the 1099 Chicago Russian mob trucking outfits.  All 9 of them r a disaster, Feb 2021 the rates & freight crashed.  Huge drop in pay , every trk is a dangerous pile.  I,m trying to hang on a little longer . It’s more physical than jackhammering by a lot. .  I,m not working for another. I did a ton of damage to my body , 3 inches shorter destroyed my back, neck, etc.  I had dozens of injections to keep going . It’s pointless to be out here . No one is making any money. I did my taxes last week my tax guy said every co showed a loss.  The biggest co in America is doing real bad. So w2 jobs r crap too.  This is a Ukraine driver text at  my co they seem to b the priority, even tho none of them speak English. Illegal but common out here.  Even tho he doesn’t understand much of what I said Saturday. I had him laughing . IMG 0855 2 

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I had an '83 KX500.  Although not the greatest bike of that year, it was for sure bad ass looking as that 250 is.

Magoofan wrote:
Bikes of that era were going thru major yearly design changes...unheard of today.      None of them were great....but they all looked so cool.Take this...

Bikes of that era were going thru major yearly design changes...unheard of today.      None of them were great....but they all looked so cool.

Take this beauty...   Total mess...but one of the best looking bikes of all time.

CLSSICHONDACR2501981
I have to disagree with you, the 1989 looked better... 

I have to disagree with you, the 1989 looked better... 

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Beautiful bike....but looks like an every day run of the mill bike.   I'm talking about the unique.   The 81 CR I posted fits that bill. 

Just like Kawi's fender number plates....

 

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Magoofan wrote:
Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail. 

Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail.

 

s1600 small KX250 pic-3852048392.jpg?VersionId=3MyBh2g

I had an '83 KX500.  Although not the greatest bike of that year, it was for sure bad ass looking as that 250 is.

Magoofan wrote:
Bikes of that era were going thru major yearly design changes...unheard of today.      None of them were great....but they all looked so cool.Take this...

Bikes of that era were going thru major yearly design changes...unheard of today.      None of them were great....but they all looked so cool.

Take this beauty...   Total mess...but one of the best looking bikes of all time.

CLSSICHONDACR2501981

I almost cringe to say I bought that one as well in '81.  I thought it was a good bike at the time, but it didn't do anything miraculously better than my '78 250R.  I still tease my brother to this day as he took it a step lower and ended up with the '81 CR450R LOL.  

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Joshracing wrote:
The only way to make the KX125 come back, put your money where your mouth is.   Kawasaki is one company that is aware of the...

The only way to make the KX125 come back, put your money where your mouth is.   Kawasaki is one company that is aware of the need, but, they do need to see solid demand.  They can't just develop if people are not actually buying, just dreaming.   Dirt bikes are such a small part of the industry, but, Kawasaki are aware of the interest. 

I've rode green since I discoved MX. Started with a '79 KX80.  I then owned '84 & '85 KX125's that I bought new. I went into the 90's not riding. Got back in 2002 by buying a new KX250. Bought new Kawasaki 250's through '06. When they quit selling them in the U.S. in '07, despite riding and racing those years, I just kept my 2 strokes going. I didn't buy a new Kawasaki from '06 until 2022!!  I waited and waited to see if there was a chance. They lost a lot of years of selling me bikes. (It didn't hurt them obviously). But I can tell you, Kawasaki is never going to develop and make big bike class 2 strokes ever again. 

If they did, they have a guaranteed sale.

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9/15/2024 11:22am
I have to disagree with you, the 1989 looked better... 

I have to disagree with you, the 1989 looked better... 

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burn1986 wrote:

Yep X2

I’m keen on the 86s but that 89 CR125 was the best looking.

87 cr is the better looking of those bikes. Plastic color is brighter, cooler graphics, blue seat, gold wheels and the 1st yr of the rear disk. IMG 2411 0

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9/15/2024 11:27am
Magoofan wrote:
Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail. 

Only if they bring it back with the fender plates.....otherwise....fail.

 

s1600 small KX250 pic-3852048392.jpg?VersionId=3MyBh2g

Ever race one of those on a windy day…as in a serious side-wind…?

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9/15/2024 11:31am Edited Date/Time 9/15/2024 11:41am
Joshracing wrote:
The only way to make the KX125 come back, put your money where your mouth is.   Kawasaki is one company that is aware of the...

The only way to make the KX125 come back, put your money where your mouth is.   Kawasaki is one company that is aware of the need, but, they do need to see solid demand.  They can't just develop if people are not actually buying, just dreaming.   Dirt bikes are such a small part of the industry, but, Kawasaki are aware of the interest. 

kawasa84 wrote:
I've rode green since I discoved MX. Started with a '79 KX80.  I then owned '84 & '85 KX125's that I bought new. I went into...

I've rode green since I discoved MX. Started with a '79 KX80.  I then owned '84 & '85 KX125's that I bought new. I went into the 90's not riding. Got back in 2002 by buying a new KX250. Bought new Kawasaki 250's through '06. When they quit selling them in the U.S. in '07, despite riding and racing those years, I just kept my 2 strokes going. I didn't buy a new Kawasaki from '06 until 2022!!  I waited and waited to see if there was a chance. They lost a lot of years of selling me bikes. (It didn't hurt them obviously). But I can tell you, Kawasaki is never going to develop and make big bike class 2 strokes ever again. 

If they did, they have a guaranteed sale.

If they simply revamped the old designs like they’ve done with the 85/112…

And built it at the Thailand facility…

A 2026 KX250-2T…could easily be $7599. 

I’m jus’ sayin’…

 

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9/15/2024 2:21pm
Joshracing wrote:
The only way to make the KX125 come back, put your money where your mouth is.   Kawasaki is one company that is aware of the...

The only way to make the KX125 come back, put your money where your mouth is.   Kawasaki is one company that is aware of the need, but, they do need to see solid demand.  They can't just develop if people are not actually buying, just dreaming.   Dirt bikes are such a small part of the industry, but, Kawasaki are aware of the interest. 

kawasa84 wrote:
I've rode green since I discoved MX. Started with a '79 KX80.  I then owned '84 & '85 KX125's that I bought new. I went into...

I've rode green since I discoved MX. Started with a '79 KX80.  I then owned '84 & '85 KX125's that I bought new. I went into the 90's not riding. Got back in 2002 by buying a new KX250. Bought new Kawasaki 250's through '06. When they quit selling them in the U.S. in '07, despite riding and racing those years, I just kept my 2 strokes going. I didn't buy a new Kawasaki from '06 until 2022!!  I waited and waited to see if there was a chance. They lost a lot of years of selling me bikes. (It didn't hurt them obviously). But I can tell you, Kawasaki is never going to develop and make big bike class 2 strokes ever again. 

If they did, they have a guaranteed sale.

TeamGreen wrote:

If they simply revamped the old designs like they’ve done with the 85/112…

And built it at the Thailand facility…

A 2026 KX250-2T…could easily be $7599. 

I’m jus’ sayin’…

 

It’s never been a question of ability, any of the OEMs could have a 2 stroke lineup in the showrooms whenever they want. But will they? You probably have a better idea that most any of us, so I’m listening to whatever you’re saying, but I also know that the various political and social pressures aren’t going away. 

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