Christian Craig's "Secured deal"

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If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

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M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

Phil says, 🖕. 

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agn5008 wrote:
He’s top 10 in the 450 class and you think it’s crazy he gets good rides… How many guys do you think should get good rides...

He’s top 10 in the 450 class and you think it’s crazy he gets good rides… How many guys do you think should get good rides? 5? 

MxAddic wrote:

Truth is he has had the worst performance of any factory 450 guy for a long time. Does that guarantee one a factory ride?

OwenJakes wrote:

You’re one of the most low brow and tasteless posters on here. It’s sad to think you’re an adult. 

I was literally just thinking the same tthing. What a miserable human being

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I was literally just thinking the same tthing. What a miserable human being

Everybody knows you are a Bastian of Humanity.

Yet you are constantly busting my balls for things totally unrelated to you on this board. Hows that?

 

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Spooner wrote:

Agreed, I'm a big fan of his but unfortunately for him his big money days are likely behind him.  

Who cares he married into a rich family.. He's out there doing what he loves and seems to be living just fine.. 

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M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

Eli Tomac.

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He will be racing a 450 for the star 250 program. 

Meaning his deal is with star Yamaha not like Eli, Webb, and cooper with factory Yamaha. 

Family hook ups.  It's definitely helped Craig's career over the years.  And yes, I know he won a 250 regional SX title.  But aside from that...

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yod292 wrote:

Kind of crazy this dude keeps getting good rides 

Nepotism

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I don't know what you all are talking about but I seen him in the top 10 in the premier class most of the nationals. How...

I don't know what you all are talking about but I seen him in the top 10 in the premier class most of the nationals. How doesn't that deserve a good ride???

Jett Lawrence - out; Justin Barcia - out; Cooper Webb - out; Eli Tomac - out for most of season; Ken Roczen - not racing majority of series. 

His position in the top 10 starts looking pretty tenuous if you factor these riders back in. 

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yod292 wrote:

Kind of crazy this dude keeps getting good rides 

125Rider wrote:
He’s back in the top 10 even with a messed up elbow. His last Moto he finished 7th. And ended the season 8th in points. For...

He’s back in the top 10 even with a messed up elbow. His last Moto he finished 7th. And ended the season 8th in points. For some reason a lot of people don’t think a top 10 rider is worthy of a ride anymore. Which I don’t get. Especially the 450 class. 

Falcon wrote:

If you're not first, you're last. 2nd place is the first loser. Hunter Lawrence and everybody behind him sucks. I thought that was common knowledge! 

[/sarcasm]

Come on everyone.  It could be argued Craig is supposed to be the equal number 1 rider on Husky with Mookie.  That kind of contract requires better finishes than he's been able to muster since he joined the team in late 2022.  

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M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

In Craig's case I definitely would not re-sign him.  He's 33-years-old, has ongoing injury issues, and has done very little results wise since joining the 450 class full time.  No hate on Craig, it's just the reality. 

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So we are just going to ignore the elbow problem that has been going on for a while eh?   

Strange birds up in here…

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M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

dsc131 wrote:

Eli Tomac.

This is the worst comparison imaginable. If you don't know the difference between Tomac and Craig you don't know the sport. 

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Many think CC has not gelled with the Husky and is better suited to the aluminum frame bike. He was top 5 on the Star bike and I think he will show some better results when he’s back on the bike that suits him better AND finally healed up. 

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M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

dsc131 wrote:

Eli Tomac.

Herr Lich wrote:

This is the worst comparison imaginable. If you don't know the difference between Tomac and Craig you don't know the sport. 

The way I read it M1000 said he wouldn’t write a cheque to any rider over 30. He didn’t say CC. I wasn’t making a comparison…was merely pointing out there might be one guy he didn’t think about when he made that statement.

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8/26/2024 9:03pm Edited Date/Time 8/26/2024 9:08pm
M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

Well, there goes my hopes and dreams.  I was hoping I could get my pro card by the time I start collecting social security checks.

I might do it anyway Smile .

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mwilcox349 wrote:
I don't know what you all are talking about but I seen him in the top 10 in the premier class most of the nationals. How...

I don't know what you all are talking about but I seen him in the top 10 in the premier class most of the nationals. How doesn't that deserve a good ride???

Herr Lich wrote:
Jett Lawrence - out; Justin Barcia - out; Cooper Webb - out; Eli Tomac - out for most of season; Ken Roczen - not racing majority...

Jett Lawrence - out; Justin Barcia - out; Cooper Webb - out; Eli Tomac - out for most of season; Ken Roczen - not racing majority of series. 

His position in the top 10 starts looking pretty tenuous if you factor these riders back in. 

Staying healthy is part of the game.  CC finished 8th for the season.  ****NO ASTERISKS****

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OwenJakes wrote:

You’re one of the most low brow and tasteless posters on here. It’s sad to think you’re an adult. 

A cool feature of vital would be if, just for yourself, you could mute the posts of specific user names and never see them. Some threads might be hard to understand, but it would be a great crowd-sourced way of weeding out the toxic users. 

 

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M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

dsc131 wrote:

Eli Tomac.

Christian Craig - turned pro 2009

2022 AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class 5th place
1 career AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class Podium
13 career AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class top 5s

Eli Tomac - turned pro 2010

4-time AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class Champion (2022, 2019, 2018, 2017)
2-time AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class Runner-Up (2021, 2016)
2020 AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class 3rd place
2013 AMA Pro Motocross 250 Class Champion
31 career AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class Wins
12 career AMA Pro Motocross 250 Class Wins
25 career AMA Pro Motocross 250 Class Podiums

 

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mwilcox349 wrote:
I don't know what you all are talking about but I seen him in the top 10 in the premier class most of the nationals. How...

I don't know what you all are talking about but I seen him in the top 10 in the premier class most of the nationals. How doesn't that deserve a good ride???

Herr Lich wrote:
Jett Lawrence - out; Justin Barcia - out; Cooper Webb - out; Eli Tomac - out for most of season; Ken Roczen - not racing majority...

Jett Lawrence - out; Justin Barcia - out; Cooper Webb - out; Eli Tomac - out for most of season; Ken Roczen - not racing majority of series. 

His position in the top 10 starts looking pretty tenuous if you factor these riders back in. 

Radical wrote:

Staying healthy is part of the game.  CC finished 8th for the season.  ****NO ASTERISKS****

That's true.  I was thinking more in terms of teams.  If you were thinking of signing someone you would want to look at how a rider would stack up against all the best riders.  

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mwilcox349 wrote:
I don't know what you all are talking about but I seen him in the top 10 in the premier class most of the nationals. How...

I don't know what you all are talking about but I seen him in the top 10 in the premier class most of the nationals. How doesn't that deserve a good ride???

Saw*

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M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

dsc131 wrote:

Eli Tomac.

Herr Lich wrote:
Christian Craig - turned pro 20092022 AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class 5th place1 career AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class Podium13 career AMA Pro Motocross 450...

Christian Craig - turned pro 2009

2022 AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class 5th place
1 career AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class Podium
13 career AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class top 5s

Eli Tomac - turned pro 2010

4-time AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class Champion (2022, 2019, 2018, 2017)
2-time AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class Runner-Up (2021, 2016)
2020 AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class 3rd place
2013 AMA Pro Motocross 250 Class Champion
31 career AMA Pro Motocross 450 Class Wins
12 career AMA Pro Motocross 250 Class Wins
25 career AMA Pro Motocross 250 Class Podiums

 

Herr,

As I said above in a reply you must have missed “The way I read it M1000 said he wouldn’t write a cheque to ANY rider over 30. He didn’t say CC. I wasn’t making a comparison…was merely pointing out there might be one guy he didn’t think about when he made that statement.”

Again, I am not implying that CC has had anywhere near the career that ET and for that reason M1000 should be willing to pay Tomac even though ET is over 30 so his point is not a good one.

Perhaps my reply text should have been “Eli Tomac is over 30…would you not pay him?”  My apologies for not being clear. 

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brocster wrote:

So we are just going to ignore the elbow problem that has been going on for a while eh?   

Strange birds up in here…

Star did…

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agn5008 wrote:
He’s top 10 in the 450 class and you think it’s crazy he gets good rides… How many guys do you think should get good rides...

He’s top 10 in the 450 class and you think it’s crazy he gets good rides… How many guys do you think should get good rides? 5? 

MxAddic wrote:

Truth is he has had the worst performance of any factory 450 guy for a long time. Does that guarantee one a factory ride?

Is performance the only parameter that factory rides are based on?

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M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

Herr Lich wrote:
In Craig's case I definitely would not re-sign him.  He's 33-years-old, has ongoing injury issues, and has done very little results wise since joining the 450...

In Craig's case I definitely would not re-sign him.  He's 33-years-old, has ongoing injury issues, and has done very little results wise since joining the 450 class full time.  No hate on Craig, it's just the reality. 

That's why Husky isn't re-signing him, and I don't think you'll find 1 person who thinks his time there was a success. But he absolutely has the potential for another team to sign him, we saw how good he was on the star 450 before.

There were years where I absolutely think he didn't deserve his Geico ride and only kept it due to nepotism, but he's had good enough performances in more recent years to make a legit case for being on a factory bike/higher level team.

 

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Keeping his Fox contract?  Like I asked in the other thread, Fox wouldn't refuse to let him out if it was the only real offer he...

Keeping his Fox contract?  Like I asked in the other thread, Fox wouldn't refuse to let him out if it was the only real offer he had, would they?  I understand that business is business, but there wouldn't seem to be much upside holding him to his contract while sitting on the couch, would there?

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I doubt his fox deal is a huge money deal anyways, they likely got him pretty cheap. And many times riders have all their deals on...

I doubt his fox deal is a huge money deal anyways, they likely got him pretty cheap. And many times riders have all their deals on the same timeframes so that when they change teams they are shopping/renewing deals all at the same time.

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I can't imagine that he's helping them sell more gear anyways. Not a dig, but he doesn't get much airtime so not a large loss for...

I can't imagine that he's helping them sell more gear anyways. Not a dig, but he doesn't get much airtime so not a large loss for them

He has 450k Instagram followers and 120k Youtube subscribers that see him putting on Fox gear multiple times every video I think Fox is happy with the exposure. 

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brocster wrote:

So we are just going to ignore the elbow problem that has been going on for a while eh?   

Strange birds up in here…

Everyday vital goes farther away from reality. By next year anyone who doesn’t finish top 2.  Won’t deserve a ride. And would be encouraged to retire immediately. 

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M1000 wrote:
If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start...

If I was cutting the cheque. I wouldn’t be cutting any cheque to a guy older than 30. If they want to continue racing, can start their own team (Reed). Only be pursuing young talent, after 20 years of age, move up to 450 class. Make room for new talented riders. Small pay window for big bucks 20-28. 

So elite riders like Tomac and Anderson wouldn’t have a paid spot on a team under your watch. They’d have no choice but to start a team. 😂😂😂 this is hilarious and insane! 

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AMetts wrote:
He has 450k Instagram followers and 120k Youtube subscribers that see him putting on Fox gear multiple times every video I think Fox is happy with...

He has 450k Instagram followers and 120k Youtube subscribers that see him putting on Fox gear multiple times every video I think Fox is happy with the exposure. 

Great point. Craig definitely has a lot of eyes on him. That’s not what some people want to hear. Oh well truth hurts. 

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brocster wrote:

So we are just going to ignore the elbow problem that has been going on for a while eh?   

Strange birds up in here…

He has had some consistency lately for sure and definitely seems to be improving each week.  I was not sure if he would ever bounce back, but he not only seems to be doing fine with his Husky at the moment, but also definitely feeling better.  I don't know if it was ever that he was not doing well on white, it may have been very well just lingering physical issues the past couple of years.

Flip side, riders and motorsports athletes tend to magically find a lot of talent and speed in contract years (for the NASCAR folks, look at SHR racers), but with Christian already having something lined up for next year, he does definitely seem to be rebounding really nice at the moment and that has nothing to do with lack of plans for next year.  Hopefully he can stay healthy in the off season and have a good and complete year next year.
 

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