Wheelie Boy headed towards reformation

kage173 wrote:

I already adressed your false premise that wheelie boyz are all about stealing bikes. Youve never met any of them and I point to the one...

I already adressed your false premise that wheelie boyz are all about stealing bikes. Youve never met any of them and I point to the one in the video and ask if you think he stole the bIke hes riding. But you wont answer because it doesn't fit your narrative. Which is dumb at best aND racist at worst.

The first time I heard about a bIke getting stolen was 1990 when my Dad found a guy rolling an XR though a hole he cut in the fence behind the local dealership. That was about 25 years befire I heard the word wheelie boyz. Every group Ive ever ridden with, sport bikes, moto, aND Harleys all had stories about bikes getting stolen. None of it had to do with wheelie boyz.  AND if you think youve never ridden a moto x track next to a stolen bike then you're a fool. The iDea that only wheelie boyz steal bikes is dumb. The iDea that all wheelie boyz steal bikes is dumb. The iDea that Im cool with stealing bikes is dumb. 

Learn how to make distinctions. That's what adults do. 

And if you think that non moto people will ever think about anything other than Sons if Anarchy when they hear the word motorcyle, or that they will ever have any clue how much discipline aND effort it takes to race then you are naive. Stop caring what they think or desiring their respect. They would, aND are trying, to shut down off road moto regardless of some guys doing wheelies in the cities. Ask anybody out west how fast riding areas are getting shut down. Ask anybody who has every tried to build a new track, how hard it is to not get shut down. 

You spending your time hating on other people that love motorcycles as much as you do is far more damaging than tHan the wheelie boyz. Get a life. Mind your own business. Ride and let ride. 

Village Idiot wrote:

I said I was wrapping this. I and a lot of others on here know their history and the truth of the matter and no amount of...

I said I was wrapping this. 

I and a lot of others on here know their history and the truth of the matter and no amount of denying, race-baiting and name calling on your part will change that. It has nothing to do with the color of someone's skin and everything to do with their actions - or are you incapable of making the distinction? When you have as much knowledge and experience on the subject matter you can come back and have a civil, mature discussion instead of a bunch of bombastic, redneck rhetoric and accusations. It doesn't sit well with most people when you try to lecture them on something of which you know next to nothing and are just expressing opinions on and they have first-hand knowledge and experience with it. 

There's a word for people like that.

You're convinced you're unquestionably correct on the matter and the rest of us are troglodytes, so no further discussion is needed.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go cut eye-holes in these white bed sheets and fit them over some cones.

Have a good evening and be sure to hug a WB for the rest of us.

Village Idiot wrote:

I said I was wrapping this. I and a lot of others on here know their history and the truth of the matter and no amount of...

I said I was wrapping this. 

I and a lot of others on here know their history and the truth of the matter and no amount of denying, race-baiting and name calling on your part will change that. It has nothing to do with the color of someone's skin and everything to do with their actions - or are you incapable of making the distinction? When you have as much knowledge and experience on the subject matter you can come back and have a civil, mature discussion instead of a bunch of bombastic, redneck rhetoric and accusations. It doesn't sit well with most people when you try to lecture them on something of which you know next to nothing and are just expressing opinions on and they have first-hand knowledge and experience with it. 

There's a word for people like that.

You're convinced you're unquestionably correct on the matter and the rest of us are troglodytes, so no further discussion is needed.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go cut eye-holes in these white bed sheets and fit them over some cones.

Have a good evening and be sure to hug a WB for the rest of us.

kage173 wrote:

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the...

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the street with the intent to terrorize people and damage property?' But, you refuse to answer because you would be forced to view him as an individual and relate to the joy he feels riding a motorcycle. You would rather view people as groups. The groups that are like you and the groups that are not like you. Then you can cast every negative quality onto each individual in the group that's not like you.  

 Motocrossers are like you. None of them have a criminal history. There are no stolen bikes at the track. They ride motorcycles for the thrill of speed and the joy of pushing their skill limits. Wheelie Boys are not like you. They ride motorcycles to terrorize others. They are all criminals. They all have stolen bikes.  

 So, you want first-hand knowledge. I used to ride sport bikes on the street. I popped wheelies, did burnouts and rode way past the speed limit. Once a week, me and my group of 3-5 would meet up with 50 other riders. I had no idea if they were criminals, were insured, or were on stolen bikes. We would go for ride and pop wheelies on the way. It was a blast. Sometimes there were some idiots that would do some stuff. Usually new guys and we shake our heads then ride off and call it a night. We never hurt anybody but ourselves. I don’t see any difference between us and these guys except the type of bike we were on. 

 I've been held up in traffic in Dallas and south Ft. Worth before by wheelie boyz. They took up an intersection. One of them started doing tight slow wheelies around a traffic light pole that required a skill level I've only seen on a few people out at the track.  I en joyed the show. Another time, I had them taking up a lane on the frontage road of the highway. It wasn't any different than a group of Harleys or sport bikes, just a little slower. Eventually they pulled off and I went on with my day. 

 I had a buddy who had his bike stolen, presumably by some wheelie boyz. It wasn't any different than everybody else I've known that had their bikes stolen. Other than the fact that he got it back in pieces when the guy crashed it. We were all pissed. Thieves are trash, no matter who they are. 

So, we're having a genuine conversation:  

 1. Tell me honestly your first-hand knowledge of the wheelie boyz and street riding. Don't go spend 30 minutes digging up stats on Chat GPT or pulling up YouTube videos or calling Meister. What is YOUR first hand experience with anyone who could be considered a wheelie boy? 

 2. Have you watched the video that was posted? Do you think that guy is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the streets with the intent to terrorize other motorists? 

Village Idiot wrote:

I said I was wrapping this. I and a lot of others on here know their history and the truth of the matter and no amount of...

I said I was wrapping this. 

I and a lot of others on here know their history and the truth of the matter and no amount of denying, race-baiting and name calling on your part will change that. It has nothing to do with the color of someone's skin and everything to do with their actions - or are you incapable of making the distinction? When you have as much knowledge and experience on the subject matter you can come back and have a civil, mature discussion instead of a bunch of bombastic, redneck rhetoric and accusations. It doesn't sit well with most people when you try to lecture them on something of which you know next to nothing and are just expressing opinions on and they have first-hand knowledge and experience with it. 

There's a word for people like that.

You're convinced you're unquestionably correct on the matter and the rest of us are troglodytes, so no further discussion is needed.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go cut eye-holes in these white bed sheets and fit them over some cones.

Have a good evening and be sure to hug a WB for the rest of us.

kage173 wrote:

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the...

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the street with the intent to terrorize people and damage property?' But, you refuse to answer because you would be forced to view him as an individual and relate to the joy he feels riding a motorcycle. You would rather view people as groups. The groups that are like you and the groups that are not like you. Then you can cast every negative quality onto each individual in the group that's not like you.  

 Motocrossers are like you. None of them have a criminal history. There are no stolen bikes at the track. They ride motorcycles for the thrill of speed and the joy of pushing their skill limits. Wheelie Boys are not like you. They ride motorcycles to terrorize others. They are all criminals. They all have stolen bikes.  

 So, you want first-hand knowledge. I used to ride sport bikes on the street. I popped wheelies, did burnouts and rode way past the speed limit. Once a week, me and my group of 3-5 would meet up with 50 other riders. I had no idea if they were criminals, were insured, or were on stolen bikes. We would go for ride and pop wheelies on the way. It was a blast. Sometimes there were some idiots that would do some stuff. Usually new guys and we shake our heads then ride off and call it a night. We never hurt anybody but ourselves. I don’t see any difference between us and these guys except the type of bike we were on. 

 I've been held up in traffic in Dallas and south Ft. Worth before by wheelie boyz. They took up an intersection. One of them started doing tight slow wheelies around a traffic light pole that required a skill level I've only seen on a few people out at the track.  I en joyed the show. Another time, I had them taking up a lane on the frontage road of the highway. It wasn't any different than a group of Harleys or sport bikes, just a little slower. Eventually they pulled off and I went on with my day. 

 I had a buddy who had his bike stolen, presumably by some wheelie boyz. It wasn't any different than everybody else I've known that had their bikes stolen. Other than the fact that he got it back in pieces when the guy crashed it. We were all pissed. Thieves are trash, no matter who they are. 

So, we're having a genuine conversation:  

 1. Tell me honestly your first-hand knowledge of the wheelie boyz and street riding. Don't go spend 30 minutes digging up stats on Chat GPT or pulling up YouTube videos or calling Meister. What is YOUR first hand experience with anyone who could be considered a wheelie boy? 

 2. Have you watched the video that was posted? Do you think that guy is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the streets with the intent to terrorize other motorists? 

Soul Indigo wrote:

I can find common ground on a lot of what you have said so far. There are some key points that it doesn’t appear you are grasping...

I can find common ground on a lot of what you have said so far. 

There are some key points that it doesn’t appear you are grasping at the moment.  

The difference in the bikes is what makes it different. Street bikes belong on streets. Off road bikes belong off road. 

If you are riding an off road bike on a road for fun, you’re an idiot. If you are riding an off road bike on a road in order to get to an off road place, then you are cool.

And fuck thieves.

The rest is noise and nuance.

Ps. Legality is a suggestion, not a religion. Be your own person and make your own decisions. Actions have consequences 

Pps. Some of the best advice my dad ever gave me was “break one law at a time”.

TeamGreen wrote:

That video was excellent and that dude is definitely sharing the stoke.Nice 

That video was excellent and that dude is definitely sharing the stoke.

Nice 

TeamGreen wrote:

That video was excellent and that dude is definitely sharing the stoke.Nice 

That video was excellent and that dude is definitely sharing the stoke.

Nice 

brocster wrote:

Where or what do you draw the line on re: illegal activities?  Its people like you that try to normalize illegal activities b/c of your oh...

Where or what do you draw the line on re: illegal activities?  Its people like you that try to normalize illegal activities b/c of your oh so soft heart that are making law and order harder and harder to enforce. Good job!

kage173 wrote:

Where do you draw the line between yourself aND my neighbor who called the cops on my 9 year old son riding his CRF 50 down...

Where do you draw the line between yourself aND my neighbor who called the cops on my 9 year old son riding his CRF 50 down the street. 

 

Village Idiot wrote:

I said I was wrapping this. I and a lot of others on here know their history and the truth of the matter and no amount of...

I said I was wrapping this. 

I and a lot of others on here know their history and the truth of the matter and no amount of denying, race-baiting and name calling on your part will change that. It has nothing to do with the color of someone's skin and everything to do with their actions - or are you incapable of making the distinction? When you have as much knowledge and experience on the subject matter you can come back and have a civil, mature discussion instead of a bunch of bombastic, redneck rhetoric and accusations. It doesn't sit well with most people when you try to lecture them on something of which you know next to nothing and are just expressing opinions on and they have first-hand knowledge and experience with it. 

There's a word for people like that.

You're convinced you're unquestionably correct on the matter and the rest of us are troglodytes, so no further discussion is needed.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go cut eye-holes in these white bed sheets and fit them over some cones.

Have a good evening and be sure to hug a WB for the rest of us.

kage173 wrote:

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the...

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the street with the intent to terrorize people and damage property?' But, you refuse to answer because you would be forced to view him as an individual and relate to the joy he feels riding a motorcycle. You would rather view people as groups. The groups that are like you and the groups that are not like you. Then you can cast every negative quality onto each individual in the group that's not like you.  

 Motocrossers are like you. None of them have a criminal history. There are no stolen bikes at the track. They ride motorcycles for the thrill of speed and the joy of pushing their skill limits. Wheelie Boys are not like you. They ride motorcycles to terrorize others. They are all criminals. They all have stolen bikes.  

 So, you want first-hand knowledge. I used to ride sport bikes on the street. I popped wheelies, did burnouts and rode way past the speed limit. Once a week, me and my group of 3-5 would meet up with 50 other riders. I had no idea if they were criminals, were insured, or were on stolen bikes. We would go for ride and pop wheelies on the way. It was a blast. Sometimes there were some idiots that would do some stuff. Usually new guys and we shake our heads then ride off and call it a night. We never hurt anybody but ourselves. I don’t see any difference between us and these guys except the type of bike we were on. 

 I've been held up in traffic in Dallas and south Ft. Worth before by wheelie boyz. They took up an intersection. One of them started doing tight slow wheelies around a traffic light pole that required a skill level I've only seen on a few people out at the track.  I en joyed the show. Another time, I had them taking up a lane on the frontage road of the highway. It wasn't any different than a group of Harleys or sport bikes, just a little slower. Eventually they pulled off and I went on with my day. 

 I had a buddy who had his bike stolen, presumably by some wheelie boyz. It wasn't any different than everybody else I've known that had their bikes stolen. Other than the fact that he got it back in pieces when the guy crashed it. We were all pissed. Thieves are trash, no matter who they are. 

So, we're having a genuine conversation:  

 1. Tell me honestly your first-hand knowledge of the wheelie boyz and street riding. Don't go spend 30 minutes digging up stats on Chat GPT or pulling up YouTube videos or calling Meister. What is YOUR first hand experience with anyone who could be considered a wheelie boy? 

 2. Have you watched the video that was posted? Do you think that guy is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the streets with the intent to terrorize other motorists? 

Soul Indigo wrote:

I can find common ground on a lot of what you have said so far. There are some key points that it doesn’t appear you are grasping...

I can find common ground on a lot of what you have said so far. 

There are some key points that it doesn’t appear you are grasping at the moment.  

The difference in the bikes is what makes it different. Street bikes belong on streets. Off road bikes belong off road. 

If you are riding an off road bike on a road for fun, you’re an idiot. If you are riding an off road bike on a road in order to get to an off road place, then you are cool.

And fuck thieves.

The rest is noise and nuance.

Ps. Legality is a suggestion, not a religion. Be your own person and make your own decisions. Actions have consequences 

Pps. Some of the best advice my dad ever gave me was “break one law at a time”.

kage173 wrote:

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the...

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the street with the intent to terrorize people and damage property?' But, you refuse to answer because you would be forced to view him as an individual and relate to the joy he feels riding a motorcycle. You would rather view people as groups. The groups that are like you and the groups that are not like you. Then you can cast every negative quality onto each individual in the group that's not like you.  

 Motocrossers are like you. None of them have a criminal history. There are no stolen bikes at the track. They ride motorcycles for the thrill of speed and the joy of pushing their skill limits. Wheelie Boys are not like you. They ride motorcycles to terrorize others. They are all criminals. They all have stolen bikes.  

 So, you want first-hand knowledge. I used to ride sport bikes on the street. I popped wheelies, did burnouts and rode way past the speed limit. Once a week, me and my group of 3-5 would meet up with 50 other riders. I had no idea if they were criminals, were insured, or were on stolen bikes. We would go for ride and pop wheelies on the way. It was a blast. Sometimes there were some idiots that would do some stuff. Usually new guys and we shake our heads then ride off and call it a night. We never hurt anybody but ourselves. I don’t see any difference between us and these guys except the type of bike we were on. 

 I've been held up in traffic in Dallas and south Ft. Worth before by wheelie boyz. They took up an intersection. One of them started doing tight slow wheelies around a traffic light pole that required a skill level I've only seen on a few people out at the track.  I en joyed the show. Another time, I had them taking up a lane on the frontage road of the highway. It wasn't any different than a group of Harleys or sport bikes, just a little slower. Eventually they pulled off and I went on with my day. 

 I had a buddy who had his bike stolen, presumably by some wheelie boyz. It wasn't any different than everybody else I've known that had their bikes stolen. Other than the fact that he got it back in pieces when the guy crashed it. We were all pissed. Thieves are trash, no matter who they are. 

So, we're having a genuine conversation:  

 1. Tell me honestly your first-hand knowledge of the wheelie boyz and street riding. Don't go spend 30 minutes digging up stats on Chat GPT or pulling up YouTube videos or calling Meister. What is YOUR first hand experience with anyone who could be considered a wheelie boy? 

 2. Have you watched the video that was posted? Do you think that guy is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the streets with the intent to terrorize other motorists? 

Soul Indigo wrote:

I can find common ground on a lot of what you have said so far. There are some key points that it doesn’t appear you are grasping...

I can find common ground on a lot of what you have said so far. 

There are some key points that it doesn’t appear you are grasping at the moment.  

The difference in the bikes is what makes it different. Street bikes belong on streets. Off road bikes belong off road. 

If you are riding an off road bike on a road for fun, you’re an idiot. If you are riding an off road bike on a road in order to get to an off road place, then you are cool.

And fuck thieves.

The rest is noise and nuance.

Ps. Legality is a suggestion, not a religion. Be your own person and make your own decisions. Actions have consequences 

Pps. Some of the best advice my dad ever gave me was “break one law at a time”.

Herr Lich wrote:

Legality is not a suggestion.  Something is either illegal or it isn't. Whether one chooses to follow a particular law or not does not make the...

Legality is not a suggestion.  Something is either illegal or it isn't. Whether one chooses to follow a particular law or not does not make the law simply a suggestion. 

kage173 wrote:

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the...

I offered civil conversation. I asked 'Do you think the guy in the video is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the street with the intent to terrorize people and damage property?' But, you refuse to answer because you would be forced to view him as an individual and relate to the joy he feels riding a motorcycle. You would rather view people as groups. The groups that are like you and the groups that are not like you. Then you can cast every negative quality onto each individual in the group that's not like you.  

 Motocrossers are like you. None of them have a criminal history. There are no stolen bikes at the track. They ride motorcycles for the thrill of speed and the joy of pushing their skill limits. Wheelie Boys are not like you. They ride motorcycles to terrorize others. They are all criminals. They all have stolen bikes.  

 So, you want first-hand knowledge. I used to ride sport bikes on the street. I popped wheelies, did burnouts and rode way past the speed limit. Once a week, me and my group of 3-5 would meet up with 50 other riders. I had no idea if they were criminals, were insured, or were on stolen bikes. We would go for ride and pop wheelies on the way. It was a blast. Sometimes there were some idiots that would do some stuff. Usually new guys and we shake our heads then ride off and call it a night. We never hurt anybody but ourselves. I don’t see any difference between us and these guys except the type of bike we were on. 

 I've been held up in traffic in Dallas and south Ft. Worth before by wheelie boyz. They took up an intersection. One of them started doing tight slow wheelies around a traffic light pole that required a skill level I've only seen on a few people out at the track.  I en joyed the show. Another time, I had them taking up a lane on the frontage road of the highway. It wasn't any different than a group of Harleys or sport bikes, just a little slower. Eventually they pulled off and I went on with my day. 

 I had a buddy who had his bike stolen, presumably by some wheelie boyz. It wasn't any different than everybody else I've known that had their bikes stolen. Other than the fact that he got it back in pieces when the guy crashed it. We were all pissed. Thieves are trash, no matter who they are. 

So, we're having a genuine conversation:  

 1. Tell me honestly your first-hand knowledge of the wheelie boyz and street riding. Don't go spend 30 minutes digging up stats on Chat GPT or pulling up YouTube videos or calling Meister. What is YOUR first hand experience with anyone who could be considered a wheelie boy? 

 2. Have you watched the video that was posted? Do you think that guy is riding a stolen bike? And do you think he rides the streets with the intent to terrorize other motorists? 

Soul Indigo wrote:

I can find common ground on a lot of what you have said so far. There are some key points that it doesn’t appear you are grasping...

I can find common ground on a lot of what you have said so far. 

There are some key points that it doesn’t appear you are grasping at the moment.  

The difference in the bikes is what makes it different. Street bikes belong on streets. Off road bikes belong off road. 

If you are riding an off road bike on a road for fun, you’re an idiot. If you are riding an off road bike on a road in order to get to an off road place, then you are cool.

And fuck thieves.

The rest is noise and nuance.

Ps. Legality is a suggestion, not a religion. Be your own person and make your own decisions. Actions have consequences 

Pps. Some of the best advice my dad ever gave me was “break one law at a time”.

jazza167 wrote:

Your dad is a good bastard…. Great line, will be using this on my son once he’s old enough 👍