Swoll bike problems again?

7/8/2024 1:18pm
bc775 wrote:

They said ecu issues. The review show made mention of a possible new ecu manufacturer for triumph soon. 

Flatliner wrote:

That makes me worry for every regular customer who's bought one.

The stock ECU is fine. No issues 

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7/8/2024 1:20pm

Motec is an awesome ECU company used extensively through auto racing with ability to control and change anything you wire it to, but that seems to be too big of a sandbox to jump into this quickly for the team

7/8/2024 1:38pm

Well the real Horsepower test is Millville.

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7/8/2024 1:45pm
Two Stroke wrote:
Teeth coming off a sprocket and chain problems may be aftermarket or not Triumph parts but very seldom do see that kind of problem even on...

Teeth coming off a sprocket and chain problems may be aftermarket or not Triumph parts but very seldom do see that kind of problem even on the privateers bikes. Triumph decided what parts to source and decided they were up to their standards.They failed. Doesn't look good. 

I guess I see where you're coming from, but I'd love to hear what components you feel they should have chosen that are higher quality than Renthal Sprockets and RK Chains.

 

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7/8/2024 2:37pm
tek14 wrote:

Do they use Get ecus at GPs?

I believe so, from what was said on Pulp there was a industry politics reason why there’s a different ECU for the USA team 

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7/8/2024 3:23pm
LungButter wrote:
I guess I see where you're coming from, but I'd love to hear what components you feel they should have chosen that are higher quality than...

I guess I see where you're coming from, but I'd love to hear what components you feel they should have chosen that are higher quality than Renthal Sprockets and RK Chains.

 

I didn't know who they were using but it looked bad but with those suppliers I'd be looking somewhere else like excess play in the chain or swing arm flex to break a tooth or teeth off of a sprocket or break a chain. If the chain climbs a sprocket, it would be easy to break a chain or a tooth on a sprocket.  Maybe the ECU is causing a misfire and then it comes back on and hits and possibly damages the chain/sprocket.  What size chain are they running? You would think it would be 520 HD  or similar but does anyone know?  

 

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7/8/2024 3:34pm
bc775 wrote:

They said ecu issues. The review show made mention of a possible new ecu manufacturer for triumph soon. 

Flatliner wrote:

That makes me worry for every regular customer who's bought one.

The production bike doesn't use the same ECU as the race team, it's from a different manufacturer.

7/8/2024 3:46pm

If the Triumph is breaking chains and ripping teeth off of the sprocket, I suspect it’s a bike problem, not an aftermarket part problem. That tells me that there’s an issue with the movement of that swingarm under load.

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7/8/2024 3:57pm
If the Triumph is breaking chains and ripping teeth off of the sprocket, I suspect it’s a bike problem, not an aftermarket part problem. That tells...

If the Triumph is breaking chains and ripping teeth off of the sprocket, I suspect it’s a bike problem, not an aftermarket part problem. That tells me that there’s an issue with the movement of that swingarm under load.

The whole sprocket/chain thing sounds fishy to me.

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7/9/2024 7:40am

I thought Steve said a rock got into the countershaft sprocket and damaged it at Southwick. Dry

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7/9/2024 8:02am

You could see in the Southwick broadcast that the the sprocket was certainly missing a chain on the rear when they were pushing the bike away, could of been as simple as a rock or something derailing the chain I guess. 

And yes the race bikes are running the Motec stuff and the production bikes are on Athena ECUs, I also remember hearing maybe from Pulp that it was some kind of politics issue.

What is odd is that Athena is GET but the Triumph is marketed as having a Athena ECU not a GET ECU? 

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7/9/2024 9:43am
dsmith wrote:

rc..said sprocket teeth broke off...and it wasnt a triumph manufactured part...

Very common symptom of sprocket bolts not torqued properly . 

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7/9/2024 10:04am
Rosso391 wrote:

Well the real Horsepower test is Millville.

Surprised this has three downvotes... mount martin shows who's got it and who doesn't.

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7/9/2024 11:35am
Rosso391 wrote:

Well the real Horsepower test is Millville.

Flatliner wrote:

Surprised this has three downvotes... mount martin shows who's got it and who doesn't.

They don't hate what I say, they just hate ME... Mt. Martin has always been a benchmark for 250's on who could jump the uphill triple and who can't.

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7/9/2024 11:43am

Remember the old Elsinors had frame and swingarm flex that caused the chains to break, derail and or sprocket damage.

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7/9/2024 11:51am

Maybe Ferry left cause he knew the bikes were time bombs and didn't want to get hurt from a bike failure.

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7/9/2024 1:58pm
AMetts wrote:
You could see in the Southwick broadcast that the the sprocket was certainly missing a chain on the rear when they were pushing the bike away...

You could see in the Southwick broadcast that the the sprocket was certainly missing a chain on the rear when they were pushing the bike away, could of been as simple as a rock or something derailing the chain I guess. 

And yes the race bikes are running the Motec stuff and the production bikes are on Athena ECUs, I also remember hearing maybe from Pulp that it was some kind of politics issue.

What is odd is that Athena is GET but the Triumph is marketed as having a Athena ECU not a GET ECU? 

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7/10/2024 3:53am
I thought Steve said a rock got into the countershaft sprocket and damaged it at Southwick. 

I thought Steve said a rock got into the countershaft sprocket and damaged it at Southwick. Dry

Do they even have rocks at Southwick?  I thought it was a sand track.  Any locals on here that know?  

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