Any recovery updates for Tomac, Webb, and Kroc?

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Edited Date/Time 6/17/2024 4:45pm

Anybody know if they are back on the bike yet?

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6/17/2024 3:02pm
Ozy wrote:

Anybody know if they are back on the bike yet?

Not sure about Kenny and Eli but I know where Webb is.

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Eli is trying to get back for the last 3 rounds of Mx I believe

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Kenny had his bike in the back of his truck on his instagram today. So maybe he’s riding soon. 

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Cant wait, whenever it is.

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6/17/2024 6:24pm Edited Date/Time 6/17/2024 6:24pm

This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are old is not good.

It seems this is how all these guys end up. Age makes you break easier and heal slower. Not counting the mental aspect.

Kenny probably didn't mind the break. For sure Webb doesn't mind the break. Smile

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kpiper wrote:
This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are...

This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are old is not good.

It seems this is how all these guys end up. Age makes you break easier and heal slower. Not counting the mental aspect.

Kenny probably didn't mind the break. For sure Webb doesn't mind the break. Smile

Old? You gotta be kidding me lmao

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6/17/2024 6:48pm

Kenny was riding his road bike, pedaling with one leg a week or two ago. So, he’s probably still out for a bit. 

6/17/2024 6:56pm
kpiper wrote:
This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are...

This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are old is not good.

It seems this is how all these guys end up. Age makes you break easier and heal slower. Not counting the mental aspect.

Kenny probably didn't mind the break. For sure Webb doesn't mind the break. Smile

OwenJakes wrote:

Old? You gotta be kidding me lmao

Yes, Eli is old in mx years. Missing races and almost whole seasons at his age is a big deal. And to be selfish, it's especially sucks for us. Two mx seasons we've missed out on Jett vs Eli. Doubtful he's got anything for Jett jumping into the series for a couple races

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kpiper wrote:
This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are...

This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are old is not good.

It seems this is how all these guys end up. Age makes you break easier and heal slower. Not counting the mental aspect.

Kenny probably didn't mind the break. For sure Webb doesn't mind the break. Smile

OwenJakes wrote:

Old? You gotta be kidding me lmao

TF u think Eli goona be like brady & perform at a elite lvl in his 40s 🤔 he ain’t got much time left on the clock with the pipeline of prospects coming into the 450s with already a jett & a chase to deal with 

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Kenny was riding his road bike, pedaling with one leg a week or two ago. So, he’s probably still out for a bit. 

Which leg?  If it was his bad leg (which I would believe it would be given the exercise and the fact that he was soft walking on it) he’s probably closer than you think. 

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kpiper wrote:
This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are...

This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are old is not good.

It seems this is how all these guys end up. Age makes you break easier and heal slower. Not counting the mental aspect.

Kenny probably didn't mind the break. For sure Webb doesn't mind the break. Smile

OwenJakes wrote:

Old? You gotta be kidding me lmao

Tomac is not old in motocross years to you?

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kpiper wrote:
This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are...

This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are old is not good.

It seems this is how all these guys end up. Age makes you break easier and heal slower. Not counting the mental aspect.

Kenny probably didn't mind the break. For sure Webb doesn't mind the break. Smile

OwenJakes wrote:

Old? You gotta be kidding me lmao

Yes, Eli is old in mx years. Missing races and almost whole seasons at his age is a big deal. And to be selfish, it's especially...

Yes, Eli is old in mx years. Missing races and almost whole seasons at his age is a big deal. And to be selfish, it's especially sucks for us. Two mx seasons we've missed out on Jett vs Eli. Doubtful he's got anything for Jett jumping into the series for a couple races

Agree 100%...it would have been great with Tomac out there! But he won't be in race shape (conditioning or speed) when he comes back. Still will be good to have him there. But he probably won't be happy. Lol.

Maybe he is sandbagging and already riding??? Ha.

6/17/2024 9:09pm
kpiper wrote:
This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are...

This was a BIG setback for Eli. Too bad as he was just getting going. More time off the bike and another injury when you are old is not good.

It seems this is how all these guys end up. Age makes you break easier and heal slower. Not counting the mental aspect.

Kenny probably didn't mind the break. For sure Webb doesn't mind the break. Smile

OwenJakes wrote:

Old? You gotta be kidding me lmao

kpiper wrote:

Tomac is not old in motocross years to you?

"Motocross years" are not a thing. Plenty of elite level athletes in their 30s in sports more physically demanding than Motocross

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OwenJakes wrote:

Old? You gotta be kidding me lmao

kpiper wrote:

Tomac is not old in motocross years to you?

"Motocross years" are not a thing. Plenty of elite level athletes in their 30s in sports more physically demanding than Motocross

It's not the physical age, it's the mental approach, with a few aspects.

Being at the pointy end of professional MX and SX requires a certain level of risk taking.  When you're 20, single and fast those risks seem much more acceptable.  When you are 30, with a family, those risks become decidedly less attractive.

On top of that, a top level rider who is 30 has been grinding with the training etc for at least 15 years.  When you've won a lot and/or know that you probably aren't going to win much more the mental dedication to that process starts becoming harder and harder.

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Ozy wrote:

Anybody know if they are back on the bike yet?

Herr Lich wrote:
Not sure about Kenny and Eli but I know where Webb is.

Not sure about Kenny and Eli but I know where Webb is.

🤣💀

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6/18/2024 3:36am

Kenny was riding his road bike, pedaling with one leg a week or two ago. So, he’s probably still out for a bit. 

brocster wrote:
Which leg?  If it was his bad leg (which I would believe it would be given the exercise and the fact that he was soft walking...

Which leg?  If it was his bad leg (which I would believe it would be given the exercise and the fact that he was soft walking on it) he’s probably closer than you think. 

Ah my mistake. His left was clipped in (injured  side.) I thought it was his right that was injured. 

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6/18/2024 7:37am

Only one of those three that would have actually showed up for all the races if healthy was Tomac.  Hopefully he gets a couple rounds in.  

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6/18/2024 7:54am

"Motocross years" are not a thing. Plenty of elite level athletes in their 30s in sports more physically demanding than Motocross

Please educate us all. I’m curious as to what other sports are more physically demanding than racing professional motocross ? 

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"Motocross years" are not a thing. Plenty of elite level athletes in their 30s in sports more physically demanding than Motocross

Please educate us all. I’m curious as to what other sports are more physically demanding than racing professional motocross ? 

Ballet is tough, from what i hear. 

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KHNC wrote:

Ballet is tough, from what i hear. 

I’m sure it is. But I’m thinking it might not be as tough as racing a 200lb motorcycle. Maybe I’m wrong ? Tongue

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KHNC wrote:

Ballet is tough, from what i hear. 

I’m sure it is. But I’m thinking it might not be as tough as racing a 200lb motorcycle. Maybe I’m wrong ? 

I’m sure it is. But I’m thinking it might not be as tough as racing a 200lb motorcycle. Maybe I’m wrong ? Tongue

The main thing you need for motocross is cardio, which is typically the last athletic trait to decline. It’s why ultra runners can be competitive into their late 40s or 50s. Suggesting a 31 year old Tomac is too old is just ridiculous. There are plenty of elite athletes that age in other sports

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The main thing you need for motocross is cardio, which is typically the last athletic trait to decline. It’s why ultra runners can be competitive into...

The main thing you need for motocross is cardio, which is typically the last athletic trait to decline. It’s why ultra runners can be competitive into their late 40s or 50s. Suggesting a 31 year old Tomac is too old is just ridiculous. There are plenty of elite athletes that age in other sports

I’d imagine you spend a lot of time arguing on Facebook. I don’t do Facebook and I’m not interested in debating with you about it. Most of us who have been riding/racing dirt bikes their whole lives know what it takes. 
There is a reason that 30 years old is the norm for motocross retirement. Add in the injuries that these guys have endured their whole lives racing, what other sport has this ? 
 

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Here to say a big DAMNIT that we were robbed of getting to see ET3 vs Jett outdoors. You got to believe 2023 would have been very different without the achilles injury. 2 years on we may get to see ET3 try for another title next year, but that's a big maybe and no way he's at the same speed he would have been in 2023 coming in off the SX title.

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Ozy wrote:

Anybody know if they are back on the bike yet?

Herr Lich wrote:
Not sure about Kenny and Eli but I know where Webb is.

Not sure about Kenny and Eli but I know where Webb is.

"best off season EVERRRRR" 

 

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"Motocross years" are not a thing. Plenty of elite level athletes in their 30s in sports more physically demanding than Motocross

Please educate us all. I’m curious as to what other sports are more physically demanding than racing professional motocross ? 

Swimming, Skiing, MMA/Grappling/Boxing, Rugby or distance running are also up their (specially endurance wise) on the amateur level, but professional MX riders are freaks man, specially when it comes to longterm damage and injuries. You tell people that have no clue about MX what riders like Forkner, Roczen, Jmart, Herlings etc went through in their careers and they wouldn't believe it.

I still wouldn't call MX riders the "fittest" in the world, but definitely amongst the thoughest, if that makes sense. Also the difference between amateur MX and professional is night n day, even between riders that just qualify for a race and the absolute top guys.

And thanks for specifically pointing out "professional motocross".

 

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6/18/2024 11:41am

"Motocross years" are not a thing. Plenty of elite level athletes in their 30s in sports more physically demanding than Motocross

Please educate us all. I’m curious as to what other sports are more physically demanding than racing professional motocross ? 

Mavetism wrote:
Swimming, Skiing, MMA/Grappling/Boxing, Rugby or distance running are also up their (specially endurance wise) on the amateur level, but professional MX riders are freaks man, specially...

Swimming, Skiing, MMA/Grappling/Boxing, Rugby or distance running are also up their (specially endurance wise) on the amateur level, but professional MX riders are freaks man, specially when it comes to longterm damage and injuries. You tell people that have no clue about MX what riders like Forkner, Roczen, Jmart, Herlings etc went through in their careers and they wouldn't believe it.

I still wouldn't call MX riders the "fittest" in the world, but definitely amongst the thoughest, if that makes sense. Also the difference between amateur MX and professional is night n day, even between riders that just qualify for a race and the absolute top guys.

And thanks for specifically pointing out "professional motocross".

 

I feel tht subject is goona always be opinionated, me & the boiis checked out a recent list & they got sports on there u wouldn’t think be tht physically demanding, I’m like football gotta be top 3 …. nope 😂😂 but yeaaa so far on majority , combat sports ( boxing , mma & wrestling ) is #1 which I don’t disagree 

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KHNC wrote:

Ballet is tough, from what i hear. 

I’m sure it is. But I’m thinking it might not be as tough as racing a 200lb motorcycle. Maybe I’m wrong ? 

I’m sure it is. But I’m thinking it might not be as tough as racing a 200lb motorcycle. Maybe I’m wrong ? Tongue

The main thing you need for motocross is cardio, which is typically the last athletic trait to decline. It’s why ultra runners can be competitive into...

The main thing you need for motocross is cardio, which is typically the last athletic trait to decline. It’s why ultra runners can be competitive into their late 40s or 50s. Suggesting a 31 year old Tomac is too old is just ridiculous. There are plenty of elite athletes that age in other sports

Tomac is too old to be a top 5 contender after missing this much time due to injury. He may get a random top 5, but his MX winning days are likely over. If he can get healthy and be 100% thru SX and roll into MX next year, he may pull off a podium in MX. If he wins again, it will be in SX. 

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6/18/2024 11:46am

Eli's doing great, he invited me to go snipe hunting this weekend.

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Messi is 36 and still playing at a high level.

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Messi is 36 and still playing at a high level.

Almost no danger, vs life on the line when you line up on the gate. Apples to oranges.

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