Triumph Racing and Evan Ferry Part Ways

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5/26/2024 10:15am Edited Date/Time 5/26/2024 10:16am
Regis wrote:
Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it.    Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race...

Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it. 
 

Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race the “other” brands. Maybe going to Loretta’s was a last minute decision to go because everyone knew he needed to be racing. Maybe going to the futures races on “other” brands was to simply get his points so he could be eligible for SX out of necessity.

2nd at the Ironman combine behind Hymas. 2022.  But I’m sure for some reason that doesn’t count as a good result to vital warriors 

Maybe he wanted to race more SX and wasn’t able to. Why does everyone assume he didn’t want to?

the one thing for sure is out of 70 or more people that signed up for Pala, he got behind two gate drops and will go forward.  It’s not like his speed was 37th fastest. Racing circumstances happened and he soldiered on. 

lostboy819 wrote:
Maybe he just doesn't have what it takes, nothing wrong with that as true talent is rare but the excuses you keep making for him are...

Maybe he just doesn't have what it takes, nothing wrong with that as true talent is rare but the excuses you keep making for him are embarrassing.  

I guess we will see. 👊🏼

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5/26/2024 10:42am
Regis wrote:
Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense. Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a...

Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense.

Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a contracted Triumph rider on a Gas Gas (provided by triumph due to bikes not released) as a last minute decision to just get behind a gate at a big race. Where he also dislocated his jaw early in the week.

Basically had a year and a half of riding behind the scenes as his peers were racing and getting race experience. 
 

He’s not only a rookie but one that has the weight of the world on him because of the path that unraveled before him. This is the best of the best and everyone here is acting like he should be compared to the class of kids he graduated Loretta’s with after being absent from racing for a long time due to contractual obligations. 
 

The Triumph deal didn’t work out like both parties likely hoped it would.  It probably sucks for all involved. 
 

He goes to Pala.  Runs right at 20th in the first Moto until going down and bending up the bike a little. He got up, didn’t pull off and got race experience. Second Moto was at the bottom of the first the pile up.  Went to mechanics area got bike fixed and went back out and got more race experience.  he didn’t pull off and he didn’t quite.  He rode every lap he could. Wildkat is where he needs to be.  Let the kid get some gate drops and get back in the groove of not only racing,  but being at the races.  He’s talented, he’s fast and he just needs laps to make up for lost time.  Nothing replaces racing. 
 

Bunch of Monday morning QB’s in here without the ability to actually think and reason. He will be fine and a lot of you haters and finger pointers will quietly go back in the shadows of your dingy basement behind your keyboards until your mom yells “meatloaf” and it’s time for dinner. 
 

 

Meh, he never got inside the top 15 when he was getting gate drops before and at Loretta's. I'll stick with my opinion.

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Regis wrote:
Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense. Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a...

Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense.

Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a contracted Triumph rider on a Gas Gas (provided by triumph due to bikes not released) as a last minute decision to just get behind a gate at a big race. Where he also dislocated his jaw early in the week.

Basically had a year and a half of riding behind the scenes as his peers were racing and getting race experience. 
 

He’s not only a rookie but one that has the weight of the world on him because of the path that unraveled before him. This is the best of the best and everyone here is acting like he should be compared to the class of kids he graduated Loretta’s with after being absent from racing for a long time due to contractual obligations. 
 

The Triumph deal didn’t work out like both parties likely hoped it would.  It probably sucks for all involved. 
 

He goes to Pala.  Runs right at 20th in the first Moto until going down and bending up the bike a little. He got up, didn’t pull off and got race experience. Second Moto was at the bottom of the first the pile up.  Went to mechanics area got bike fixed and went back out and got more race experience.  he didn’t pull off and he didn’t quite.  He rode every lap he could. Wildkat is where he needs to be.  Let the kid get some gate drops and get back in the groove of not only racing,  but being at the races.  He’s talented, he’s fast and he just needs laps to make up for lost time.  Nothing replaces racing. 
 

Bunch of Monday morning QB’s in here without the ability to actually think and reason. He will be fine and a lot of you haters and finger pointers will quietly go back in the shadows of your dingy basement behind your keyboards until your mom yells “meatloaf” and it’s time for dinner. 
 

 

Dude I hate to break it to you but you really are the one lacking the ability to think and be reasonable.  Did you see what place Jett Reynolds got? You want to tell me that kid hasn’t been left behind by his peers because of time off the bike? He still scored points.  There’s some truth that maybe Ferry didn’t have the talent to be on a factory team and being at the test track made that glaringly obvious. 

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Regis wrote:
Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense. Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a...

Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense.

Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a contracted Triumph rider on a Gas Gas (provided by triumph due to bikes not released) as a last minute decision to just get behind a gate at a big race. Where he also dislocated his jaw early in the week.

Basically had a year and a half of riding behind the scenes as his peers were racing and getting race experience. 
 

He’s not only a rookie but one that has the weight of the world on him because of the path that unraveled before him. This is the best of the best and everyone here is acting like he should be compared to the class of kids he graduated Loretta’s with after being absent from racing for a long time due to contractual obligations. 
 

The Triumph deal didn’t work out like both parties likely hoped it would.  It probably sucks for all involved. 
 

He goes to Pala.  Runs right at 20th in the first Moto until going down and bending up the bike a little. He got up, didn’t pull off and got race experience. Second Moto was at the bottom of the first the pile up.  Went to mechanics area got bike fixed and went back out and got more race experience.  he didn’t pull off and he didn’t quite.  He rode every lap he could. Wildkat is where he needs to be.  Let the kid get some gate drops and get back in the groove of not only racing,  but being at the races.  He’s talented, he’s fast and he just needs laps to make up for lost time.  Nothing replaces racing. 
 

Bunch of Monday morning QB’s in here without the ability to actually think and reason. He will be fine and a lot of you haters and finger pointers will quietly go back in the shadows of your dingy basement behind your keyboards until your mom yells “meatloaf” and it’s time for dinner. 
 

 

Love when guys like you come here on the same forum that everyone is using and use the condescending “mom’s basement” claims to try to convince yourself you’re somehow better and that your opinion is somehow more valid than your peers in the same forum. 
 

Newsflash, it’s not. & everyone here can voice their opinion just like you did. Continue in denial while the facts continue to present themselves. 

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5/26/2024 2:26pm
Regis wrote:
Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense. Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a...

Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense.

Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a contracted Triumph rider on a Gas Gas (provided by triumph due to bikes not released) as a last minute decision to just get behind a gate at a big race. Where he also dislocated his jaw early in the week.

Basically had a year and a half of riding behind the scenes as his peers were racing and getting race experience. 
 

He’s not only a rookie but one that has the weight of the world on him because of the path that unraveled before him. This is the best of the best and everyone here is acting like he should be compared to the class of kids he graduated Loretta’s with after being absent from racing for a long time due to contractual obligations. 
 

The Triumph deal didn’t work out like both parties likely hoped it would.  It probably sucks for all involved. 
 

He goes to Pala.  Runs right at 20th in the first Moto until going down and bending up the bike a little. He got up, didn’t pull off and got race experience. Second Moto was at the bottom of the first the pile up.  Went to mechanics area got bike fixed and went back out and got more race experience.  he didn’t pull off and he didn’t quite.  He rode every lap he could. Wildkat is where he needs to be.  Let the kid get some gate drops and get back in the groove of not only racing,  but being at the races.  He’s talented, he’s fast and he just needs laps to make up for lost time.  Nothing replaces racing. 
 

Bunch of Monday morning QB’s in here without the ability to actually think and reason. He will be fine and a lot of you haters and finger pointers will quietly go back in the shadows of your dingy basement behind your keyboards until your mom yells “meatloaf” and it’s time for dinner. 
 

 

Judging by his performances amongst his peers he is neither as fast nor talented as them. In a competitive atmosphere that won't do. There is a lot of blame for his performance on his contractual situation with Triumph, yet he is the one who agreed to those terms. He put himself in that situation. A pro at anything first requirement or task is involving yourself in circumstances where you are most likely to succeed. At this young Mr. Ferry failed.

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5/26/2024 2:41pm Edited Date/Time 5/26/2024 2:44pm
Regis wrote:
Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense. Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a...

Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense.

Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a contracted Triumph rider on a Gas Gas (provided by triumph due to bikes not released) as a last minute decision to just get behind a gate at a big race. Where he also dislocated his jaw early in the week.

Basically had a year and a half of riding behind the scenes as his peers were racing and getting race experience. 
 

He’s not only a rookie but one that has the weight of the world on him because of the path that unraveled before him. This is the best of the best and everyone here is acting like he should be compared to the class of kids he graduated Loretta’s with after being absent from racing for a long time due to contractual obligations. 
 

The Triumph deal didn’t work out like both parties likely hoped it would.  It probably sucks for all involved. 
 

He goes to Pala.  Runs right at 20th in the first Moto until going down and bending up the bike a little. He got up, didn’t pull off and got race experience. Second Moto was at the bottom of the first the pile up.  Went to mechanics area got bike fixed and went back out and got more race experience.  he didn’t pull off and he didn’t quite.  He rode every lap he could. Wildkat is where he needs to be.  Let the kid get some gate drops and get back in the groove of not only racing,  but being at the races.  He’s talented, he’s fast and he just needs laps to make up for lost time.  Nothing replaces racing. 
 

Bunch of Monday morning QB’s in here without the ability to actually think and reason. He will be fine and a lot of you haters and finger pointers will quietly go back in the shadows of your dingy basement behind your keyboards until your mom yells “meatloaf” and it’s time for dinner. 
 

 

...being the adult in the room always gets a lot of hate.

It was one race.

 

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Regis wrote:

Wrong.

yak651 wrote:
Well make it make sense. Why didn’t he race any more of the sx races? Seemed he was riding the gas gas and other bikes while...

Well make it make sense. Why didn’t he race any more of the sx races? Seemed he was riding the gas gas and other bikes while the series was still going so hard to believe injury. Can take your explanation of the crash in both motos but his times in qualifying and motos were way off the pace. He had success on minis but really didn’t have any results after moving up to big bikes in ams. We all like an underdog story, hope he turns it around, but like said above if wasn’t for his last name he would never have these opportunities or talk about him.

Regis wrote:
Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it.    Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race...

Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it. 
 

Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race the “other” brands. Maybe going to Loretta’s was a last minute decision to go because everyone knew he needed to be racing. Maybe going to the futures races on “other” brands was to simply get his points so he could be eligible for SX out of necessity.

2nd at the Ironman combine behind Hymas. 2022.  But I’m sure for some reason that doesn’t count as a good result to vital warriors 

Maybe he wanted to race more SX and wasn’t able to. Why does everyone assume he didn’t want to?

the one thing for sure is out of 70 or more people that signed up for Pala, he got behind two gate drops and will go forward.  It’s not like his speed was 37th fastest. Racing circumstances happened and he soldiered on. 

"it's not like his speed was 37th fastest."

 

Right he was 30th fastest lmao. He's 10 seconds off the leaders every lap. Name one racer that came from that far down to be a top ten guy. You can't. 

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yak651 wrote:
Well make it make sense. Why didn’t he race any more of the sx races? Seemed he was riding the gas gas and other bikes while...

Well make it make sense. Why didn’t he race any more of the sx races? Seemed he was riding the gas gas and other bikes while the series was still going so hard to believe injury. Can take your explanation of the crash in both motos but his times in qualifying and motos were way off the pace. He had success on minis but really didn’t have any results after moving up to big bikes in ams. We all like an underdog story, hope he turns it around, but like said above if wasn’t for his last name he would never have these opportunities or talk about him.

Regis wrote:
Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it.    Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race...

Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it. 
 

Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race the “other” brands. Maybe going to Loretta’s was a last minute decision to go because everyone knew he needed to be racing. Maybe going to the futures races on “other” brands was to simply get his points so he could be eligible for SX out of necessity.

2nd at the Ironman combine behind Hymas. 2022.  But I’m sure for some reason that doesn’t count as a good result to vital warriors 

Maybe he wanted to race more SX and wasn’t able to. Why does everyone assume he didn’t want to?

the one thing for sure is out of 70 or more people that signed up for Pala, he got behind two gate drops and will go forward.  It’s not like his speed was 37th fastest. Racing circumstances happened and he soldiered on. 

150ripper wrote:
"it's not like his speed was 37th fastest."     Right he was 30th fastest lmao. He's 10 seconds off the leaders every lap. Name one...

"it's not like his speed was 37th fastest."

 

Right he was 30th fastest lmao. He's 10 seconds off the leaders every lap. Name one racer that came from that far down to be a top ten guy. You can't. 

Langston on Whiskey Throttle said he wasn't qualifying when he was first in GPs so I guess maybe there is hope for little red dog

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Regis wrote:
Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it.    Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race...

Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it. 
 

Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race the “other” brands. Maybe going to Loretta’s was a last minute decision to go because everyone knew he needed to be racing. Maybe going to the futures races on “other” brands was to simply get his points so he could be eligible for SX out of necessity.

2nd at the Ironman combine behind Hymas. 2022.  But I’m sure for some reason that doesn’t count as a good result to vital warriors 

Maybe he wanted to race more SX and wasn’t able to. Why does everyone assume he didn’t want to?

the one thing for sure is out of 70 or more people that signed up for Pala, he got behind two gate drops and will go forward.  It’s not like his speed was 37th fastest. Racing circumstances happened and he soldiered on. 

150ripper wrote:
"it's not like his speed was 37th fastest."     Right he was 30th fastest lmao. He's 10 seconds off the leaders every lap. Name one...

"it's not like his speed was 37th fastest."

 

Right he was 30th fastest lmao. He's 10 seconds off the leaders every lap. Name one racer that came from that far down to be a top ten guy. You can't. 

yak651 wrote:

Langston on Whiskey Throttle said he wasn't qualifying when he was first in GPs so I guess maybe there is hope for little red dog

GL also had a dad who sold everything they had to get there and told GL if he wanted to quit that they had no home to go back to!! GL had that pressure on him at 15 years old, I doubt Evan has that kind of pressure on him. 

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Yeah... this definitely didn't help.  Some of you are old enough to remember how his Dad's career started.  He was also on struggling low budget privateer...

Yeah... this definitely didn't help.  Some of you are old enough to remember how his Dad's career started.  He was also on struggling low budget privateer deals and eventually worked his way up to the factory elite level.


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So he decided to do it backwards?

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Or know enough about looking at the big picture of this sport and able to connect some dots on how gnarly it is.    And yes...

Or know enough about looking at the big picture of this sport and able to connect some dots on how gnarly it is. 
 

And yes, I love the kid and family. Good people.

The sport is gnarly, you are only as good as your last race. 

Circumstances aside, he was poised to be (at the very least) a top 10 rider in the 250 class, got a factory ride and it didn’t...

Circumstances aside, he was poised to be (at the very least) a top 10 rider in the 250 class, got a factory ride and it didn’t work out. You and I may think his performance at Pala was fine considering the circumstances but you’re not going to convince the masses when this sport continues to be more secretive than the FBI and doesn’t release information, leaving all of us to just speculate. I genuinely think he will turn it around this outdoor season and get some points if he stays healthy but if he thought testing for a factory team was difficult, he is going to be very humbled this summer. 

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I can agree with most of this. He will have the microscope on him and the ridicule will still come without results. I’m of the opinion...

I can agree with most of this. He will have the microscope on him and the ridicule will still come without results. I’m of the opinion the results will come. He will have consistency in his program and the finishes will get better.

 


 

He threw away a factory ride because he couldn't post on IG and they allegedly didn't have parts blah blah.  Now he finished basically last two motos in a row.  Clearly he is not ready for the show and was getting worked by the Swoll and Savtagy at the practice track.  We don't need to "give him a break" or whatever excuses you made for him, because he is lining up in the pro class.  Maybe he needs to take a year to get ready, race another year of amateurs, or try arena cross.  Then return when he is ready to race at this pace.

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Regis wrote:
Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it.    Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race...

Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it. 
 

Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race the “other” brands. Maybe going to Loretta’s was a last minute decision to go because everyone knew he needed to be racing. Maybe going to the futures races on “other” brands was to simply get his points so he could be eligible for SX out of necessity.

2nd at the Ironman combine behind Hymas. 2022.  But I’m sure for some reason that doesn’t count as a good result to vital warriors 

Maybe he wanted to race more SX and wasn’t able to. Why does everyone assume he didn’t want to?

the one thing for sure is out of 70 or more people that signed up for Pala, he got behind two gate drops and will go forward.  It’s not like his speed was 37th fastest. Racing circumstances happened and he soldiered on. 

lostboy819 wrote:
Maybe he just doesn't have what it takes, nothing wrong with that as true talent is rare but the excuses you keep making for him are...

Maybe he just doesn't have what it takes, nothing wrong with that as true talent is rare but the excuses you keep making for him are embarrassing.  

Regis wrote:

I guess we will see. 👊🏼

We HAVE been seeing and it doesn't look promisingShocked

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5/26/2024 7:10pm Edited Date/Time 5/26/2024 7:12pm

I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify and maybe I could work myself up to being a 20-30th place guy..

A close friend of mine with very similar speed made it into a National, I was planning to try for one later in the year.. he got the 39th position, the difference in lap times between him and the top guys was a lot, and he was just an obstacle for everyone to pass, it was at that moment I knew I wasn’t good enough for what I wanted..

I was a fast local guy, but have been passed by guys like RV like I was going in the opposite direction, I can’t understand how they go so fast. Learning to go that speed or anywhere close to that was going to be impossible.

If Ferry is running around in that spot, yet had a factory Triumph deal, that blows me away that he left the team knowing how far off the pace he actually is. If it was me given the factory treatment, there isn’t a chance in hell I’m leaving..

I would more likely say they realised around the time of outdoor testing that ferry was sooo far off, they cut him because it’s a terrible look for Triumph to be barely qualifying..

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I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify...

I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify and maybe I could work myself up to being a 20-30th place guy..

A close friend of mine with very similar speed made it into a National, I was planning to try for one later in the year.. he got the 39th position, the difference in lap times between him and the top guys was a lot, and he was just an obstacle for everyone to pass, it was at that moment I knew I wasn’t good enough for what I wanted..

I was a fast local guy, but have been passed by guys like RV like I was going in the opposite direction, I can’t understand how they go so fast. Learning to go that speed or anywhere close to that was going to be impossible.

If Ferry is running around in that spot, yet had a factory Triumph deal, that blows me away that he left the team knowing how far off the pace he actually is. If it was me given the factory treatment, there isn’t a chance in hell I’m leaving..

I would more likely say they realised around the time of outdoor testing that ferry was sooo far off, they cut him because it’s a terrible look for Triumph to be barely qualifying..

I agree.  I think he was way off the pace of Savatgy and Swoll and they had to have a conversation......and agreed to amicably part ways mutually.  If Evan would have just said that on Pulp instead of IG banger BS or other "team issues", he would have saved some face.

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I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify...

I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify and maybe I could work myself up to being a 20-30th place guy..

A close friend of mine with very similar speed made it into a National, I was planning to try for one later in the year.. he got the 39th position, the difference in lap times between him and the top guys was a lot, and he was just an obstacle for everyone to pass, it was at that moment I knew I wasn’t good enough for what I wanted..

I was a fast local guy, but have been passed by guys like RV like I was going in the opposite direction, I can’t understand how they go so fast. Learning to go that speed or anywhere close to that was going to be impossible.

If Ferry is running around in that spot, yet had a factory Triumph deal, that blows me away that he left the team knowing how far off the pace he actually is. If it was me given the factory treatment, there isn’t a chance in hell I’m leaving..

I would more likely say they realised around the time of outdoor testing that ferry was sooo far off, they cut him because it’s a terrible look for Triumph to be barely qualifying..

I’m thinking we are all missing the real story. Which is out of respect for his dad they kindly told him to quit to save face. Nothing wrong with not being a top guy.  Who knows I could be wrong.

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I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify...

I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify and maybe I could work myself up to being a 20-30th place guy..

A close friend of mine with very similar speed made it into a National, I was planning to try for one later in the year.. he got the 39th position, the difference in lap times between him and the top guys was a lot, and he was just an obstacle for everyone to pass, it was at that moment I knew I wasn’t good enough for what I wanted..

I was a fast local guy, but have been passed by guys like RV like I was going in the opposite direction, I can’t understand how they go so fast. Learning to go that speed or anywhere close to that was going to be impossible.

If Ferry is running around in that spot, yet had a factory Triumph deal, that blows me away that he left the team knowing how far off the pace he actually is. If it was me given the factory treatment, there isn’t a chance in hell I’m leaving..

I would more likely say they realised around the time of outdoor testing that ferry was sooo far off, they cut him because it’s a terrible look for Triumph to be barely qualifying..

Good read…. Similar story for me.  I ran the qualifier’s at Hangtown twice.  Really lacked the speed in 1980 and was in a qualifying spot in ‘81 when I lost a water pump on the RM125x…. Good local pro, but the fast guys are on a completely different level.  
 

Back on topic, does Ferry score any points over the next couple weeks?

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I'm ignorant on this team he is on.   Is the bike capable?  Everyone knows the 250 class is not the place to be on an underpowered bike.

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I'm ignorant on this team he is on.   Is the bike capable?  Everyone knows the 250 class is not the place to be on an underpowered...

I'm ignorant on this team he is on.   Is the bike capable?  Everyone knows the 250 class is not the place to be on an underpowered bike.

It’s NOT the bike…

but with all the heat he got for parting ways with Triumph, it would have been interesting to see what some people in here would said if he rolled in at the same spot on a factory bike.

 

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Gotta love when people propose an opinion, convince themselves of it, and then present it as fact. Sometimes in the span of 2 sentences, that is some skill.

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I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify...

I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify and maybe I could work myself up to being a 20-30th place guy..

A close friend of mine with very similar speed made it into a National, I was planning to try for one later in the year.. he got the 39th position, the difference in lap times between him and the top guys was a lot, and he was just an obstacle for everyone to pass, it was at that moment I knew I wasn’t good enough for what I wanted..

I was a fast local guy, but have been passed by guys like RV like I was going in the opposite direction, I can’t understand how they go so fast. Learning to go that speed or anywhere close to that was going to be impossible.

If Ferry is running around in that spot, yet had a factory Triumph deal, that blows me away that he left the team knowing how far off the pace he actually is. If it was me given the factory treatment, there isn’t a chance in hell I’m leaving..

I would more likely say they realised around the time of outdoor testing that ferry was sooo far off, they cut him because it’s a terrible look for Triumph to be barely qualifying..

I agree.  I think he was way off the pace of Savatgy and Swoll and they had to have a conversation......and agreed to amicably part ways...

I agree.  I think he was way off the pace of Savatgy and Swoll and they had to have a conversation......and agreed to amicably part ways mutually.  If Evan would have just said that on Pulp instead of IG banger BS or other "team issues", he would have saved some face.

This is where I’m at, also.

Let’s see how he does over the next few weeks…and hopefully he stays off the ground. 

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Give him a few more races before telling him to hang the boots up. Jesus. 

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USA wrote:
Gotta love when people propose an opinion, convince themselves of it, and then present it as fact. Sometimes in the span of 2 sentences, that is...

Gotta love when people propose an opinion, convince themselves of it, and then present it as fact. Sometimes in the span of 2 sentences, that is some skill.

Vital's gonna Vital

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Put RJ and the full PC squad in and does he even qualify?

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Isn't this all a wee bit the fault of Matthes soft balls towards his best friends kid? And after that "interview" he all made the move "understandable" and "clear" for us idiots by implying that Triumph has no parts and was run poorly. Now we "normal idiots" see bikes being delivered at dealerships and the poorly run team is scoring more than decent results for a "rookie team". The only bad thing that I've heard is that the 450cc engine/frame is behind on schedule.

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I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify...

I always dreamed of being a pro racer and racing some nationals, I know being a top guy was unrealistic, but my dream was to qualify and maybe I could work myself up to being a 20-30th place guy..

A close friend of mine with very similar speed made it into a National, I was planning to try for one later in the year.. he got the 39th position, the difference in lap times between him and the top guys was a lot, and he was just an obstacle for everyone to pass, it was at that moment I knew I wasn’t good enough for what I wanted..

I was a fast local guy, but have been passed by guys like RV like I was going in the opposite direction, I can’t understand how they go so fast. Learning to go that speed or anywhere close to that was going to be impossible.

If Ferry is running around in that spot, yet had a factory Triumph deal, that blows me away that he left the team knowing how far off the pace he actually is. If it was me given the factory treatment, there isn’t a chance in hell I’m leaving..

I would more likely say they realised around the time of outdoor testing that ferry was sooo far off, they cut him because it’s a terrible look for Triumph to be barely qualifying..

I’m thinking we are all missing the real story. Which is out of respect for his dad they kindly told him to quit to save face...

I’m thinking we are all missing the real story. Which is out of respect for his dad they kindly told him to quit to save face. Nothing wrong with not being a top guy.  Who knows I could be wrong.

This would make sense. Would be a bad look for a brand new team to have someone not qualify because they weren't fast enough. 

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Well make it make sense. Why didn’t he race any more of the sx races? Seemed he was riding the gas gas and other bikes while...

Well make it make sense. Why didn’t he race any more of the sx races? Seemed he was riding the gas gas and other bikes while the series was still going so hard to believe injury. Can take your explanation of the crash in both motos but his times in qualifying and motos were way off the pace. He had success on minis but really didn’t have any results after moving up to big bikes in ams. We all like an underdog story, hope he turns it around, but like said above if wasn’t for his last name he would never have these opportunities or talk about him.

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Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it.    Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race...

Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it. 
 

Maybe his contractual obligation  didn’t allow him to race the “other” brands. Maybe going to Loretta’s was a last minute decision to go because everyone knew he needed to be racing. Maybe going to the futures races on “other” brands was to simply get his points so he could be eligible for SX out of necessity.

2nd at the Ironman combine behind Hymas. 2022.  But I’m sure for some reason that doesn’t count as a good result to vital warriors 

Maybe he wanted to race more SX and wasn’t able to. Why does everyone assume he didn’t want to?

the one thing for sure is out of 70 or more people that signed up for Pala, he got behind two gate drops and will go forward.  It’s not like his speed was 37th fastest. Racing circumstances happened and he soldiered on. 

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"it's not like his speed was 37th fastest."     Right he was 30th fastest lmao. He's 10 seconds off the leaders every lap. Name one...

"it's not like his speed was 37th fastest."

 

Right he was 30th fastest lmao. He's 10 seconds off the leaders every lap. Name one racer that came from that far down to be a top ten guy. You can't. 

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Regis, why did they part ways with Triumph? Give us the backstory if you're going to scold everyone for calling out a spade. 

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MXMattii wrote:
Isn't this all a wee bit the fault of Matthes soft balls towards his best friends kid? And after that "interview" he all made the move...

Isn't this all a wee bit the fault of Matthes soft balls towards his best friends kid? And after that "interview" he all made the move "understandable" and "clear" for us idiots by implying that Triumph has no parts and was run poorly. Now we "normal idiots" see bikes being delivered at dealerships and the poorly run team is scoring more than decent results for a "rookie team". The only bad thing that I've heard is that the 450cc engine/frame is behind on schedule.

Exactly, Triumph's effort has looked pretty good despite how shitty Matthes insists that it is. Perhaps his insistence is based on the Ferry family perspective. Reading between the lines, because nobody tells the complete story, it appears Triumph didn't give as much effort or support to Ferry because he wasn't putting in the effort or had the pace of Swoll and Savatgy. I think everybody needs to be clear as well that the speed of a person on a motorcycle is in no way a statement of the quality of the individual. Young Mr. Ferry could very well be a great kid with a bright future, who happens to not have national caliber level speed. Nothing wrong with that.

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MXMattii wrote:
Isn't this all a wee bit the fault of Matthes soft balls towards his best friends kid? And after that "interview" he all made the move...

Isn't this all a wee bit the fault of Matthes soft balls towards his best friends kid? And after that "interview" he all made the move "understandable" and "clear" for us idiots by implying that Triumph has no parts and was run poorly. Now we "normal idiots" see bikes being delivered at dealerships and the poorly run team is scoring more than decent results for a "rookie team". The only bad thing that I've heard is that the 450cc engine/frame is behind on schedule.

Spoonguy wrote:
Exactly, Triumph's effort has looked pretty good despite how shitty Matthes insists that it is. Perhaps his insistence is based on the Ferry family perspective. Reading...

Exactly, Triumph's effort has looked pretty good despite how shitty Matthes insists that it is. Perhaps his insistence is based on the Ferry family perspective. Reading between the lines, because nobody tells the complete story, it appears Triumph didn't give as much effort or support to Ferry because he wasn't putting in the effort or had the pace of Swoll and Savatgy. I think everybody needs to be clear as well that the speed of a person on a motorcycle is in no way a statement of the quality of the individual. Young Mr. Ferry could very well be a great kid with a bright future, who happens to not have national caliber level speed. Nothing wrong with that.

I get you are talking about the interview, but Steve has not said Triumph is doing shitty in any way, actually quite the opposite.  The Brand is absolutely crushing it for being a brand new platform.  

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Riders can progress as pros. Some just a little, and some a lot. Deegan progressed a lot since his SX Futures race where he rode wild and unrefined. Plus he simply didn't have the speed. 

Ferry is different for sure. But I'm taking a patient outlook on him. I actually want him to succeed, and hope he can have good luck as well. I'll wait and reserve judgement until the season is done. 

I find it way to harsh how some on here have bashed him. As a father myself, I'm sure some of what's been written here would be hurtful to Tim and his wife. People are way too judge mental on a young guy just starting out in the pros in an extremely hard sport.

 

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