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I have no reason to like or not like Ferry, never met him and don't follow the amateur stuff much. I have to say though from the outside looking in he and whoever is guiding him (his Dad for sure, not sure about anyone else) the optics are pretty piss poor. Not sure if he or they think he's better than he actually is or are trying to use his Dad's name to get superior treatment but this whole thing has been a mess. I can understand needing more time on a different bike to work on settings and get comfortable but goddamn his results today were absolute dogshit. There's guys working regular jobs during the week kicking his ass on a bike no better than his and likely much worse.
Maybe racing just isn't in the cards for him. Not going to retire off instabangers doing the same shit a bunch of other people are doing. If he wants any sort of career in the MX industry aside from racing he should be very careful about the bridges he's burning and the reputation he's building. Hell, maybe he just truly doesn't have the heart and desire to be a pro racer. Maybe he only got into this because of his Dad. I hope he finds some sort of direction before something really bad happens like a life altering injury. You can't half-ass MX when making it a career, it's far too dangerous and just making yourself miserable. Hopefully he has a decent education or labor skills otherwise he's screwed.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned this " Hell, maybe he just truly doesn't have the heart and desire to be a pro racer. "
I've seen it happen before. The kid would actually like to be doing something else with his life.
Perhaps he left Triumph because testing showed how far he was away and ruined him mentally- Wildcat still gives him the inferior equipment excuse to hide behind while he figures it out.
“I can understand needing more time on a different bike to work on settings and get comfortable but goddamn his results today were absolute dogshit.“
That might be an excuse if a guy with - literally - one day on not only a new bike, but a different displacement didn’t smoke him. I think your assessment that he’s just not in to it is probably more accurate.
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He just ain’t that good. Would have looked terrible for both parties if he did that in a triumph. He’s obviously been wayyy off the pace of his team mates for some time.
He had been testing with Savagty & Swoll for months. Based on his speed , he’s probably been 5-10 seconds a lap off their pace the entire time.
I wonder if it got to a point where they just cut their losses and clipped him.
I would be surprised if he scores any points this year. The Top 20 in the current 250 class is no joke. Could be a good learning year for him though.
Numbers don’t lie, 12 seconds a lap off the leader’s pace in both Moto’s.
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iI knew he'd struggle in SX just based off his futures results or lack there of, however I would've guess he'd be at least flirting with getting points. 37th is absolutely insane. After today I'm guessing Triumph dropped him from SX simply because his pace wasn't there and that's a bad look for a new manufacturer. At least they were nice enough to make it look like it was amicable or his decision. Besides winning MEC on the supermini, he never really did anything before or after, not sure what they were expecting from him.
Let’s be real, if he didn’t have his last name, we wouldn’t even be talking about him. He’s had one top 5 since his 250 career began. Every other result (minus SLC 2023, 7th, East Rutherford 2023, 10th) is outside the top 20.
Lots of ignorance and jumping on the hate bandwagon without common sense.
Hasn’t had a gate drop since Loretta’s last year where he went as a contracted Triumph rider on a Gas Gas (provided by triumph due to bikes not released) as a last minute decision to just get behind a gate at a big race. Where he also dislocated his jaw early in the week.
Basically had a year and a half of riding behind the scenes as his peers were racing and getting race experience.
He’s not only a rookie but one that has the weight of the world on him because of the path that unraveled before him. This is the best of the best and everyone here is acting like he should be compared to the class of kids he graduated Loretta’s with after being absent from racing for a long time due to contractual obligations.
The Triumph deal didn’t work out like both parties likely hoped it would. It probably sucks for all involved.
He goes to Pala. Runs right at 20th in the first Moto until going down and bending up the bike a little. He got up, didn’t pull off and got race experience. Second Moto was at the bottom of the first the pile up. Went to mechanics area got bike fixed and went back out and got more race experience. he didn’t pull off and he didn’t quite. He rode every lap he could. Wildkat is where he needs to be. Let the kid get some gate drops and get back in the groove of not only racing, but being at the races. He’s talented, he’s fast and he just needs laps to make up for lost time. Nothing replaces racing.
Bunch of Monday morning QB’s in here without the ability to actually think and reason. He will be fine and a lot of you haters and finger pointers will quietly go back in the shadows of your dingy basement behind your keyboards until your mom yells “meatloaf” and it’s time for dinner.
Wrong.
Well make it make sense. Why didn’t he race any more of the sx races? Seemed he was riding the gas gas and other bikes while the series was still going so hard to believe injury. Can take your explanation of the crash in both motos but his times in qualifying and motos were way off the pace. He had success on minis but really didn’t have any results after moving up to big bikes in ams. We all like an underdog story, hope he turns it around, but like said above if wasn’t for his last name he would never have these opportunities or talk about him.
That’s a passionate defense, counsel. It’s almost like you know the kid…. 😎
Yeah, I think you can make it make sense too if you actually thought about it.
Maybe his contractual obligation didn’t allow him to race the “other” brands. Maybe going to Loretta’s was a last minute decision to go because everyone knew he needed to be racing. Maybe going to the futures races on “other” brands was to simply get his points so he could be eligible for SX out of necessity.
2nd at the Ironman combine behind Hymas. 2022. But I’m sure for some reason that doesn’t count as a good result to vital warriors
Maybe he wanted to race more SX and wasn’t able to. Why does everyone assume he didn’t want to?
the one thing for sure is out of 70 or more people that signed up for Pala, he got behind two gate drops and will go forward. It’s not like his speed was 37th fastest. Racing circumstances happened and he soldiered on.
Or know enough about looking at the big picture of this sport and able to connect some dots on how gnarly it is.
And yes, I love the kid and family. Good people.
The sport is gnarly, you are only as good as your last race.
Circumstances aside, he was poised to be (at the very least) a top 10 rider in the 250 class, got a factory ride and it didn’t work out. You and I may think his performance at Pala was fine considering the circumstances but you’re not going to convince the masses when this sport continues to be more secretive than the FBI and doesn’t release information, leaving all of us to just speculate. I genuinely think he will turn it around this outdoor season and get some points if he stays healthy but if he thought testing for a factory team was difficult, he is going to be very humbled this summer.
I can agree with most of this. He will have the microscope on him and the ridicule will still come without results. I’m of the opinion the results will come. He will have consistency in his program and the finishes will get better.
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12 seconds a lap slower, but also so inconsistent. The variation in Ferry's lap times is massive. Deegan is mega consistent.
Ferry just rode tight, the pressure from the opening round is tough if you have never done it before.
Expectations from family, friends, fans, and sponsors is a heavy load for anyone.
he will get better in the coming weeks.
Comparing the most highly touted US prospect since maybe AC who has raced 15 outdoes already to a guy who hasn’t completed a single professional race 🤦🏼
You make it sound like Ferry is some random kid. He was on a factory team until a couple of months ago. He shouldn't have 4 seconds variation per lap. Hopefully it's growing pains and we see him improve. Can't get much worse!
I think it’s difficult to have any perspective other than he under performed…
How can anyone think Ferry should be getting 37th overall while Mark Fineis is going P12 and scoring 19 points???
The top 20 is tough and missing 3 good PC guys. I never heard of the team he's on, did he really think he would be better off there? I think it was all he could find.
I saw Swap's interview with Mark and had to look up who he is. What a solid ride! Club MX looks like such a great team and atmosphere to be a part of
Yaa he’s not fast enough. The team probably thought he would have progressed and been better than he actually was entering this year. Maybe they thought he’d be on Swolls level and it just never happened.
Yeah... this definitely didn't help. Some of you are old enough to remember how his Dad's career started. He was also on struggling low budget privateer deals and eventually worked his way up to the factory elite level.
Maybe he just doesn't have what it takes, nothing wrong with that as true talent is rare but the excuses you keep making for him are embarrassing.
I thought Ferry's times were from the sighting lap not his race times
( just a bad joke) so put away the pitch forks
When he was on the Pulp show they said when he races he has to show up and lay down some results or at least show some speed, this wasn’t it, he only made the top 36 by one second, he just doesn’t have it. He should start practicing for arenacross.
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