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I do think it will draw a smaller crowd, as the casual fans don't follow the GP riders at all. Hopefully a lot of motodads bring their children to this and expose them to the other world of Motocross, just like my dad did taking me to the USGP in Carlsbad back in the day.
i still have the april fools thing in mind........but if it does happen then i am sure that even if at first the atendence and hype cold not be a blast, for sre that all the real mx fans that go will enjoy 2 days of hard racing, 6 35+2 motos, lots of unknown riders ridding good and a lot of one of a kind "works" bikes and will have a great mx weekend..........
and with the anouncement in the YS pr that the 2012 mxdn might be there also, i guess that even the most patriotic mx fans that i see here, will like to go to a one off race one a year at glen helen.......
if ther was a way for YS to have an usgp........this is the one for sure
still theres that april fools thing...........that i'm not over it yet......!!!!!!!!!!!!
time will tell I suppose
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As far as crowd goes my guess is we'll see between 20-30,000 people there.
Yeah its all their fault.
More of the AMA regulars will probably race the warm up race the week before Hangtown than the GP with al the sign up rules / regulations etc etc. I bet we can count the US regulars racing the USGP on one hand.
Glen Helen will have a great GP.
I don't see a lot of top US Nationals teams putting their riders at risk, and having them there would complicate things for the GP regulars. But who knows at this point.
So, it can be a pretty cool event ~ more MX is always better than less ~ but
With all due respect, do you really think the operations people at GH are some type of idiots?
You and I have absolutely no idea which one is harder to work with.
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and why the fuck would a national rider race a one off world title race in between nats?
I tend to think it's a golden opportunity for US riders. I could be wrong. Hope we see a lot of the top US guys in the race.
Attendance? I think it will be as big as if it were a National if not bigger. As long as YS doesn't screw it up.
On the money side, I think YS gave this one away in comparison to their usual fees.
Brett Lee, are you listening??? Oh wait, Walton is CMRC country and Brett is a CMRC director.
That's what I was thinking. My guess is YS has been falling over themselves to race a GP at Glen Helen. I can't wait to see the GP guys race that track with, or without, the top US guys racing.
Hence the 5 -year deal and the MXDN option thrown in somewhere (I'm pretty sure Y/S gives the GP to GH at no cost this time).
It will be a very difficult operation this time, for all parties, but by giving themselves time, they play it smart.
Main problems for this edition :
- GP teams logistics.
When Y/S used to compensate the teams for that, it was an estimated 6K€ per rider ($8,1K). Y/S has quit compensating the teams last year and it was quite a controversial move. Now, adding one "overseas" event with such short notice and logistical nightmare (French GP the week after USGP!!) will be a tough sale to those teams... unless Y/S or GH pays for that, which would create a precedent. Do the math : if they have to bring top 10 of each class, that's a $160K cost ($240K for top 15). Who will pay for that bill is the key for year 1 of the deal.
- US riders participants.
Unless he has a LOT of political leverage (thru the factories in Japan), which I doubt, I don't see Luongo in a position to trigger the US-based factory teams to participate. Some riders in danger to lose their ride might be interested but, by definition, won't be in a position to ask their team to accomodate the necessary logistics between two Nationals.
One HUGE exception though : there seems to be a golden (and lucky) opportunity to attract Stewart / L&M, which would create a big enough buzz to mask the no-shows from Nationals regulars.
And as the GH GP sets in the calendar in the years to come, participation of top US riders will get better (same scenario as with the US Open)...
- Filling the gates.
Even if you have 10 (or 15?) Euro riders there + Bubba, you still need to fill in the gate. At $1350 the entry and no purse, how many will go for it and how good those racers will be ?
If Y/S - GH somehow change that rule, again, this would create a precedent that Y/S would have to deal with, later on.
- Spectators.
This is where the 5-year deal helps. One can expect a not-so-good to maybe bad turnout this time.
Not such a bid deal if you look at the big picture and, say, the MXDN at GH in 2012 or 2013.
I say GH and Luongo win round 1 hands-down, round 2 (race day) may be more difficult for them but they can expect more good rounds after.
As far as MX Sports, unless they have hidden cards that we can't think of right now, it looks as they have been taken way off-guard by that one.
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