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They didn't laugh at JoJo Keller when he was kicking ass and he was a tad on the large side.
MX317, Even if they were laughing at JoJo, he wouldn’t know, because they all were behind him !
Totally on board with a track owner or promoter charging riders what they need to, to make it worthwhile. It's a business and you can't just do it for the love, sadly.
That said, as far as practice days go it seems a bit cheeky charging spectators. For races, if it's a local race it's gotta be a pretty small token payment to just stand by your track.
A buddy or girlfriend at the track with a paying rider just feels like it should be included.
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Imagine wanting to hit a practice day and being the wife and three kids. $100 just to go through the gate. That makes things a lot less fun. $5 a head to just be there is reasonable. But $20 pp to bring family is crazy.
I get for a race weekend. But for a 4-6 hour practice that’s insane.
$50 each for a practice day is just fine with today's inflated dollar and fuel prices.
Spectator entry fees on a practice day are bad for the sport.
Mom has to pay an extra $20 to go to the local track to bring little Johnny and his PW50 to the track to rip around on Wednesday night... I don't need to have kids to know this is a short-sighted idea.
Fuck that!
I think it’s funny when the local promoters get the idea that “we’ll just start charging the people who already support us more money, that’ll solve everything!” without giving anything in return(like more riding time, or a better track, better facilities, etc.) So over the years I’ve learned little tricks to combat this. Here’s 2 pro tips.
Hide your “spectators” under clothes and blankets. No one is gonna check wristbands once you get through that gate.
Just go out for op if it’s the day before the race. If you get questioned at any point getting on the track, just say “I thought practice was included with racing” and then ride back to your pit and be satisfied with whatever free laps you did get!
so you are no different than the pieces of shit who shoplift, dine and dash, or steal bikes?
you think you are above paying for something, so you just take it.
while those like you think it is all about money you are bringing people into a facility that everyone else signs a release to enter and ride at, and then scum like you are exactly the type that will blame everybody else when you miss a gear on a jump and sue the track.
please choke on a chicken bone.
If the track owner is being greedy and charging too much, why dont yall open up a track down the road thats just as nice, but charge less. Everyone will come ride your place. You'll drive him out of business and youll make a bunch of $.
Whats that?
You dont have the money to make the down payment on the land?
You wouldnt make enough from the track to pay the monthly loan payment?
You dont have enough to buy hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and would never get a return on your investment?
Diesel prices would cut into your profit?
Youd make more at the end of the day having a salaried job with a corporation than what you would take home running a track?
You would get tired of putting your heart into the track only to have guys that show up once every other month blast you on the internet for the opposite of what another guy complained about the week before?
Ok, nevermind.
Seems oblivious to increased labor, fuel, taxes and equipment costs. If you are dealing with legal fees pound salt I guess. Damn if you don't let me ride your track for what I say.
I love when people complain about track time, like they don't ride 3 laps and then head back to the truck each session anyway
I have watched people come in as spectators get dressed and going out and riding while their buddy watched.
they are the problem.
I will say it again.....
The practice the op is talking about was the first day of a 2 day weekend.
Unless you clear the pits and send everybody home after the first day it only makes sense to sell them a weekend ticket.
Normally if the person is not staying for the second day and the leave shortly after the Saturday practice is over they get a partial refund.
So it is not $20 for a day per person.
As far as charging spectators. The track owner needs to make X amount to cover Portalets/restrooms, trash, clean up, facility up keep, gravel for access, and improvements, as well as make a reasonable profit for their time, effort, and risk.
Whether they get it from a combination or rider fees only, the total is going to be about the same.
If you are going to bring a bunch of people with you who are going to use the facilities, even if they are not riding, shouldn't they pay something?
You can Add in your list insurance to cover the spectators too
Details like this are important. Big difference between paying $20 for 1 day , and $20 for the weekend.
Who would think that a gate fee was per vehicle? Unless maybe the track has charged that way before, that is an odd assumption by the OP.
It sounds more reasonable after knowing the details. Opening days are never going to provide a lot of track time.
The first time Southwick had one that I went to, people waited 4 hours to do 2 laps. There was an insane amount of riders there. And I was just watching since I figured it would be like that.
For a track to stay open, they need to charge whatever they need to, for it to be worth doing. It is hard work, and no matter what, You will always have people complaining. It can be a very thankless job.
...I'm in the arsehole of Africa and the challenges of living..covering rent and eating properly is first prize. I'd love to ride a bike once a month on any track but I can't afford it....I can't afford to buy and maintain a bike for starters...
If you own a bike then wonderful...pay the fee to enter a track to spin a few laps. The track owners are doing their best to keep it affordable...
Riding a mx bike has become luxury.......
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Used to be 30 bucks for an OP, and if you were leaving saturday after OP by say 5PM, you would be refunded your gate fee, for both you and anybody who came with you.
Now, its 15$ to get in to cover the gate fee for me, 15$ to cover the gate fee for my wife to come sit there for the day with me, 30$ to ride, and There is no refund for the gate fee if i'm leaving and not coming back on sunday to race. So what was once 30 is now 60 bucks. To ride generally 3 maybe 4 15 minute motos.
I totally get it there is a cost associated with having spectators at the track - They use the porta johns ect ect. So I get not letting spectators on practice days for free. BUT if you're going to charge 15 bucks, give 5 or 10 of it back if you are not returning the next day.
You could get back $5 per person if you didn’t come back
If I bring my chick golfing with me they don’t charge her $20 to sit in the cart
If they don’t make money they will sell it to a developer for construction…….
You could always tell her they do to get a little more "you" time....
No way bro, gotta show off my 65 yard drives
By the looks of all the build up around there, that day is coming.......
First it will be the mcmansions bitching.....
I just purchased my own 50 acres 9 years ago & built my own place to ride & the crazy thing is i have since purchased 2-tractors-dozer-mini excavator & i keep it maintained by myself & still ride and operate my 37 yr old non-franchised cycle store & i don't charge my friends & customers anything to ride/practice i set it up like Pastrana's place with the trees to keep the moisture & help the dirt. Heck that's what i do in time out
Running a track is expensive.
Local track charges $35 a person to ride, no spectator charge. I get more riding than I can handle, even if they split up classes.
Next closest tack is $40 a person and $10 for spectators.
For 24 minutes?
9/10 tracks I go to charge $20 a head at the gate for practice.
you have 10k in the back of the truck but bitch about $20. Go buy 10 acres, a dozer, water truck, and insurance and tell me $20 is expensive
I would pay more money for a better product. Give me a better organized race day slightly catered to people with jobs, and I will pay more.
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