New 2023 YZ450F

3/28/2024 12:10am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

Crash82 wrote:
I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating...

I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating me like a jack hammer.  So I recently upgraded to the Guts wide seat soft foam and added 14mm to the height. It's a different bike I can sit down most anywhere, it feels so much more plush. It is amazing to me. My suspension feels insanely better. I'm 60 years though. If i had a choice of the Yoshi, Enzo or the Guts wide seat you can straight up only choose one. Guts seat foam upgrade all day long. The seat ruins this bike. I never would have thought it affected my suspension set up that much but I was setting up my bike around the crappy OEM seat. Had I upgraded the seat I may not have upgraded the suspension. I love the ENZO don't get me wrong I can flat land out of the sky and it soaks it up like a miracle but I had them set it up for race pace and my old butt can't run race pace very long in practice. Plus it's set up for 215 lb and I lost weight down to 200. Anyway my 2 cents. I will post a seat review with more pics comparing foam tomorrow. 

 

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This is funny.   I was literally telling my buddy the seat was the best upgrade yet.   I went with the wide standard height foam with winged cover.     Definitely a game changer on this bike.   

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3/28/2024 5:39am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

Crash82 wrote:
I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating...

I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating me like a jack hammer.  So I recently upgraded to the Guts wide seat soft foam and added 14mm to the height. It's a different bike I can sit down most anywhere, it feels so much more plush. It is amazing to me. My suspension feels insanely better. I'm 60 years though. If i had a choice of the Yoshi, Enzo or the Guts wide seat you can straight up only choose one. Guts seat foam upgrade all day long. The seat ruins this bike. I never would have thought it affected my suspension set up that much but I was setting up my bike around the crappy OEM seat. Had I upgraded the seat I may not have upgraded the suspension. I love the ENZO don't get me wrong I can flat land out of the sky and it soaks it up like a miracle but I had them set it up for race pace and my old butt can't run race pace very long in practice. Plus it's set up for 215 lb and I lost weight down to 200. Anyway my 2 cents. I will post a seat review with more pics comparing foam tomorrow. 

 

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Thanks, I actually have the standard height wide seat from them and agree it's a huge improvement. 

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3/28/2024 6:16am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

Crash82 wrote:
I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating...

I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating me like a jack hammer.  So I recently upgraded to the Guts wide seat soft foam and added 14mm to the height. It's a different bike I can sit down most anywhere, it feels so much more plush. It is amazing to me. My suspension feels insanely better. I'm 60 years though. If i had a choice of the Yoshi, Enzo or the Guts wide seat you can straight up only choose one. Guts seat foam upgrade all day long. The seat ruins this bike. I never would have thought it affected my suspension set up that much but I was setting up my bike around the crappy OEM seat. Had I upgraded the seat I may not have upgraded the suspension. I love the ENZO don't get me wrong I can flat land out of the sky and it soaks it up like a miracle but I had them set it up for race pace and my old butt can't run race pace very long in practice. Plus it's set up for 215 lb and I lost weight down to 200. Anyway my 2 cents. I will post a seat review with more pics comparing foam tomorrow. 

 

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motocrisis wrote:

I know you're 60 (I'll be 50 in two months), but relating suspension settings to seat foam is unreal.

Tire pressure - tire sidewall height - tire carcass and seat foam all have huge effect on suspension. Bolt a 2x4 to your seat and let us know how the bike feels coming out of choppy corners. :-) I'm not trying to be a Richard but i agree is all - cheers. 

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3/28/2024 6:59am
motocrisis wrote:

I know you're 60 (I'll be 50 in two months), but relating suspension settings to seat foam is unreal.

It's actually unreal to think anyone could not easily see how the two are directly related and affect each other.

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3/28/2024 7:05am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

Crash82 wrote:
I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating...

I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating me like a jack hammer.  So I recently upgraded to the Guts wide seat soft foam and added 14mm to the height. It's a different bike I can sit down most anywhere, it feels so much more plush. It is amazing to me. My suspension feels insanely better. I'm 60 years though. If i had a choice of the Yoshi, Enzo or the Guts wide seat you can straight up only choose one. Guts seat foam upgrade all day long. The seat ruins this bike. I never would have thought it affected my suspension set up that much but I was setting up my bike around the crappy OEM seat. Had I upgraded the seat I may not have upgraded the suspension. I love the ENZO don't get me wrong I can flat land out of the sky and it soaks it up like a miracle but I had them set it up for race pace and my old butt can't run race pace very long in practice. Plus it's set up for 215 lb and I lost weight down to 200. Anyway my 2 cents. I will post a seat review with more pics comparing foam tomorrow. 

 

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motocrisis wrote:

I know you're 60 (I'll be 50 in two months), but relating suspension settings to seat foam is unreal.

I get it but I have a bad lower back, I went from feeling every little bump in my lower back and having to stand up coming out of corners in ruts with acceleration bumps to being able to sit and not feel them at all. I was miserable all day and spent a lot of time protecting my lower back, last ride with the new seat the track was beat up as heck and not once all day did I take a hit that hurt my back. It would relate to what one poster in this thread called small bump plushness I guess. I was surprised it made that much difference too. Oh well. 

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3/28/2024 8:15am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

Crash82 wrote:
I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating...

I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating me like a jack hammer.  So I recently upgraded to the Guts wide seat soft foam and added 14mm to the height. It's a different bike I can sit down most anywhere, it feels so much more plush. It is amazing to me. My suspension feels insanely better. I'm 60 years though. If i had a choice of the Yoshi, Enzo or the Guts wide seat you can straight up only choose one. Guts seat foam upgrade all day long. The seat ruins this bike. I never would have thought it affected my suspension set up that much but I was setting up my bike around the crappy OEM seat. Had I upgraded the seat I may not have upgraded the suspension. I love the ENZO don't get me wrong I can flat land out of the sky and it soaks it up like a miracle but I had them set it up for race pace and my old butt can't run race pace very long in practice. Plus it's set up for 215 lb and I lost weight down to 200. Anyway my 2 cents. I will post a seat review with more pics comparing foam tomorrow. 

 

0324241150.jpg?VersionId= Z lDku9 dUe7CVcPxmES432757775 10232198336930187 6906373712984912481 n432773147 10232198336530177 2629996626173419989 n430129565 10232198337290196 4199320857924538198 n430720403 10232198335650155 3731004153524534377 n

This is funny.   I was literally telling my buddy the seat was the best upgrade yet.   I went with the wide standard height foam with winged...

This is funny.   I was literally telling my buddy the seat was the best upgrade yet.   I went with the wide standard height foam with winged cover.     Definitely a game changer on this bike.   

I was wondering how the standard height standard size would feel but I was so desperate I didn't mind adding 14mm even though i can barely touch the ground on the stock seat. Thanks! One thing for sure is the Guts foam felt way heavier than OEM for sure but whatever it takes man it's awesome. 

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I ordered the Seat Concepts Race 2.0 tall seat.....i'll pass along updates once i receive it.  

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3/28/2024 12:31pm Edited Date/Time 3/28/2024 12:32pm

I think I'm the only person with this bike that actually likes the stock seat....

On another note, after 10 hours and the suspension breaking in, Im needing a little more hold up and stiffness in the forks and plan on adding 10 ml of fork oil as a start. Eventually may send it off for work, but want an interim improvement.

Does anyone know if Honda SS-19 Fork Oil I have in my garage from my previous bike is comparable to the recommended Kayaba Fork Oil the manual recommends?

Thanks.

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3/28/2024 1:27pm
Moto520 wrote:

I ordered the Seat Concepts Race 2.0 tall seat.....i'll pass along updates once i receive it.  

Cool deal looking forward to hearing how you like it. I was on the fence between the two so I went with the cheapest route. I bet Seat Concepts is awesome too, if you have not tried a seat upgrade you are in for a treat. 

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I think I'm the only person with this bike that actually likes the stock seat.... On another note, after 10 hours and the suspension breaking in...

I think I'm the only person with this bike that actually likes the stock seat....

On another note, after 10 hours and the suspension breaking in, Im needing a little more hold up and stiffness in the forks and plan on adding 10 ml of fork oil as a start. Eventually may send it off for work, but want an interim improvement.

Does anyone know if Honda SS-19 Fork Oil I have in my garage from my previous bike is comparable to the recommended Kayaba Fork Oil the manual recommends?

Thanks.

First 10 minutes on the bike i questioned myself because of the seat. Once i got it out of my head and got up to speed, i didn't even notice it anymore. Feel like maybe it actually helped me shift weight easier in corners and seat bounce scenarios. 

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3/28/2024 7:24pm

Would it be wild to consider an FX and have a 19" rear on it as primarily a moto bike? 

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3/28/2024 7:27pm

My map switch isn’t working properly. I can’t switch to map 2. I press the button and it blinks 5 times and light goes off. I did buy a new 1 and same thing. Any ideas? Yes the launch control works. 

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jfb532625 wrote:
My map switch isn’t working properly. I can’t switch to map 2. I press the button and it blinks 5 times and light goes off. I...

My map switch isn’t working properly. I can’t switch to map 2. I press the button and it blinks 5 times and light goes off. I did buy a new 1 and same thing. Any ideas? Yes the launch control works. 

Make sure your bike is not set up for lap times. Stays in map one. A buddy of mine had the same issue. 

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3/29/2024 8:04am
jfb532625 wrote:
My map switch isn’t working properly. I can’t switch to map 2. I press the button and it blinks 5 times and light goes off. I...

My map switch isn’t working properly. I can’t switch to map 2. I press the button and it blinks 5 times and light goes off. I did buy a new 1 and same thing. Any ideas? Yes the launch control works. 

Have you tried a 96 cr250? Those bikes don’t seem to have many electrical problems 

 

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3/29/2024 8:11am Edited Date/Time 3/29/2024 8:13am
Moto520 wrote:

I ordered the Seat Concepts Race 2.0 tall seat.....i'll pass along updates once i receive it.  

Crash82 wrote:
Cool deal looking forward to hearing how you like it. I was on the fence between the two so I went with the cheapest route. I...

Cool deal looking forward to hearing how you like it. I was on the fence between the two so I went with the cheapest route. I bet Seat Concepts is awesome too, if you have not tried a seat upgrade you are in for a treat. 

I'm a connoisseur of motocross seats.  I'm 6'3" tall so the first thing i get is a taller seat.  For me....it makes a huge difference in giving my legs a place to go (if that makes sense).  I like the Guts product offerings with the Phantom foam but i prefer to pay more and get the complete seats when possible.  I like the shape of the YZ450 stock seat so i didn't switch to the flat top seat.  We'll see how it goes.  $379.....holy jesus 

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It’s probably been covered but I went +14mm flat top foam in medium density from GUTS, and as usual the service is great, but the foam is really soft. It’s actually been great for off road and sitting through stuff, but it definitely feels like an adventure seat sort of when you first get on. 
 

Not sure it’s actually 14mm+ taller once you sit given how much you sink in. 

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Are you a soft ass or a hard ass? Woohoo

I personally always liked a hard seat with a gripper cover on my bikes. Why? because I want to easily be able to move around on the bike or stay put in turns.

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Meister wrote:

Would it be wild to consider an FX and have a 19" rear on it as primarily a moto bike? 

I know it's not apples to apples but I have two friends who raced MX on 250FX's and they liked them. That new 450FX is a good bit different with the lowered suspension but I'd imagine you could make it work just fine with some testing. Same with the transmission, just have to test out some different gearing. I wouldn't even sweat running the 18" rear wheel either. I have raced moto with an 18" a bunch of times and honestly didn't notice any difference. 

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I think I'm the only person with this bike that actually likes the stock seat.... On another note, after 10 hours and the suspension breaking in...

I think I'm the only person with this bike that actually likes the stock seat....

On another note, after 10 hours and the suspension breaking in, Im needing a little more hold up and stiffness in the forks and plan on adding 10 ml of fork oil as a start. Eventually may send it off for work, but want an interim improvement.

Does anyone know if Honda SS-19 Fork Oil I have in my garage from my previous bike is comparable to the recommended Kayaba Fork Oil the manual recommends?

Thanks.

Meister wrote:
First 10 minutes on the bike i questioned myself because of the seat. Once i got it out of my head and got up to speed...

First 10 minutes on the bike i questioned myself because of the seat. Once i got it out of my head and got up to speed, i didn't even notice it anymore. Feel like maybe it actually helped me shift weight easier in corners and seat bounce scenarios. 

I like the stock seat and the roundness of it. 

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3/29/2024 9:56pm Edited Date/Time 3/29/2024 9:59pm
Tire pressure - tire sidewall height - tire carcass and seat foam all have huge effect on suspension. Bolt a 2x4 to your seat and let...

Tire pressure - tire sidewall height - tire carcass and seat foam all have huge effect on suspension. Bolt a 2x4 to your seat and let us know how the bike feels coming out of choppy corners. :-) I'm not trying to be a Richard but i agree is all - cheers. 

I agree that all of those things, MINUS the seat foam, have an effect on suspension.  Seat foam affects comfort when your butt is planted on the seat, 100%.  But to literally have different suspension settings based on seat foam?  That doesn't sit right for me, no pun intended.  Maybe I'm not old enough yet.

Edit to add: The bike came with a 2x4 bolted to it, I hated it.  Felt like I was saddling a saw horse. I wound up wearing my MTB bike shorts and didn't mind it after that.

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3/29/2024 10:20pm Edited Date/Time 3/29/2024 10:21pm
Crash82 wrote:
I get it but I have a bad lower back, I went from feeling every little bump in my lower back and having to stand up...

I get it but I have a bad lower back, I went from feeling every little bump in my lower back and having to stand up coming out of corners in ruts with acceleration bumps to being able to sit and not feel them at all. I was miserable all day and spent a lot of time protecting my lower back, last ride with the new seat the track was beat up as heck and not once all day did I take a hit that hurt my back. It would relate to what one poster in this thread called small bump plushness I guess. I was surprised it made that much difference too. Oh well. 

Totally get it.  The seat gave you a massive boost in comfort.  I didn't intend to diminish or doubt your appreciation for it, and if I did, I apologize.  My comment was focused on suspension settings, and maybe was out of line. 

3/31/2024 10:02am

Question, anyone replace their stock battery? I just bought a firepower battery from Motosport n the battery connectors our  on the opposite sides, not sure if it’s the wrong battery? Anyone else have this issue? Or is it not an issue n just the wrong battery? Lol

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Question, anyone replace their stock battery? I just bought a firepower battery from Motosport n the battery connectors our  on the opposite sides, not sure if...

Question, anyone replace their stock battery? I just bought a firepower battery from Motosport n the battery connectors our  on the opposite sides, not sure if it’s the wrong battery? Anyone else have this issue? Or is it not an issue n just the wrong battery? Lol

Possibly the wrong model of battery.  I just put in a firepower and it lined up just fine.  

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4/3/2024 12:27pm

Anyone know if a rear shock spring from 2015 yz450f will fit a 2023 bike? 

Got a new 6.0 spring sitting from last time I rode yamaha back in 2015 so will try it if it fits.

4/3/2024 1:18pm
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Anyone know if a rear shock spring from 2015 yz450f will fit a 2023 bike?  Got a new 6.0 spring sitting from last time I rode...

Anyone know if a rear shock spring from 2015 yz450f will fit a 2023 bike? 

Got a new 6.0 spring sitting from last time I rode yamaha back in 2015 so will try it if it fits.

YUP. good to go 

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Meister wrote:

Would it be wild to consider an FX and have a 19" rear on it as primarily a moto bike? 

I love my FX so much I got a second one, gotta have a race bike and a practice bike right?😅

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Anyone have . 52 fork springs or 6.0 shock spring laying around?! 

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I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

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MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

In my opinion, the bike is great in stock form, it’s very impressive!


Handlebars are preference, I go with a non cross bar for less rigidity.

Id suggest riding the stock brakes before you do the braided line. For me, the stock front brake bites too hard. I’m coming off years of Using Brembo so I did the brembo master mod with old Yamaha caliper.

I like the works connection low peg mounts.

Waterproof the map switch/kill switch with silicone.

Twin air filter cage is nice

upload a bunch of maps to test

 

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