What's up with Anderson?

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This really puts Kitchen in the catbird seat.  Prado replaces AC next year.  Kitchen gets another year of development and to potentially defend his title, then...

This really puts Kitchen in the catbird seat.  Prado replaces AC next year.  Kitchen gets another year of development and to potentially defend his title, then slides into the spot vacated by JA when he retires at the end of ‘25.

Yea, I'm seeing Prado and Kitchen in '26.  JA has another year on his deal? 

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This really puts Kitchen in the catbird seat.  Prado replaces AC next year.  Kitchen gets another year of development and to potentially defend his title, then...

This really puts Kitchen in the catbird seat.  Prado replaces AC next year.  Kitchen gets another year of development and to potentially defend his title, then slides into the spot vacated by JA when he retires at the end of ‘25.

ML512 wrote:

Potentially, but Kawi is also after another rider who's not currently on a Kawi... Deegan talks continue to circulate.

For a 450 ride?  Why are they trying to move him up so quick, clearly no where near ready for a 450 anytime soon.  I even heard rumors they were thinking he'd be ready for a 450 next year.

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MX315mx wrote:

He probably already signed to be on Triump 450 and Bobby Reegans team ….or burned out. He was on fire the beginning of year 

Yea after the first few rounds I thought he'd at least have one win by now.

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DEMONDAVE wrote:

Ando needs a brand change to revitalize his career

Come on, he's 31 years old.  

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M1000 wrote:

Anderson has Jett Syndrome, it’s contagious. Doctors stated no cure. Retirement on horizon. Along with Tomac, Barcia, Wilson, Craig, Mookie. 🏁🏁🏁

It's interesting. It seems there was this brief period of time when all the old guys that normally would have been considering going into aged care homes decided to keep racing. Two reasons for this: Tomac did well with his move to Yamaha and career resurgence; but more importantly, there were not that many fast young guys emerging - apart from Chase.  

They all looked at the competition and thought they could extend their careers.  Jett has put an end to this way of thinking.  It seems the teams won't be happy to subsidize the old guys any longer either. They all seem to be desperately searching for new young fast guys. 

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MX315mx wrote:

He probably already signed to be on Triump 450 and Bobby Reegans team ….or burned out. He was on fire the beginning of year 

He was on fire and by all accounts had no plans on retiring soon. 

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Money wrote:

Riding it out collecting a check.  Riders like Anderson need one year contracts that are all performance based. 

Agreed. 

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3/24/2024 3:48pm
DEMONDAVE wrote:

Ando needs a brand change to revitalize his career

Sarcasm? He just got on green

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Forty wrote:
He's 7th in the series after 11 rounds with current competition.  4th in the series is doable by series end. I'm thinking he's ok.   These guys...

He's 7th in the series after 11 rounds with current competition.  4th in the series is doable by series end.

I'm thinking he's ok.  

These guys are fucking fast!

Try telling that to the Kawi bosses. Seventh place in the series for the number 1 guy on a factory team is not cutting it. 

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M1000 wrote:

Anderson has Jett Syndrome, it’s contagious. Doctors stated no cure. Retirement on horizon. Along with Tomac, Barcia, Wilson, Craig, Mookie. 🏁🏁🏁

Herr Lich wrote:
It's interesting. It seems there was this brief period of time when all the old guys that normally would have been considering going into aged care...

It's interesting. It seems there was this brief period of time when all the old guys that normally would have been considering going into aged care homes decided to keep racing. Two reasons for this: Tomac did well with his move to Yamaha and career resurgence; but more importantly, there were not that many fast young guys emerging - apart from Chase.  

They all looked at the competition and thought they could extend their careers.  Jett has put an end to this way of thinking.  It seems the teams won't be happy to subsidize the old guys any longer either. They all seem to be desperately searching for new young fast guys. 

You can't shovel dirt on these guys any faster can you? Can't say as I blame you because as we've witnessed, Kenny, Cooper, AP, are all capable of defeating the future King. Still waiting on Eli and Jason...

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Forty wrote:
He's 7th in the series after 11 rounds with current competition.  4th in the series is doable by series end. I'm thinking he's ok.   These guys...

He's 7th in the series after 11 rounds with current competition.  4th in the series is doable by series end.

I'm thinking he's ok.  

These guys are fucking fast!

Herr Lich wrote:

Try telling that to the Kawi bosses. Seventh place in the series for the number 1 guy on a factory team is not cutting it. 

Maybe, but we can't know that - - and it's not relevant to this thread.  

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At the beginning of the season it looked like he was back on track and was building back to where he was in '22.  We know...

At the beginning of the season it looked like he was back on track and was building back to where he was in '22.  We know he wasn't comfortable on the bike last year, but what's going on now?  His results are all over the place and tonight he faded hard, 3rd to 10th!

ACBraap wrote:

Anderson, Barcia, Tomac, and Mookie are the same age.  Their results this year are showing it.

Lots of businesses decisions being made on the track. You can throw a few more in that group as well. KR admitted that he gives second thoughts on risky obstacles.

It happens when you get older and have families.

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3/24/2024 4:55pm

He looked faster earlier  in the season.   He is 53 points down and 7th in the series.

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Forty wrote:
He's 7th in the series after 11 rounds with current competition.  4th in the series is doable by series end. I'm thinking he's ok.   These guys...

He's 7th in the series after 11 rounds with current competition.  4th in the series is doable by series end.

I'm thinking he's ok.  

These guys are fucking fast!

Herr Lich wrote:

Try telling that to the Kawi bosses. Seventh place in the series for the number 1 guy on a factory team is not cutting it. 

Add to that their 2nd rider is not top 10 and they have just launched a brand new bike.   Not great.

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3/24/2024 5:20pm
280driver wrote:

Add to that their 2nd rider is not top 10 and they have just launched a brand new bike.   Not great.

Add the lack of performance to reliability issues . . They had to sell last years models for what? $5900 after the rebates?

its a good time to be in the market for a kawi/zuke if you're willing to be caught riding one

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280driver wrote:

Add to that their 2nd rider is not top 10 and they have just launched a brand new bike.   Not great.

Add the lack of performance to reliability issues . . They had to sell last years models for what? $5900 after the rebates? its a good...

Add the lack of performance to reliability issues . . They had to sell last years models for what? $5900 after the rebates?

its a good time to be in the market for a kawi/zuke if you're willing to be caught riding one

Not aware of any reliability issues.  Last years bike on heavy discount to make way for the new model.  

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3/25/2024 4:51am
280driver wrote:

Not aware of any reliability issues.  Last years bike on heavy discount to make way for the new model.  

A lot of people grenading those kx engines after 30-40 hours it seems like and then posting about it. To be fair they're not doing proper maintenance

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3/25/2024 9:39am

Nothings up with Anderson.....   Ando is doing Ando. 

 

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In years past the age for being a Pro was in asap at 16 birthday and past the done point was 27.

Those days are long gone and riders are still competitive into their 30’s.

The bad part is the riders are staying in longer so there are less opportunities for the young guns that are coming in.

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Apparently Star Racing has room.

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kxking wrote:

Apparently Star Racing has room.

Ducati 🇮🇹 and Triumph 🇬🇧 down the road with the 450 coming 

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This really puts Kitchen in the catbird seat.  Prado replaces AC next year.  Kitchen gets another year of development and to potentially defend his title, then...

This really puts Kitchen in the catbird seat.  Prado replaces AC next year.  Kitchen gets another year of development and to potentially defend his title, then slides into the spot vacated by JA when he retires at the end of ‘25.

ML512 wrote:

Potentially, but Kawi is also after another rider who's not currently on a Kawi... Deegan talks continue to circulate.

soyMotero wrote:
How long is Deegan contract with Yamaha? Does it include a 450 deal? Because Deegan is Yamaha best prospect in the 250 class in terms of...

How long is Deegan contract with Yamaha? Does it include a 450 deal? Because Deegan is Yamaha best prospect in the 250 class in terms of age and performance, hard to see them allowing him to leave

Bennick has the ability to bypass Deegan with time. Soon as he gets a little more top level experience, he will show it. 

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3/25/2024 11:08am

Like other fast guys, if they get a start, they’re going for it. If not, then they’re not.

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280driver wrote:

Not aware of any reliability issues.  Last years bike on heavy discount to make way for the new model.  

A lot of people grenading those kx engines after 30-40 hours it seems like and then posting about it. To be fair they're not doing proper...

A lot of people grenading those kx engines after 30-40 hours it seems like and then posting about it. To be fair they're not doing proper maintenance

Seen some of those grenaded engines apart.   Some with 15-20 hours.  Not sure what maintenance would have prevented it.  Aside from a new crank and rod assembly at low low hours.  Valvetrain seems to be solid for good intervals.  

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3/25/2024 11:39am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2024 11:43am
280driver wrote:

Not aware of any reliability issues.  Last years bike on heavy discount to make way for the new model.  

A lot of people grenading those kx engines after 30-40 hours it seems like and then posting about it. To be fair they're not doing proper...

A lot of people grenading those kx engines after 30-40 hours it seems like and then posting about it. To be fair they're not doing proper maintenance

Seen some of those grenaded engines apart.   Some with 15-20 hours.  Not sure what maintenance would have prevented it.  Aside from a new crank and...

Seen some of those grenaded engines apart.   Some with 15-20 hours.  Not sure what maintenance would have prevented it.  Aside from a new crank and rod assembly at low low hours.  Valvetrain seems to be solid for good intervals.  

Plenty of Kawi’s at my local tracks.  I haven’t noticed them being anymore (or less) problematic than the others brands.  Regardless, that’s not Anderson’s issue.

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3/28/2024 9:24am Edited Date/Time 3/28/2024 9:26am
M1000 wrote:

Anderson has Jett Syndrome, it’s contagious. Doctors stated no cure. Retirement on horizon. Along with Tomac, Barcia, Wilson, Craig, Mookie. 🏁🏁🏁

Herr Lich wrote:
It's interesting. It seems there was this brief period of time when all the old guys that normally would have been considering going into aged care...

It's interesting. It seems there was this brief period of time when all the old guys that normally would have been considering going into aged care homes decided to keep racing. Two reasons for this: Tomac did well with his move to Yamaha and career resurgence; but more importantly, there were not that many fast young guys emerging - apart from Chase.  

They all looked at the competition and thought they could extend their careers.  Jett has put an end to this way of thinking.  It seems the teams won't be happy to subsidize the old guys any longer either. They all seem to be desperately searching for new young fast guys. 

This is part of the problem. These guys need to win championships now. You want to grow the sport of Sx, Mx. you need new younger bodies. Remember back  in the 80’s, only one supercross class before the 125 class. You raced 250 Supercross as a 16, 17 year old competing against, Omara, Schultz, Magoo, Bailey, Lechien, Barnett, Ward, Glover, Hannah, Johnson. You were either winning or retiring. Most these guys didn’t get past 27 years of age and they were put out to pasture, or burned out. Sx needs more new blood. Move these guys to the show by 20. If they don’t produce in five years, then it’s time to look elsewhere at career options. As it is now, most these guys just riding for paycheck. Only guys following are followers of these guys since 250 class. Tomac fans, Anderson fans, Craig fans, etc. sure they may be competitive, however they are not going to win titles. RJ Hampshire should have moved up to 450 years ago. Mcadoo been riding 250 forever. Seems to be a Bottleneck into the 450 class. Many good rider, didn’t get a shot at 450’s. Example J.Mart (finished second at Daytona). If older riders, want to ride 450 class, Finance it themselves with there sponsorship sources (example Chad Reed). There will be more rides available in near future, with Ducati, and Triumph. Likely need at least 15 full factory sponsored riders. End of rant.🥃🥃🥃

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3/28/2024 9:48am
Boomslang wrote:

Burnt out....he looks over it.

Yeah at Indy he did.  He and Barcia r the only 2 that hv any style on the 450.  Wouldn’t it get old tho the same questions every week. Same routine go through the motions and get the big pay check.  At 28 there thinking another yr another apartment complex I own. The fan boys get addicted to a rider and keep them going. 

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3/28/2024 9:51am

Anderson is finishing right where I expect. At this point, he could have the ride of his life on a perfect night and still only land in 3rd or 4th. One or two bad laps and he's in 9th, easy. The competition is gnarly this year.

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