Dylan Ferrandis to Factory Husky 2025?

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3/21/2024 6:01pm Edited Date/Time 3/21/2024 6:20pm
So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new...

So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new platform and wanted to make the move.

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He did voice his displeasure with the newer yamahauler but in addition might of gotten tired of the Star atmosphere in general.  I think you're selling...

He did voice his displeasure with the newer yamahauler but in addition might of gotten tired of the Star atmosphere in general. 

I think you're selling him short on his Phoenix results. "Bro ain't you heard the field is stacked" ...boy I feel funny talking like that. But he's not complained about the bike to my knowledge. I know they switched from Maxxis to Bridgestone but that's it.

I'm working on the assumption he'd leave the Honda team based on this report. If he's 100% happy and doesn't think it would be an improvement...

I'm working on the assumption he'd leave the Honda team based on this report.

If he's 100% happy and doesn't think it would be an improvement, then why make the change if it's results you're chasing? (unless he's been told they won't have a ridefor him next year, for whatever the reason). You usually hear of competitive people making changes to make improvements in their results (but sometimes it's to improve the bank balance and performance takes a back seat to the dollars).

Obviously I don't know, just speculating as to why another change so suddenly if everything is good.

I'm leaning towards the move for more dollars scenario. He will be 30 in May.

It will be real interesting to see what Kenny does next...

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I do not..uh...recall...anything of this nature being mentioned so...y'know. I..I..I ..I don't see it.

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DF going to Factory Husky next year as a replacement of Craig. The info is from M.Musquin who seems to say it IS a done deal...

DF going to Factory Husky next year as a replacement of Craig.

The info is from M.Musquin who seems to say it IS a done deal.

They spoke about it during the DV podcast as Marv is in Florida with Tom Vialle right now and has close information with the KTM Group

That husky platform is not looking good this year . Either that or Malcolm is just behind the ball in his riding, but he was much better last year . I wonder how close the salary is between a phoenix/ club Mx level team , and that of a factory program ?

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So Craig is done then? Can’t imagine another factory team picking him up 

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mtbkris2 wrote:

So Craig is done then? Can’t imagine another factory team picking him up 

He and Ferrandis trade spots

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mtbkris2 wrote:

So Craig is done then? Can’t imagine another factory team picking him up 

brocster wrote:

He and Ferrandis trade spots

Naah, Phoenix is probably done with this 450 experiment. Back to 250’s, dont go looking for Coty tough… Whistling

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Husky guys havent been on top 10 since Osbourne left and missed most of races. Sounds like team is retirement home now. Ferrandis will get good salary and bring bike back if he has motivation left. 

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DF going to Factory Husky next year as a replacement of Craig. The info is from M.Musquin who seems to say it IS a done deal...

DF going to Factory Husky next year as a replacement of Craig.

The info is from M.Musquin who seems to say it IS a done deal.

They spoke about it during the DV podcast as Marv is in Florida with Tom Vialle right now and has close information with the KTM Group

I listened to the pod and did not hear the "done deal" thing. He said that was a rumor floating around. 

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Not looking good on the YZF? Get on a CRF. Not looking good on the CRF? Get on a Husky. Not looking good on a Husky...

Not looking good on the YZF? Get on a CRF.

Not looking good on the CRF? Get on a Husky.

Not looking good on a Husky? GTFO?

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-He was off to his best 450 SX season on the Yamaha last year until he was knocked out. -He feels great on the Honda, but...

-He was off to his best 450 SX season on the Yamaha last year until he was knocked out.

-He feels great on the Honda, but it's not a factory team. 

Asking for a friend….. is Kenny on a factory ride😊

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Husky guys havent been on top 10 since Osbourne left and missed most of races. Sounds like team is retirement home now. Ferrandis will get good...

Husky guys havent been on top 10 since Osbourne left and missed most of races. Sounds like team is retirement home now. Ferrandis will get good salary and bring bike back if he has motivation left. 

??

Malcom finished the season 3rd in SX back in 2022

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3/22/2024 4:01am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2024 4:08am

I can’t see how top factory bikes can be “bad”. Rick Johnson ride a “basically” stock YZ250 and YZ490 to several wins. Bob Hannah and Johnny Omar switched to Suzuki and had successful careers after switching. Ricky Carmichael switched to Suzuki successfully. JA21 switched to Husky won an SX championship. Ryan Dungey to KTM. Tomac to Kawi and to Yamaha. Didn’t Cooper Webb win an SX Championship on the KTM? Zach Osborne win an outdoor championship on the Husky.


Point being, the Husky GG and KTM are factory race bikes. How can they not be good? Yes, the front fenders are odd but other than that, these are the most competitive bikes any rider can get. 

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I can’t see how top factory bikes can be “bad”. Rick Johnson ride a “basically” stock YZ250 and YZ490 to several wins. Bob Hannah and Johnny...

I can’t see how top factory bikes can be “bad”. Rick Johnson ride a “basically” stock YZ250 and YZ490 to several wins. Bob Hannah and Johnny Omar switched to Suzuki and had successful careers after switching. Ricky Carmichael switched to Suzuki successfully. JA21 switched to Husky won an SX championship. Ryan Dungey to KTM. Tomac to Kawi and to Yamaha. Didn’t Cooper Webb win an SX Championship on the KTM? Zach Osborne win an outdoor championship on the Husky.


Point being, the Husky GG and KTM are factory race bikes. How can they not be good? Yes, the front fenders are odd but other than that, these are the most competitive bikes any rider can get. 

It seems that development and set-up of these factory bikes has a lot to do with the rider involved. Some riders know exactly the feel they want, and how they want to get there, others not so much. Some riders seem to be able to adapt riding styles to different set-ups as well. Perhaps with Dylan there may be a slight language and cultural barrier as well, what he wants may be difficult to describe in English for him as well as how to describe it. Of course, it appears many times teams seem oddly resistant to rider input too, Webb and Barcia's most recent episodes come to mind.

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It seems that development and set-up of these factory bikes has a lot to do with the rider involved. Some riders know exactly the feel they...

It seems that development and set-up of these factory bikes has a lot to do with the rider involved. Some riders know exactly the feel they want, and how they want to get there, others not so much. Some riders seem to be able to adapt riding styles to different set-ups as well. Perhaps with Dylan there may be a slight language and cultural barrier as well, what he wants may be difficult to describe in English for him as well as how to describe it. Of course, it appears many times teams seem oddly resistant to rider input too, Webb and Barcia's most recent episodes come to mind.

Good points. I didn’t think about that being the reason Barcia, Craig, and Malcolm have all done so horribly on the bikes. If only they had a “good” bike to ride. Cool

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"I aLwAYz wANtEd tO riDe A hOnDuh" haha fuckin clown

Yeah, if he jumps ship, its not a good look for him. Even if it is to a factory team.

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Not looking good on the YZF? Get on a CRF. Not looking good on the CRF? Get on a Husky. Not looking good on a Husky...

Not looking good on the YZF? Get on a CRF.

Not looking good on the CRF? Get on a Husky.

Not looking good on a Husky? GTFO?

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-He was off to his best 450 SX season on the Yamaha last year until he was knocked out. -He feels great on the Honda, but...

-He was off to his best 450 SX season on the Yamaha last year until he was knocked out.

-He feels great on the Honda, but it's not a factory team. 

So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new...

So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new platform and wanted to make the move.

He liked the new platform for SX. It wasn't great for him outdoors. He struggled with it all summer last year and still managed to get second in the championship.

The previous gen YZ he had trouble gelling with it in SX, but it was great outdoors. He proved that by going on to win the championship.

Why the switch? He's been wanting to ride a Honda since he moved up to the 450 class. The money was too far apart and he decided to stay loyal to Star and Yamaha. He explained why he switched. He noticed how stable the Honda was and that's something he wanted. His start of the SX season this year was on par with last year. 

He then got sick before Daytona and it turned into a lung infection. He passed Kenny for 4th at Daytona and later went over the bars which resulted in a bone bruise in his knee. He couldn't ride during week, went to Birmingham, and hit his knee again. 

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Did Craig no about this ?

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Travis_821 wrote:

Did Craig no about this ?

If he doesn't, his results should have at least clued him in. 

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Isn't Phoenix Honda in the mix for becoming the Ducati MX team here in the States? Is this possibly a reason for the rumor too?

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
-He was off to his best 450 SX season on the Yamaha last year until he was knocked out. -He feels great on the Honda, but...

-He was off to his best 450 SX season on the Yamaha last year until he was knocked out.

-He feels great on the Honda, but it's not a factory team. 

So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new...

So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new platform and wanted to make the move.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
He liked the new platform for SX. It wasn't great for him outdoors. He struggled with it all summer last year and still managed to get...

He liked the new platform for SX. It wasn't great for him outdoors. He struggled with it all summer last year and still managed to get second in the championship.

The previous gen YZ he had trouble gelling with it in SX, but it was great outdoors. He proved that by going on to win the championship.

Why the switch? He's been wanting to ride a Honda since he moved up to the 450 class. The money was too far apart and he decided to stay loyal to Star and Yamaha. He explained why he switched. He noticed how stable the Honda was and that's something he wanted. His start of the SX season this year was on par with last year. 

He then got sick before Daytona and it turned into a lung infection. He passed Kenny for 4th at Daytona and later went over the bars which resulted in a bone bruise in his knee. He couldn't ride during week, went to Birmingham, and hit his knee again. 

Interesting.

I've heard the current CRF450 platform described with a number of words but stable hasn't been one of them. 

Wonder what he saw that made him believe it (other than following JL around in the outdoors and watching the bike, but JL's riding style is so neutral it would make any bike look stable).

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Interesting. I've heard the current CRF450 platform described with a number of words but stable hasn't been one of them.  Wonder what he saw that made...

Interesting.

I've heard the current CRF450 platform described with a number of words but stable hasn't been one of them. 

Wonder what he saw that made him believe it (other than following JL around in the outdoors and watching the bike, but JL's riding style is so neutral it would make any bike look stable).

From a French interview he did:

Was it really your desire to ride Honda this year?

To be honest, for years I've considered the CR-F to be the best 450 in the field. When you are under contract with another manufacturer, these are not things you can say, it’s normal. In 2021, when I won the Pro Motocross title, I was often fighting with Roczen. I could see how the Honda reacted. Same thing in SX, we often film the competition to analyze certain things. I've always considered this bike to be really accomplished. In 2020, after my 250 SX and MX championships, when it came time to move up to 450, I negotiated with Honda to sign with them. In the end, I opted for Yamaha's superb offer. In 2022, when I extended my contract with Star Racing, my agent was also talking to Honda. This desire to ride a CR-F is nothing new. In the end, it won't be with a factory bike, but it's still a great opportunity for me.

Full interview if you or anyone else wants to read it. 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/interview-dylan-ferrandis

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3/22/2024 9:26am
So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new...

So, if he was happy on the YZF, why the desire to make a change? My understanding was he was voicing his displeasure with the new platform and wanted to make the move.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
He liked the new platform for SX. It wasn't great for him outdoors. He struggled with it all summer last year and still managed to get...

He liked the new platform for SX. It wasn't great for him outdoors. He struggled with it all summer last year and still managed to get second in the championship.

The previous gen YZ he had trouble gelling with it in SX, but it was great outdoors. He proved that by going on to win the championship.

Why the switch? He's been wanting to ride a Honda since he moved up to the 450 class. The money was too far apart and he decided to stay loyal to Star and Yamaha. He explained why he switched. He noticed how stable the Honda was and that's something he wanted. His start of the SX season this year was on par with last year. 

He then got sick before Daytona and it turned into a lung infection. He passed Kenny for 4th at Daytona and later went over the bars which resulted in a bone bruise in his knee. He couldn't ride during week, went to Birmingham, and hit his knee again. 

Interesting. I've heard the current CRF450 platform described with a number of words but stable hasn't been one of them.  Wonder what he saw that made...

Interesting.

I've heard the current CRF450 platform described with a number of words but stable hasn't been one of them. 

Wonder what he saw that made him believe it (other than following JL around in the outdoors and watching the bike, but JL's riding style is so neutral it would make any bike look stable).

I was thinking the same thing. The production bike is about the furthest thing from stable. But we all know that factory CRF450 has no shortage of money and R&D to make it the absolute best they can possibly make it.

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I think DV has stated the CRF is the best pro platform since Canard rode them.

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Wonder if Phoenix keeps evolving or if they go back to what they were as a team if Dylan leaves. 

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Interesting. I've heard the current CRF450 platform described with a number of words but stable hasn't been one of them.  Wonder what he saw that made...

Interesting.

I've heard the current CRF450 platform described with a number of words but stable hasn't been one of them. 

Wonder what he saw that made him believe it (other than following JL around in the outdoors and watching the bike, but JL's riding style is so neutral it would make any bike look stable).

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From a French interview he did: Was it really your desire to ride Honda this year? To be honest, for years I've considered the CR-F to...

From a French interview he did:

Was it really your desire to ride Honda this year?

To be honest, for years I've considered the CR-F to be the best 450 in the field. When you are under contract with another manufacturer, these are not things you can say, it’s normal. In 2021, when I won the Pro Motocross title, I was often fighting with Roczen. I could see how the Honda reacted. Same thing in SX, we often film the competition to analyze certain things. I've always considered this bike to be really accomplished. In 2020, after my 250 SX and MX championships, when it came time to move up to 450, I negotiated with Honda to sign with them. In the end, I opted for Yamaha's superb offer. In 2022, when I extended my contract with Star Racing, my agent was also talking to Honda. This desire to ride a CR-F is nothing new. In the end, it won't be with a factory bike, but it's still a great opportunity for me.

Full interview if you or anyone else wants to read it. 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/interview-dylan-ferrandis

Again, interesting.

Wonder if he still feels the same or if it's been a case of the grass always being greener on the other side of the fence. Also have to wonder how honest it is since he openly admits he hasn't been completely honest in the past - "When you are under contract with another manufacturer, these are not things you can say...". So, I would assume the reverse is also true - when you are under contract there are certain things you have to say, like how much you always wanted to be on this current brand. Obviously speculating but with good reason based on those comments. You aren't going to tell your current girlfriend how much more you like another girl and you just settled for her because you had limited options.

Since he moved to the 450s in SX, I haven't thought of him as a potential winner on a given night. Even when he'd be having a race where he was closer to the front than usual, I was always wondering when he was going to put himself on the ground and so far he hasn't given me a reason to change my mind. I've always gotten the Chad Reed vibe from him since he went stateside; meaning that when he wasn't satisified with his results he would badmouth the bike, always seemed disgruntled and doesn't handle adversity well (at least publicly).

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Spoonguy wrote:

I think DV has stated the CRF is the best pro platform since Canard rode them.

But for whom?

I don't know what he means there since we all know the pros are like the rest of us - they all have their preferences. It's not like an IROC series where everyone races identical spec bikes.

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Again, interesting. Wonder if he still feels the same or if it's been a case of the grass always being greener on the other side of...

Again, interesting.

Wonder if he still feels the same or if it's been a case of the grass always being greener on the other side of the fence. Also have to wonder how honest it is since he openly admits he hasn't been completely honest in the past - "When you are under contract with another manufacturer, these are not things you can say...". So, I would assume the reverse is also true - when you are under contract there are certain things you have to say, like how much you always wanted to be on this current brand. Obviously speculating but with good reason based on those comments. You aren't going to tell your current girlfriend how much more you like another girl and you just settled for her because you had limited options.

Since he moved to the 450s in SX, I haven't thought of him as a potential winner on a given night. Even when he'd be having a race where he was closer to the front than usual, I was always wondering when he was going to put himself on the ground and so far he hasn't given me a reason to change my mind. I've always gotten the Chad Reed vibe from him since he went stateside; meaning that when he wasn't satisified with his results he would badmouth the bike, always seemed disgruntled and doesn't handle adversity well (at least publicly).

S'il vous plaît, laissez mon compatriote français tranquille. Merci 🙂 🇫🇷 

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3/22/2024 11:49am
ML512 wrote:

From Pirelli to Dunlop.

There's no one in the Supercross pits using Bridgestone.

There is this weekend 

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ML512 wrote:

From Pirelli to Dunlop.

There's no one in the Supercross pits using Bridgestone.

There is this weekend 

No one good tho 

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3/22/2024 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 3/22/2024 12:10pm
Not looking good on the YZF? Get on a CRF. Not looking good on the CRF? Get on a Husky. Not looking good on a Husky...

Not looking good on the YZF? Get on a CRF.

Not looking good on the CRF? Get on a Husky.

Not looking good on a Husky? GTFO?

must be a Qanon thing to see his DF results this way 🙄

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3/22/2024 12:16pm
mtbkris2 wrote:

So Craig is done then? Can’t imagine another factory team picking him up 

Goodbye and good riddance. He's been hedging himself for the inevitable for years by trying to monetize social media. 

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