RV’s take on first turn crash

Think he has his blucru glasses on. Haiden was coming from too far outside to control the corner imo

What was RV’s opinion on the Frieze-Hunter incident?   Edit: just rewatched their A1 pod, RV said Friese not at fault, nor Deegan. He is consistent in his opinion. RC blamed Friese. 

Exactly, Yamaha pays his salary….. what else is he going to say!  I’m an RV fan by the way. 

Another Friese moment caught on video. Facts aren't disputable no matter how much RV tries.

Yeah that’s fine and all but baby deegs also knew that was a high risk move trying to cut over like that from the outside. They aren’t merging onto the 405 they are all racing at this point and he shouldn’t expect everyone to just hit the brakes and let him merge over like he is in traffic… not that people even do that on the road anymore 😂 I don’t think anyone is overly concerned with that part, Seth got the worst of the deal when he crashed, wasn’t anyone’s fault that his bike was entangled with Baby Deegs, It was Baby Deegs action towards the corner workers, seth’s bike, with seth in the corner, and with Seth’s mom in the pits afterwards! 

Him cutting over isn't the main issue, it's the entitled delusional meltdown after. 

Without the meltdown, it's a racing incident. His complete lack of respect and perspective after the fact changes almost everyone's perception of the actual crash. 

Both guys were going hard into the first corner. Honestly I can't stand Deegan, but if you look at the straight on view of the first corner...Deegan didn't cut over nearly as hard as it seems. 

I hate giving them clicks...but go to 8:20 in their video. I REALLY want to string him up for it, but it just looks like hard racing to me. 

https://youtu.be/yu9bJmiifdg?si=uM4gUWBITKaL9j_X

Pretty sure the rider with the wheel ahead is in control.

looked like shit happened to me

the bitter bike push then standing there like a dope waiting for his bike to start was hilarious

If he didn’t throw the tantrum after, we probably wouldn’t be talking about it, just chalked it up to inexperience.. but the meltdown did him Zero favours.

And look what that "control" achieved.. total chaos, lol.

Even when he has the "right". It doesn't mean the inside guys have anywhere else to go. Smart riders know better. His all or nothing style will just continue to bite him in the ass.

And RC was looking at RV like he was crazy the whole time he was saying it, lol.

You don't get to saw the nose off every rider going into T1 and expect it to go your way

Nowhere to go, maybe chop the throttle if you’re not leading.

This 100%. It was the tossing of Seth’s bike and the ensuing pit behavior that has people calling him danger baby, diaper deegs etc. 

"Controlling the turn" implies that you can make that turn without getting centerpunched all the way to the banners, which is what happened to Deegan. He wasn't in control of shit at the time he chopped down on Hammaker. 

RV is plain wrong on this one.

I had to rewind to make sure I was hearing RV correctly.  His hot take can only be explained by the Yamaha checks both he and Deegan are cashing.

Yup RV just spoke the truth. Seth came into the turn like a wrecking ball just like he did in Arlington. Good thing Haiden kept his cool enough to not swing on the idiot like pieck. But I’m sure all of you C/D riders out there know better than the 4 time champ.

Yeah let’s trust the dude who has Yamaha logos all over him to have the most objective take on the situation.

I love RV but his opinion has always been “the leader can do whatever they want and everyone else can suck it” which is fine but his isn’t the only opinion that counts or even matters the most.

Ricky was much more candid about it 

The Deegan situation is almost identical to the Friese situation, and RC said Friese was in the wrong.

What do we do when two red-headed multi-time champs disagree?

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You can be incredibly fast and win lots of races and still have terrible takes. Being fast doesn't make you intelligent, articulate, insightful, etc..... lot of great athletes can't coach or analyze the sport they play at even basic levels and all that time spent on developing their athletic skill came at the expense of developing a lot of other things. 

No Christmas card from RC for you... 🎅

My pops was saying the same thing, not that that matters to anyone 😂😂😂

Now show Carmichael's championships

So if the start was not Deegan's fault, I am sure the same perspective would indicate that the Coty Schock incident was all on Deegan.....

He would need to split that across 2 posts. RCs achievement list with nationals alone is absolutely insane.

He also said it was a racing incident since Hammaker had to go around the outside of Dacker (?). So, it is possible Danger-baby had control of the turn but it was also a racing incident due to unforeseen circumstances. 

I only saw it on the broadcast and thought it was 100% on Deegan, but i saw a clip today , where it looks like Hammaker, came in hot, and he has to go right to miss the guy in front of him ,at that point he went straight to the scene of the accident. He was going to blow the turn anyway, Deegan got nailed good and proper, it wasnt the chop that it appeared, i am going to go back and have a better look now. 

Doesnt excuse Deegan being a dick after , but if that was speedway , Hammaker is the cause , not Deegan. 

EDIT

Hammaker had to go right to miss nailing Bennick, there would have been no contact between Bennick and Deegan . 

So while it was ' a racing incident' Deegan wasnt the cause, on a straight that long, you arent chopping across like you were at A1. 

So there was a thread about the VF incident. DV12 chimed in and said VF was absolutely in the right. I wanted to ask DV12 "from a professional's point of view, how far ahead of the next guy is it OK to move over"? However the thread went to the dumbgeon before I could ask. We watch on a roku and have no slowmo option but it looked to me like HD was a full bike length ahead of SH when he started moving over but also started slowing down for the turn which brought SH closer. At the time HD started moving over there was no one behind SH and he could have got off the gas. But choosing to keep racing HD to the corner they came together. I don't blame HD, I don't blame SH. Full blown racing.

Flame away guys

Yep, same for me. I wanted to blame Deegan 100% for it, but when you see the angle from the front....he doesn't cut in all that hard. Pure racing incident. The aftermath, yeah that's pure clown status for Deegan.