Coop & Sexton?

1/21/2024 10:36am
                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb...

                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb was very happy with Tomac. 

If I was Webb I would not be happy either.  Eli was a lap down.  

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1/21/2024 10:40am
                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb...

                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb was very happy with Tomac. 

If I was Webb I would not be happy either.  Eli was a lap down.  

Agreed, Tomac should have moved over for Webb.

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1/21/2024 10:40am
                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb...

                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb was very happy with Tomac. 

If I was Webb I would not be happy either.  Eli was a lap down.  

He doesn’t spend much time in the rig so could probably careless lol. 

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1/21/2024 10:44am

Damned if you do, Damned if you dont. Hold your line-"get out of the way, youre holder up the faster riders!". Get out of the main line-"Hold your line so the rider behind you can get by, dirty riding, team tactics!!!!". 

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1/21/2024 10:47am
                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb...

                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb was very happy with Tomac. 

I got that too.        It was bizarre watching the broadcast and AP got around Eli easy....then I think Eli was like "frak....I don't wanna pull a Chase this week" so he fought to not be lapped.         Rough main for Eli considering how dominant he was in the heat.   KInda shocking.    The track wasn't that bad....and  he excelled in the mud last week. 

Super impressed with Webb this year....he's got speed on that Yami.   If not for Chase incident, I think we would likely have a different outcome. 

Stoked for AP nonetheless. 

 

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1/21/2024 10:48am
                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb...

                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb was very happy with Tomac. 

Magoofan wrote:
I got that too.        It was bizarre watching the broadcast and AP got around Eli easy....then I think Eli was like "frak....I don't...

I got that too.        It was bizarre watching the broadcast and AP got around Eli easy....then I think Eli was like "frak....I don't wanna pull a Chase this week" so he fought to not be lapped.         Rough main for Eli considering how dominant he was in the heat.   KInda shocking.    The track wasn't that bad....and  he excelled in the mud last week. 

Super impressed with Webb this year....he's got speed on that Yami.   If not for Chase incident, I think we would likely have a different outcome. 

Stoked for AP nonetheless. 

 

Tomac landed on Craig’s bike and was in 20th at one point.

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1/21/2024 11:00am
Boomslang wrote:
Cooper got in Chase's face much like Jett got in Anderson's face. It's called racing boys and shit happens.  Sexton tried to move out of the...

Cooper got in Chase's face much like Jett got in Anderson's face. It's called racing boys and shit happens. 

Sexton tried to move out of the way and unintentionally got in Webb's way. Webb will see that when he gets to watch the footage.

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No-no! Don’t be like that. Light the torches and bring out the forks, we want Webbs head for this just like people are going after Jett.

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No favoritism here. I think Webb is an entitled, arrogant whiner just like Jett. Only thing different is that Webb has actually made his mark with...

No favoritism here. I think Webb is an entitled, arrogant whiner just like Jett.

Only thing different is that Webb has actually made his mark with a couple titles, so he’s got that in his favor.

"entitled, arrogant whiner"

I am pretty certain that it is a common expectation of sportsmanship and etiquette for "a lapper" to go above and beyond in not interfering with the race for the lead among 1st and 2nd place battles.

Every racer in the world expects lappers to get completely out of line removing any possibility of effecting the the leaders of the race.

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1/21/2024 11:25am

Cooper Webb on San Diego: “He Knows What He’s Doing, I’ll Put It at That.” Sexton will probably disagree and claim no ill intent. Maybe he slid out of his line unintentionally, it's one of those mysteries that only Chase could know the answer to. Just another element of these races that make them so fun to watch.

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1/21/2024 11:28am

Coop will use any little scrap to build his chip.

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1/21/2024 11:54am
                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb...

                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb was very happy with Tomac. 

Magoofan wrote:
I got that too.        It was bizarre watching the broadcast and AP got around Eli easy....then I think Eli was like "frak....I don't...

I got that too.        It was bizarre watching the broadcast and AP got around Eli easy....then I think Eli was like "frak....I don't wanna pull a Chase this week" so he fought to not be lapped.         Rough main for Eli considering how dominant he was in the heat.   KInda shocking.    The track wasn't that bad....and  he excelled in the mud last week. 

Super impressed with Webb this year....he's got speed on that Yami.   If not for Chase incident, I think we would likely have a different outcome. 

Stoked for AP nonetheless. 

 

I don’t think it was a matter of Eli getting lapped, I think it was more of he latched on the the leader to try to pull him through the field to make up positions. 

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1/21/2024 11:54am

Webb did not hold up Sexton to help teammate Tomac in SF, but Sexton held Webb up to benefit teammate Plessinger. You can argue that it was accidental or Chase was too worried about Tomac , but I think it was at least an error in judgement. I don’t think it was purposeful like Musquin helping Dungey against Tomac, but it appears Webb thinks it was intentional. Racers know racers better than we ever will. 

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1/21/2024 11:55am

Chase is above that kind of crap.  Completely unintentional.  Had it been intentional, it wouldn't even be up for debate.  Everyone would know it. I like Coop, but he's trying to get into the wrong guy's head.  If he and Chase get into a squabble, its just going to leave the door wide open for Jett, Eli, and Kenny.  If Coop keeps this up, Chase will give him something to legitimately have a beef about, I mean if you are going to get blamed for the crime, might as well commit it then.  And that's how points battles for championships get screwed up.

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1/21/2024 11:57am
                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb...

                I am wondering about the vibe in the Star Yamaha rig. Does not sound to me like Webb was very happy with Tomac. 

Magoofan wrote:
I got that too.        It was bizarre watching the broadcast and AP got around Eli easy....then I think Eli was like "frak....I don't...

I got that too.        It was bizarre watching the broadcast and AP got around Eli easy....then I think Eli was like "frak....I don't wanna pull a Chase this week" so he fought to not be lapped.         Rough main for Eli considering how dominant he was in the heat.   KInda shocking.    The track wasn't that bad....and  he excelled in the mud last week. 

Super impressed with Webb this year....he's got speed on that Yami.   If not for Chase incident, I think we would likely have a different outcome. 

Stoked for AP nonetheless. 

 

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I don’t think it was a matter of Eli getting lapped, I think it was more of he latched on the the leader to try to...

I don’t think it was a matter of Eli getting lapped, I think it was more of he latched on the the leader to try to pull him through the field to make up positions. 

Good point.

1/21/2024 12:00pm
zman-scm wrote:

IMO looks like a racing incident , if anything Webb went wide

https://twitter.com/Dirtbike_Lovers/status/1749020811573268519

Lol at Cooper thinking that was intentional.  Just lol.  Somebody tell Chase no need to apologize.  Cooper, just go ride your fucking race next week and stop chirping.  I like ya a person and you're one hellava racer.  But just lol at being butthurt about that.

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1/21/2024 12:28pm
zman-scm wrote:

IMO looks like a racing incident , if anything Webb went wide

https://twitter.com/Dirtbike_Lovers/status/1749020811573268519

I guess Chase could have ran off the track to give Webb more room. He couldn’t get much closer to the edge without crashing. Webb had the whole inside and then went into sexton’s line on the outside. 

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1/21/2024 12:35pm

Cooper blaming Chase for that incident would be like Chase blaming Jett for falling in front of him last week. Both racing incidents. Coopers remarks are just Cooper being Cooper. I don’t think he can get in Chases head. 

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Mit12 wrote:
Cooper blaming Chase for that incident would be like Chase blaming Jett for falling in front of him last week. Both racing incidents. Coopers remarks are...

Cooper blaming Chase for that incident would be like Chase blaming Jett for falling in front of him last week. Both racing incidents. Coopers remarks are just Cooper being Cooper. I don’t think he can get in Chases head. 

I am pretty certain that it is a common expectation of sportsmanship and etiquette for "a lapper" to go above and beyond in not interfering with the race for the lead among 1st and 2nd place battles.

Every racer in the world expects lappers to get completely out of line removing any possibility of effecting the the leaders of the race.

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1/21/2024 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 1/21/2024 1:30pm
Mit12 wrote:
Cooper blaming Chase for that incident would be like Chase blaming Jett for falling in front of him last week. Both racing incidents. Coopers remarks are...

Cooper blaming Chase for that incident would be like Chase blaming Jett for falling in front of him last week. Both racing incidents. Coopers remarks are just Cooper being Cooper. I don’t think he can get in Chases head. 

William wrote:
I am pretty certain that it is a common expectation of sportsmanship and etiquette for "a lapper" to go above and beyond in not interfering with...

I am pretty certain that it is a common expectation of sportsmanship and etiquette for "a lapper" to go above and beyond in not interfering with the race for the lead among 1st and 2nd place battles.

Every racer in the world expects lappers to get completely out of line removing any possibility of effecting the the leaders of the race.

https://twitter.com/Dirtbike_Lovers/status/1749020811573268519
 

how much further to the outside can he go?

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1/21/2024 1:36pm Edited Date/Time 1/21/2024 1:57pm
Mit12 wrote:
Cooper blaming Chase for that incident would be like Chase blaming Jett for falling in front of him last week. Both racing incidents. Coopers remarks are...

Cooper blaming Chase for that incident would be like Chase blaming Jett for falling in front of him last week. Both racing incidents. Coopers remarks are just Cooper being Cooper. I don’t think he can get in Chases head. 

William wrote:
I am pretty certain that it is a common expectation of sportsmanship and etiquette for "a lapper" to go above and beyond in not interfering with...

I am pretty certain that it is a common expectation of sportsmanship and etiquette for "a lapper" to go above and beyond in not interfering with the race for the lead among 1st and 2nd place battles.

Every racer in the world expects lappers to get completely out of line removing any possibility of effecting the the leaders of the race.

cslacker wrote:
https://twitter.com/Dirtbike_Lovers/status/1749020811573268519   how much further to the outside can he go?

https://twitter.com/Dirtbike_Lovers/status/1749020811573268519
 

how much further to the outside can he go?

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In this situation,...A racer is going to expect (as Sexton would if the roles were reversed) for Chase to completely give way until Webb is cleared.

Lappers have no business being ANY factor whatsoever in the closing stages of a race win between 1st and 2nd place.

It looked like Sexton came down into Webbs line on exit of the corner. But I digress. It's not that big of a deal.

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1/21/2024 1:36pm
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Non-story to be honest.  Chase gave way to AP, then when Coop was coming through, Chase went wide out of the main line to let Coop...

Non-story to be honest.  Chase gave way to AP, then when Coop was coming through, Chase went wide out of the main line to let Coop through, but when he went wide, he looked back to see and Coop took the wide line to get around him and Chase got in the way.  Looked 100% unintentional.  I thought Coop's podium comment was about lappers tonight in general, but in the mud or slop, it is what it is.  Shit happens.  Again, this is a non-story IMO.  Fabricated drama.

Glad to hear Chase gave way to both sides.  

Coop was catching AP7. Sexton ended Coop's charge as he was being lapped. 
 

Chase "knew what he was doing."  - Coop

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1/21/2024 2:00pm

What caught my eye was how CS made a visible, successful effort to stay clear of Plessinger, then had a minor tangle with Webb. AP held pace with no delay, Webb lost a couple seconds or so, at a time when 2 seconds was a lot. I’m not saying anything about CS intentions, he probably didn’t mean to slow Webb, but the appearance of team tactics is there. And we all know, that’s more than enough to spin up the drama 

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1/21/2024 2:00pm

Someone mentioned recently that all of these little incidents and head games involving Webb that get used as evidence of his mental toughness can just as easily be interpreted as mental weakness. This is just another example. Whining about this in every post race interview and press conference seems pretty soft to me but the fans will see it as him looking for that edge.

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1/21/2024 2:08pm
zman-scm wrote:

IMO looks like a racing incident , if anything Webb went wide

https://twitter.com/Dirtbike_Lovers/status/1749020811573268519

wrc777 wrote:
I guess Chase could have ran off the track to give Webb more room. He couldn’t get much closer to the edge without crashing. Webb had...

I guess Chase could have ran off the track to give Webb more room. He couldn’t get much closer to the edge without crashing. Webb had the whole inside and then went into sexton’s line on the outside. 

They met close to the middle of the jump, and Sexton was closer to the left after the hit. What race were you watching?

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zman-scm wrote:

IMO looks like a racing incident , if anything Webb went wide

https://twitter.com/Dirtbike_Lovers/status/1749020811573268519

wrc777 wrote:
I guess Chase could have ran off the track to give Webb more room. He couldn’t get much closer to the edge without crashing. Webb had...

I guess Chase could have ran off the track to give Webb more room. He couldn’t get much closer to the edge without crashing. Webb had the whole inside and then went into sexton’s line on the outside. 

supercuss wrote:

They met close to the middle of the jump, and Sexton was closer to the left after the hit. What race were you watching?

Looks like Webb starts on the left side of the track and crosses the centerline and gets into it with Sexton. Sexton moves left after contact probably partially due to the contact and how slick it was. The very next corner sexton takes the outside line again but this time Webb goes inside and stays inside. Watch the video. Webb has at least half the lane to work with. It was slick and he probably drifted wide on accident. 

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1/21/2024 7:24pm

I thought it was interesting that in the post-race interview, Cooper said he was not that upset. He then went on to say that chase was really hot about the incident. Sort of a head scratcher as to why...

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