Is anyone surprised, F'in Friese

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He tangled with Deano and went down before the rhythm section down the first baseline. Vince’s bike was stuck on Dean’s, Dean couldn’t get it off...

He tangled with Deano and went down before the rhythm section down the first baseline. Vince’s bike was stuck on Dean’s, Dean couldn’t get it off, and Vince literally walked off the track with his bike still on top of Dean’s. Just straight to the tunnel. 

“Job well done”

 

*Walks away with explosions going off behind him*

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1/6/2024 8:48pm

Definitely not on Friese lol. 

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1/6/2024 8:51pm

That was absolutely not Vince’s fault. 

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Press516 wrote:
I watched it 3 times…. Simply not Vince’s fault.  I can’t stand the guy but have to call it like it is.  He was well ahead...

I watched it 3 times…. Simply not Vince’s fault.  I can’t stand the guy but have to call it like it is.  He was well ahead and the line choice was his.

I agree with this comment. Racing incident.

Then the lcq was just a brain fart or something. 

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If you don't think Friese is going to dive in when he is ahead of you to get the holeshot, you are dreaming. 

Legit move, just a racing incident. 

 

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you can be a bike length ahead but still cut across too aggressively /sharply which is what freise did. HOWEVER I have seen hunter do this himself when going for the championship last year

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Would really like to have a pit cam livestream at his pit area weekly!  He could make bank of the views alone.  You know the comments would be golden. 

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1/6/2024 8:57pm

As much as I don't care for "crash friese", the heat race could have been avoided by hunter backing down. In the main, Probably also racing incident. But, this drama around this guy is off the charts.

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The shit in the main happened behind friese.... Malcolm got loose.... collected some guys. 

As much as I hate Vince I'd like to maintain some credibility in my hatred and stay objective. Don't need to stretch for reasons to hate him, give it time and he'll give you plenty of clear examples. 

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truck wrote:
The shit in the main happened behind friese.... Malcolm got loose.... collected some guys.  As much as I hate Vince I'd like to maintain some credibility...

The shit in the main happened behind friese.... Malcolm got loose.... collected some guys. 

As much as I hate Vince I'd like to maintain some credibility in my hatred and stay objective. Don't need to stretch for reasons to hate him, give it time and he'll give you plenty of clear examples. 

Wrong.  They were right next to eachother about dead even.  The pic is a split second before Malcom went down.  20240106 224156.jpeg?VersionId= R
 

They either tangled bars or it looked like Vince’s elbow went up and bike jerked into Malcom. Hard to tell exactly what happened and who did what.

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1/6/2024 9:58pm

Did he get black flagged in the main?

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truck wrote:
The shit in the main happened behind friese.... Malcolm got loose.... collected some guys.  As much as I hate Vince I'd like to maintain some credibility...

The shit in the main happened behind friese.... Malcolm got loose.... collected some guys. 

As much as I hate Vince I'd like to maintain some credibility in my hatred and stay objective. Don't need to stretch for reasons to hate him, give it time and he'll give you plenty of clear examples. 

Shred wrote:
Wrong.  They were right next to eachother about dead even.  The pic is a split second before Malcom went down.     They either tangled bars...

Wrong.  They were right next to eachother about dead even.  The pic is a split second before Malcom went down.  20240106 224156.jpeg?VersionId= R
 

They either tangled bars or it looked like Vince’s elbow went up and bike jerked into Malcom. Hard to tell exactly what happened and who did what.

Yeah cool..... they at one point were next to each other..... then they weren't and Malcolm went down..... you're seeing what you want to see but there's nothing there....

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1/6/2024 10:03pm Edited Date/Time 1/6/2024 10:06pm
mbw479 wrote:

Did he get black flagged in the main?

No, like someone else said above he just tangled with Wilson then walked off the track lol. I was there in person and didn’t catch what led up to it but the both came together after a bowl turn 

he was looking at his hand/arm it looked like as he walked off 

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truck wrote:
The shit in the main happened behind friese.... Malcolm got loose.... collected some guys.  As much as I hate Vince I'd like to maintain some credibility...

The shit in the main happened behind friese.... Malcolm got loose.... collected some guys. 

As much as I hate Vince I'd like to maintain some credibility in my hatred and stay objective. Don't need to stretch for reasons to hate him, give it time and he'll give you plenty of clear examples. 

Shred wrote:
Wrong.  They were right next to eachother about dead even.  The pic is a split second before Malcom went down.     They either tangled bars...

Wrong.  They were right next to eachother about dead even.  The pic is a split second before Malcom went down.  20240106 224156.jpeg?VersionId= R
 

They either tangled bars or it looked like Vince’s elbow went up and bike jerked into Malcom. Hard to tell exactly what happened and who did what.

truck wrote:
Yeah cool..... they at one point were next to each other..... then they weren't and Malcolm went down..... you're seeing what you want to see but...

Yeah cool..... they at one point were next to each other..... then they weren't and Malcolm went down..... you're seeing what you want to see but there's nothing there....

Dude.  That is about 1000th of a second before he went down.  The contact may have been grips tangling they were so close to dead even.

Anybody that isn’t smoking crack that wants to see what actually happened can go to 2:28:05 in the broadcast.  It happens at 2:28:11.

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1/6/2024 10:27pm
Gary Duck wrote:
Almost a full bike length ahead going for the holeshot.   

Almost a full bike length ahead going for the holeshot. 

 

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WillGoody3 wrote:
This was after hunter hit the brakes, you can’t come from all the way outside and cut that deep in unless you are way out front...

This was after hunter hit the brakes, you can’t come from all the way outside and cut that deep in unless you are way out front, which clearly he wasn’t because he took out 3 dudes! Friese is a clown 

If I’m on the outside and have a near bike length on you at the start, I am running you into the corner 100% of the time. 

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1/6/2024 10:27pm Edited Date/Time 1/6/2024 10:47pm

VF, creating great Vital Forum Content for free, what a nice guy haha.

Didn't think there was to much wrong with what he actually did, and certainly clearly had the lead going into turn 1, but as most say what is the point of him doing that, he and everyone else knows he is going to fade back to 8th.

Why not reduce the risk, run it a little wider, come out of turn 1 between 1st and 3rd and finish in 8th anyway without causing the carnage.

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Magoofan wrote:

You're fucking brain dead if you think that was on Vince.

 

I swear, the fans of this sport get dumber every year.

 

SX_336 wrote:

 Vince came all the way from the OUTSIDE. He knew  EXACTLY what he was doing. You’re the dumbass here. 

The thing why does not happen to other riders as frequently ?  They all race close yet for the most part with respect to other riders. VF just has no respect for other riders since he is not fast enough to race his way to a good finish he has to ride other riders to a worst position. That is the main point of difference . its relative and in comparison too other racers.   
 

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Gary Duck wrote:
Almost a full bike length ahead going for the holeshot.   

Almost a full bike length ahead going for the holeshot. 

 

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WillGoody3 wrote:
This was after hunter hit the brakes, you can’t come from all the way outside and cut that deep in unless you are way out front...

This was after hunter hit the brakes, you can’t come from all the way outside and cut that deep in unless you are way out front, which clearly he wasn’t because he took out 3 dudes! Friese is a clown 

shawnbrown wrote:
If I’m on the outside and have a near bike length on you at the start, I am running you into the corner 100% of the...

If I’m on the outside and have a near bike length on you at the start, I am running you into the corner 100% of the time. 

Im not saying don’t close the door or run into the corner, but he was absolutely way outside and ended up on the very inside on the exit of the corner. 
There’s nothing Hunter could’ve done to not hit the deck, and in my opinion that’s just wrong and dangerous in a first turn. He just has zero regard or respect for anyone else on the track, and not in a good racing/confidence way but in a dangerous way. 

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As can be seen from 1 2 3  he is the only rider cutting across in front of the pack. There is no way he did not know 96 was right next to him. He cut across regardless - Note everyone else space between riders remain fairly consistent. He is the only one cutting across in front of the pack as can been seen in these frames.  Which if course one can do , yet its is clearly a bitch move when you have a rider half way along side and you just turn into him regardless. Who does that ? Complete disrespect for other riders. Most races would give each other space to race as it where as they know what it means to have the same happen to them. 

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The last pic. Everyone is still pointed straight, BUT VF who is turning right. 

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There’s a thing called “racing room”. Particularly during the 1st few corners. 
We all know how dangerous this sport is, cutting off front wheels in a 1st turn is moronic. Especially when you’re up the front. 
And here we are again, same tool, same MO. 
 

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iudi2006 wrote:
I don’t know what the fuck you guys are talking about, Friese was completely at fault for that takeout. He cut across and gave Hunter no...

I don’t know what the fuck you guys are talking about, Friese was completely at fault for that takeout. He cut across and gave Hunter no chance. 
 

Certified clown. 

PRO TIP: when you are a half a bike length ahead you get to do whatever you want and everyone else behind you has to figure it out. It's called getting a "holeshot"

Just ask anyone who has ever raced against Emig. 

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Coming all the way from the outside and cutting hard towards the inside. Highly doubt anyone saw him coming until it was too late. They had...

Coming all the way from the outside and cutting hard towards the inside. Highly doubt anyone saw him coming until it was too late. They had nowhere to go.

Normally I would give anyone else a benefit of the doubt, but it’s Vince Friese….He knew what would happen and doesn’t care. Just how he rides. It is what it is.

That's where I'm at, it didn't look malicious and it definitely wasn't what you'd class as a take out. For anyone else it's 'meh, shit happens'.

But absolutely no surprise that it's fucking Freise... in the heat Hunter, and others, get hung up on Freise and go down.

Then in the main Roczen and Malcolm hit the deck, start from wayyyy back, due to a run in with Freise.

There is a theme there regardless of anything else. Instead of watching Kenny, Malcolm and maybe even Hunter mixing it up at the sharp end, that's what we got. The guy is a piece.

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1/7/2024 2:51am

As much As I don't like Friese that was entirely on Hunter. 

Hunter could have backed off a tad or he could have done what Friese did...start turning left with Friese but that would have caused even more carnage.

Hunter's start in the LCQ was piss poor to say the least.

He is 25 markers down but it's only round 1.

He learnt something tonight and it won't happen again.

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SX_336 wrote:

The last pic. Everyone is still pointed straight, BUT VF who is turning right. 

Because when you’re the first to the turn, you have to turn first. Hunter should have been thinking “Well, this douche bag is ahead of me, I should probably give him a few inches”. 

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1/7/2024 4:55am
-MAVERICK- wrote:

And just like that, he's out. 

Hopefully someone roosted him in the nuts and he couldn’t continue 

He tangled with Deano and went down before the rhythm section down the first baseline. Vince’s bike was stuck on Dean’s, Dean couldn’t get it off...

He tangled with Deano and went down before the rhythm section down the first baseline. Vince’s bike was stuck on Dean’s, Dean couldn’t get it off, and Vince literally walked off the track with his bike still on top of Dean’s. Just straight to the tunnel. 

Watch Swap's "How was your weekend" from last night. Dean, well let's just say, he's not a fan of Vince.

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1/7/2024 5:31am

Vince has such a negative aura that even when something isn’t his fault (rarely), he does enough disrespectful, stupid shit to where there is still reason to blame him. That’s just the way he rides. 

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1/7/2024 5:54am

I just chalked it up to a racing incident. 50/50 with whoever you want to put the blame on. Things to expect in a first turn right hander.  

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