Carson Brown and Red Bull

So Carson Brown is a Red Bull athlete as of about 8 months ago ish. Obviously they picked him up for the content and not because he's winning races. What kind of money do you think Red Bull is paying him? I know I'd do it for the helmets and opportunities for content, but I'm sure his bank felt good too! any guesses? anyone with inside info? Love the head to head videos with KR and Carson! I think its great that Red Bull sees the talent and benefits of having a guy like Carson and not just looking for race winners

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So Carson Brown is a Red Bull athlete as of about 8 months ago ish. Obviously they picked him up for the content and not because...

So Carson Brown is a Red Bull athlete as of about 8 months ago ish. Obviously they picked him up for the content and not because he's winning races. What kind of money do you think Red Bull is paying him? I know I'd do it for the helmets and opportunities for content, but I'm sure his bank felt good too! any guesses? anyone with inside info? Love the head to head videos with KR and Carson! I think its great that Red Bull sees the talent and benefits of having a guy like Carson and not just looking for race winners

I’m guessing free merch. $200/mo maybe.

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12/21/2023 1:01pm
burn1986 wrote:

I’m guessing free merch. $200/mo maybe.

Wishful thinking... Probably 69% off discounts for Redbull merchWoohoo

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Red Bull has all kind of money. Because there distribution of there product in the USA they use slaves and outside 3rd party contractors and warehouses.  Shame on you rb. I refused to pull with a pallet jack the 2,400k lb pallets 400 yards to stage at a dock. And pull the 1 in thick plywood off. And do count at the dock. The illegals they hire don’t know how to count. They hv forklifts but insisted on truck drivers to be there slaves. I said sorry but I,m a slave to no one including Red Bull.  Told them I,m leaving and called the broker. He tried to say I hv to do it. Haha I left there’s thousands of loads. I don’t need to embarrass myself as a man. That’s how red bull pays the big wages for the so called athletes. They take advantage of the 3.rd world black drivers , treating them like shit & bossing them around. Sad to see this in America yet. But it is the trucking industry. 

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What would you pay him?

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I don’t the an exact figure at all but I know a small redbull athlete that is from abroad made around $2k a month when he first signed a few years ago. He doesn’t really have an Instagram following, a bit less than 10k followers.

I know a rockstar athlete, not in MX/SX, from abroad aswell but another country that the first athlete above. Has around 60k followers and post A LOT about his sponsors to keep them happy, lots of his stories are sponsors advertisements. I remember his making around $5k to $6k a month from rockstar if I remember right. He has more sponsors that he promotes like car dealership, local gym, products,..

So for me Carson with 425k followers on Instagram alone, over 200k subs on YouTube and idk on Facebook and tiktok, posts everyday, produce lots of viral Moto contents, 2 strokes, people love him,… he is really marketable that’s why redbull uses him for content. He has to make wayy more that those 2 previous guys. Plus he is signed by redbull USA, they have a much bigger marketing budget than redbull or rockstar in smaller countries.

 

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With the rate that this sport chew people up and spits them out it’s good to guys know when to throw in the towel with the racing scheme and be able to make a living while doing what they love 

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Whatever he gets paid its worth it. A supercross main event doesnt get me half as stoked to ride as a 30 second clip of Carson ripping his backyard track on a 98 XR 70. 

 

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What would you pay him?

motokiwi wrote:

150k

I was thinking 50. How many redbulls do you have to sell to pay off 150k?

12/22/2023 6:39pm

I was thinking 50. How many redbulls do you have to sell to pay off 150k?

Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined. 

 

And he is the son of moto royalty with BBR. Every super fan respects that and the bikes they have built, and he has access too etc

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I was guessing $80k (before taxes for Keefer).

its a win/win for sure!  Love the content.

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I was thinking 50. How many redbulls do you have to sell to pay off 150k?

motokiwi wrote:
Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined.    And he is the son...

Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined. 

 

And he is the son of moto royalty with BBR. Every super fan respects that and the bikes they have built, and he has access too etc

Doubt it

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I was thinking 50. How many redbulls do you have to sell to pay off 150k?

motokiwi wrote:
Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined.    And he is the son...

Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined. 

 

And he is the son of moto royalty with BBR. Every super fan respects that and the bikes they have built, and he has access too etc

For as rad as he is, he’s not getting more eyeballs on a Red Bull helmet than Tyler Bereman. 

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I was thinking 50. How many redbulls do you have to sell to pay off 150k?

motokiwi wrote:
Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined.    And he is the son...

Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined. 

 

And he is the son of moto royalty with BBR. Every super fan respects that and the bikes they have built, and he has access too etc

Sully wrote:

For as rad as he is, he’s not getting more eyeballs on a Red Bull helmet than Tyler Bereman. 

I see more of Browns content than Beremsns 🤷‍♂️

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12/23/2023 5:14am Edited Date/Time 12/23/2023 5:15am
motokiwi wrote:
Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined.    And he is the son...

Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined. 

 

And he is the son of moto royalty with BBR. Every super fan respects that and the bikes they have built, and he has access too etc

Sully wrote:

For as rad as he is, he’s not getting more eyeballs on a Red Bull helmet than Tyler Bereman. 

yak651 wrote:

I see more of Browns content than Beremsns 🤷‍♂️

That’s anecdotal based on your YouTube algorithm. Go look at view numbers for Carson’s videos vs. Bereman. Carson’s 85/125 videos with Kenny had some of his highest views, but when you compare his average views to Bereman’s average views, it’s nowhere near the same. 

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12/23/2023 6:39am Edited Date/Time 12/23/2023 6:57am
Sully wrote:

For as rad as he is, he’s not getting more eyeballs on a Red Bull helmet than Tyler Bereman. 

yak651 wrote:

I see more of Browns content than Beremsns 🤷‍♂️

Sully wrote:
That’s anecdotal based on your YouTube algorithm. Go look at view numbers for Carson’s videos vs. Bereman. Carson’s 85/125 videos with Kenny had some of his...

That’s anecdotal based on your YouTube algorithm. Go look at view numbers for Carson’s videos vs. Bereman. Carson’s 85/125 videos with Kenny had some of his highest views, but when you compare his average views to Bereman’s average views, it’s nowhere near the same. 

Bereman has 300k followers on Instagram. Brown has 400k and posts multiple times a week.

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yak651 wrote:

I see more of Browns content than Beremsns 🤷‍♂️

Sully wrote:
That’s anecdotal based on your YouTube algorithm. Go look at view numbers for Carson’s videos vs. Bereman. Carson’s 85/125 videos with Kenny had some of his...

That’s anecdotal based on your YouTube algorithm. Go look at view numbers for Carson’s videos vs. Bereman. Carson’s 85/125 videos with Kenny had some of his highest views, but when you compare his average views to Bereman’s average views, it’s nowhere near the same. 

kage173 wrote:

Bereman has 300k followers on Instagram. Brown has 400k and posts multiple times a week.

Right, I was just offering my personal experience. Plus I’ve never searched for a Bereman video where I have for a Brown. Again just my personal likes so doesn’t mean anything in the big picture, I’m 52 years old so not the target Redbull audience 😂

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Im 55. I drink 2 or 3 small redbulls per week. Huge fan of Carson Brown. Barely know who Tyler Berman is. As a side note I drank 1 small redbull per day for about 15 years. A few years ago I started drinking coffee.  Cut out the red bull completely . Then fired back up again . Im still alive.

 

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12/23/2023 9:13am Edited Date/Time 12/23/2023 12:19pm
Sully wrote:
That’s anecdotal based on your YouTube algorithm. Go look at view numbers for Carson’s videos vs. Bereman. Carson’s 85/125 videos with Kenny had some of his...

That’s anecdotal based on your YouTube algorithm. Go look at view numbers for Carson’s videos vs. Bereman. Carson’s 85/125 videos with Kenny had some of his highest views, but when you compare his average views to Bereman’s average views, it’s nowhere near the same. 

The super fan enthusiast with more clout watches every single Carson Brown video, and no free riding.

- it's SO MUCH more appealing seeing Carson do a triple on an xr400, or scrub an old Z50 than it will EVER be seeing "free riders" do big gaps on their generic 450s.

 

-Nearly every Carson video gets forwarded to my good moto friends group chat where we all comment about it, no one posts free riding because it boring af and the personalities try and be too cool all the time.

In a nutshell: we all wish we were Carson Brown, not Tyler Bereman or Ken Roczen etc

 

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12/23/2023 9:18am

I can only hope Carson’s got a very solid gig goin with Red Bull. The dude is good for the sport I love and for such a young dude…he’s very “old school”. 

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12/23/2023 10:16am
Red Bull has all kind of money. Because there distribution of there product in the USA they use slaves and outside 3rd party contractors and warehouses...

Red Bull has all kind of money. Because there distribution of there product in the USA they use slaves and outside 3rd party contractors and warehouses.  Shame on you rb. I refused to pull with a pallet jack the 2,400k lb pallets 400 yards to stage at a dock. And pull the 1 in thick plywood off. And do count at the dock. The illegals they hire don’t know how to count. They hv forklifts but insisted on truck drivers to be there slaves. I said sorry but I,m a slave to no one including Red Bull.  Told them I,m leaving and called the broker. He tried to say I hv to do it. Haha I left there’s thousands of loads. I don’t need to embarrass myself as a man. That’s how red bull pays the big wages for the so called athletes. They take advantage of the 3.rd world black drivers , treating them like shit & bossing them around. Sad to see this in America yet. But it is the trucking industry. 

Sorry to pick on ya Red Bull and I apologize. I waited 3 1/2 hrs for a shower in Boise . Then 2 hrs for an omelette that I need an chainsaw to get through. Get up at 1.50am to drive in dense fog , hit a snow storm on i90 b4Seattle. Unld 7 600 printers at the airport for free in 39 degrees with rain . Next stop just closed & says Tuesday. Still sitting in street. No parking in the state. All Beverage lds r cheap not only rb. Co.s that do them don’t scrape the bottom of the barrel. They cut the bottom off then scrape the bottom of the bottom’s barrel. Pepsi co , coke or any ones liquid pays nothing. Ache greatful that any of it makes to a store. Because they run some nasty dangerous equipment. A driver in Florida fell asleep pulling a beverage ld & hit a loaded stopped school bus. He killed most of them. All co.s used that in there safety of what your possible of. A lot of pics , pretty brutal 

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12/23/2023 12:13pm

I heard 150 plus a content allowance. 

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12/23/2023 12:32pm
Sully wrote:

For as rad as he is, he’s not getting more eyeballs on a Red Bull helmet than Tyler Bereman. 

yak651 wrote:

I see more of Browns content than Beremsns 🤷‍♂️

Sully wrote:
That’s anecdotal based on your YouTube algorithm. Go look at view numbers for Carson’s videos vs. Bereman. Carson’s 85/125 videos with Kenny had some of his...

That’s anecdotal based on your YouTube algorithm. Go look at view numbers for Carson’s videos vs. Bereman. Carson’s 85/125 videos with Kenny had some of his highest views, but when you compare his average views to Bereman’s average views, it’s nowhere near the same. 

I can't even find Bereman's youtube channel. All my search brings up is the actual Red Bull Motosports youtube channel with Bereman in the videos. 

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12/23/2023 12:42pm

I was thinking 50. How many redbulls do you have to sell to pay off 150k?

motokiwi wrote:
Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined.    And he is the son...

Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined. 

 

And he is the son of moto royalty with BBR. Every super fan respects that and the bikes they have built, and he has access too etc

Sully wrote:

For as rad as he is, he’s not getting more eyeballs on a Red Bull helmet than Tyler Bereman. 

He’s not getting more eyeballs on him than any privateer who holeshots/gets a good start at southwick does. 
I would probably guess red bull got him for free because they knew the benefit it had for him, let’s be fair the biggest news about Carson this year is that he has a red bull helmet 

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12/23/2023 12:43pm
Red Bull has all kind of money. Because there distribution of there product in the USA they use slaves and outside 3rd party contractors and warehouses...

Red Bull has all kind of money. Because there distribution of there product in the USA they use slaves and outside 3rd party contractors and warehouses.  Shame on you rb. I refused to pull with a pallet jack the 2,400k lb pallets 400 yards to stage at a dock. And pull the 1 in thick plywood off. And do count at the dock. The illegals they hire don’t know how to count. They hv forklifts but insisted on truck drivers to be there slaves. I said sorry but I,m a slave to no one including Red Bull.  Told them I,m leaving and called the broker. He tried to say I hv to do it. Haha I left there’s thousands of loads. I don’t need to embarrass myself as a man. That’s how red bull pays the big wages for the so called athletes. They take advantage of the 3.rd world black drivers , treating them like shit & bossing them around. Sad to see this in America yet. But it is the trucking industry. 

Sorry to pick on ya Red Bull and I apologize. I waited 3 1/2 hrs for a shower in Boise . Then 2 hrs for an...

Sorry to pick on ya Red Bull and I apologize. I waited 3 1/2 hrs for a shower in Boise . Then 2 hrs for an omelette that I need an chainsaw to get through. Get up at 1.50am to drive in dense fog , hit a snow storm on i90 b4Seattle. Unld 7 600 printers at the airport for free in 39 degrees with rain . Next stop just closed & says Tuesday. Still sitting in street. No parking in the state. All Beverage lds r cheap not only rb. Co.s that do them don’t scrape the bottom of the barrel. They cut the bottom off then scrape the bottom of the bottom’s barrel. Pepsi co , coke or any ones liquid pays nothing. Ache greatful that any of it makes to a store. Because they run some nasty dangerous equipment. A driver in Florida fell asleep pulling a beverage ld & hit a loaded stopped school bus. He killed most of them. All co.s used that in there safety of what your possible of. A lot of pics , pretty brutal 

Does monster energy pay your salary?

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12/23/2023 1:05pm
motokiwi wrote:
Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined.    And he is the son...

Carson Brown shredding all sorts of bikes has to be worth more than all the RB sponsored FMX athletes combined. 

 

And he is the son of moto royalty with BBR. Every super fan respects that and the bikes they have built, and he has access too etc

Sully wrote:

For as rad as he is, he’s not getting more eyeballs on a Red Bull helmet than Tyler Bereman. 

He’s not getting more eyeballs on him than any privateer who holeshots/gets a good start at southwick does.  I would probably guess red bull got him...

He’s not getting more eyeballs on him than any privateer who holeshots/gets a good start at southwick does. 
I would probably guess red bull got him for free because they knew the benefit it had for him, let’s be fair the biggest news about Carson this year is that he has a red bull helmet 

Carson is a one of a kind rider doing content that no one else does. He has a his own niche and the sky is the limit with Carson which is why we signed him. He just needs some resources and he will continue to carve his own lane in the sport. While you say he is the same as any other privateer, we don't see it that way at all. I can show anyone who doesn't ride a video of Carson on any motorcycle on his IG feed and could do a hell of a job convincing them that Carson is one of the fastest guys on a dirtbike in the world, that eye test with a other athletes wouldn't work.  

We are lucky to have him and excited to show you what else we have coming down the pipe. 

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12/23/2023 1:09pm

As a former employee of Red Bull, I can tell you that most of their athletes don't get paid much, if anything at all. They were much more likely to sponsor a project or trip that the athlete wanted to do in exchange for content. They're very aware of the prestige that comes with wearing the coveted Red Bull helmet and they use that in their contract negotiations.

It sounds like a bum deal for the athletes, but the reality is that being a Red Bull athlete opens many other doors and gives the athlete much more negotiating power when signing other sponsors, so even though they're not making a whole lot directly from Red Bull, they end up making a lot more through other channels. 

 

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