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When he says “Dads”…I think he’s referring to these bikes and the fact that they allow kids to ride in places where typical i.c.e. bikes wouldn’t be allowed.
There’s an entire population of dads with enough disposable income to purchase a Varg just for the exclusivity. Factor in lower maintenance and ease of use, and Stark should sustain strong demand, regardless of AMA & FIM regulations.
Jeez maybe time for a Xanax. What does the CR stand for?
Tracks in towns sounds great, but most of the towns around the world I have been to have much higher property prices in-town, than out-of-town areas.
Any MX track will need multiple acres of prime potential building land in a town, that land has to be purchased or rented at a high price .
That high price has to be passed onto anyone who wants to ride at said in-town track, maybe riders will be happy to pay double or more than they usually pay, but I doubt it.
And of course neighbours won't complain about dust , or the never ending sound of generators.
And an ebike won't free up lots of time compared to an ICE bike .
Does an ebike wash itself ?
Does an ebike have self adjusting chain ?,
are ebike tyres everlasting, never need changing ?
etc. etc. etc.
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"In town" can mean alot of things, like Rattrays facility in Florida that got shut down over noise issues.
"Maintenance" is referring to air filters, oil changes, top ends, and bottom ends.
Washing the bike, adjusting the chain, changing tires? Really grasping at straws here, if you can't do that stick to video games.
Back in the 70's CR meant "Close Ratio". WR meant Wide Ratio. Its just a designation for the use of the motorcycle. But a person could easily argue it means "Competition Racer"..
Say you and a kid both race. Air filter maintenance, driving somewhere to get race fuel, 250f top end every 50 hours etc. even if you are fast and do the top end your self,6 hours is wasted. Then there is clutch replacement and silencer repacking.
A track inside city would need to work with the parks and recreation department. It has been done before.
Also honda sells a CRF - E2 and to differentiate between racing and non racing they sell a CRF250R and CRF250F… which I assume is Race and Farm (just a guess) - actually reading the website they are in the Kids Fun and Trail section. And sometimes they get an L on the end instead of an F… L seems to mean legal, but then theres the CRF450RL which means Road Legal… so I don’t really know what the single L means… is it an immigration thing? (Jokes jokes)
But the point is within the honda brand, they sell a CRF that isn’t a four stroke and have multiple version of what F means… and multiple versions of what L means…
oh and Kawasaki recently just got rid of the F. They sell a KX85 and KX250… Also they sell a KX450X where the X means Cross-country and a KLX450R which is a detuned 2006 KX450F where I assumed the R was for Race but they sell a KLX140R which is definitely not a race bike so what does the R mean?
moral of story, we don’t know shit and we shouldn’t assume shit and should just finish our shit and log off. I bidet you a good day sir or madam.
Maybe you could switch to decaf…
Honda's original naming convention stood for the bike's intended use...
CR - course racer
XR - cross country racer
XL - cross country leisure
CB - city bike
CBR - city bike racer
VT - vee twin
VTR - vee twin racer
VFR - vee four racer
Yamaha used "WR" to designate wide ratio, Honda hasn't used this designation.
When the CRF line was introduced it stood for...
CRF - course racer four stroke
the XR line was then discontinued, Honda added "R", "X" and "L" and "F" to the end of the CRF designate for racer, cross country, leisure and fun!
Honda's naming convention after the introduction of the CRF was thrown out, now the letters after the bike's nominal engine capacity designate different usage for off road bikes.
Can you guess why Honda's works motocross bikes were named RC250M and RC500M?
I think it stood for MUMMAMIATHATSANICEABIKEA
i could be wrong though?
You are Not the target demographic for a Stark, or any other E Bike.
Simply because you are so vehemently against E Bikes, currently. Stark etc are certainly Not targeting you.
You're not being forced or coerced into buying one, just relax, buy and ride the bikes you like / want, and enjoy life.
I'm No E bike 'fanatic', but, everything I have seen and read about the Vargs, informs me it could do what I want in my local riding. Now, because I've got a lot of 'repairs' to do on my old body, I won't be buying a new Dirt Bike for a few years - it would just be a waste of money.
But, by the time I'm 'tuned up', I think there will be a good selection of serious E Dirt Bikes for me to choose from, while still having my ICEs, and buying more of them.
Why carry on so much about E Bikes, MxAddic? As I wrote earlier, no one is forcing you to buy one, I see no one here saying YOU, or anyone else HAS to have one. Go out and ride, the bike(s) you've got now, and whatever you buy next.
Riding Motorcycles, is Fun!
Then can we please stop pretending this is going to be so great for vet races when nobody can come up with a reason to justify the cost other than someone wants and electric choo choo.
They knew Ricky Carmichael would eventually race for them ?
Who exactly are you? We’ve seen (false) photos of your wife, and a lot of posts of your opinions.The people who visit this forum website are interested in dirt bikes. And enjoy discussing dirt bikes. They are not interested in subjective opinions of arrogant trolls.
At best you are a pest. Please shut up and fuck off.
can a moderator please make this go away?
Funny, like saying the RC valve is the Ricky Carmichael valve...
Instead of Honda's official name "Revolutionaly Controlled Valve"...
https://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/motor/CR/199907/CR_002.html
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Double what you have ever spent is telling. It’s telling you haven’t bought new for a while or haven’t paid retail for a while. So if paying retail is not for you then there’s another reason you aren’t the target demo.
every potential and actual advantage has been litigated and relitigated and blah blah blah and you still come back with ‘Yeah but you haven’t convinced me’ as if a person who is not the target demo is the person anyone is trying to convince. As if you not being convinced is some sorta ‘gotcha suckers’ when really it just shows your ignorance and inability to think beyond your own nose.
In terms of why is it more expensive? Well the difference is on par with equivalent ICE v EV cars. And the Model 3 is at time the highest selling vehicle in its class so clearly there’s a market that isn’t you… do you complain about womens bras not being for you also? Or children’s toys, since they aren’t for you I’m sure you spend all day decrying their existence to every child with any potential interest… I mean cool I guess. Real cool. I bet you are fun at parties and in any situation where’s there’s an opinion different to your opinion.
The DAF Vital whining militia in full action mode... "Everyone I don't agree with is a troll, a hater and should be banished."
Pityful.
Criticizing someone for posting his opinions on a forum, lol... They're just as valuable as yours, just like Beagle's are as relevant as mine (or the other way round), even though I disagree with him on almost everything.
I would argue it actually increases the validity as they are unable to come up with a logical or non hostile response. Of course the Etards will never see it that way.
"The ability to accept and associate with people with diverse perspectives is a form of tolerance. Individuals who are capable of high levels of tolerance enjoy a greater level of well-being and hence mental health."
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/my-side-the-couch/202101/do-you…
Honda does NOT sell the CRF-E2. Greenger Powersports sells it. Honda has only allowed them to use their name and plastics on it in exchange for a portion of the $ale$ profit.
This is a vendor supplied product sold at Honda dealers and BRANDED by Honda.
Honda named it the CRF-E2 and granted Greenger license to use the product name and branding (as well as co-designing and co-developing the bike). When you had your little tantrum and called gravel "stupid" for referring to a CRFe, you were wrong.
I'm interested to see where the E mx world progresses in the next decade. I see the benefits of electric. But having been around about 5 stupid battery hover boards that quit working. As well as constant problems with stacycs its going to take some convincing to drop 15k unless its got proven reliability for me. I've been heavily jaded by battery powered things. If any company has the track record to prove its a capable machine its Honda.
Yeah those hoverboard were so silly. But they were also toys and basing EV experience on a toy is like basing your ICE experience on a Canondale...
You’re the one that can’t carry on a honest conversation. A point gets brought up against you and you post a music video instead of conversating.
Nope sorry try again. NOBODY on this board thinks you want to carry an honest conversation with me. The only time you engage me you are trying to goad me into doing or saying something you can twist and use against me.
You're fucking pathetic.
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