FC350 Xtrig or Luxon?

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8/27/2023 9:06am
RMolly wrote:

Are you a pro rider looking for that 10th of a second? If the answer is no, stick to the stock clamps. Ktm ain't no mugs.

What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he not buy them since he’s not a pro?

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8/27/2023 9:59am
RMolly wrote:

Are you a pro rider looking for that 10th of a second? If the answer is no, stick to the stock clamps. Ktm ain't no mugs.

AJ565 wrote:
What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he...

What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he not buy them since he’s not a pro?

A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about imo.

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8/27/2023 10:24am
RMolly wrote:

Are you a pro rider looking for that 10th of a second? If the answer is no, stick to the stock clamps. Ktm ain't no mugs.

AJ565 wrote:
What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he...

What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he not buy them since he’s not a pro?

RMolly wrote:
A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about...

A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about imo.

Lol dude can the holier than thou bullshit. Nobody cares about your opinion when you’re shitting on people spending money on trick parts 

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8/27/2023 10:44am
AJ565 wrote:
What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he...

What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he not buy them since he’s not a pro?

RMolly wrote:
A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about...

A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about imo.

zehn wrote:

Lol dude can the holier than thou bullshit. Nobody cares about your opinion when you’re shitting on people spending money on trick parts 

Mate I'm not shitting on anybody because i buy them parts myself. But i don't buy them expecting them to make me faster, i buy them because they look sick and ill always support people within our industry. Love how you try to make me look bad yet make yourself out to be the jackass. 

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8/27/2023 10:45am
RMolly wrote:

Are you a pro rider looking for that 10th of a second? If the answer is no, stick to the stock clamps. Ktm ain't no mugs.

AJ565 wrote:
What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he...

What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he not buy them since he’s not a pro?

RMolly wrote:
A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about...

A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about imo.

I picked up about 5sec end of moto, since my hands don't go numb as it does with KTM OEM clamps. Huge difference even with Husby bars.

So big impacts can come from small details.

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8/27/2023 12:16pm
RMolly wrote:

Are you a pro rider looking for that 10th of a second? If the answer is no, stick to the stock clamps. Ktm ain't no mugs.

AJ565 wrote:
What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he...

What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he not buy them since he’s not a pro?

RMolly wrote:
A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about...

A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about imo.

Clamp companies wouldn’t be in business if only pros looking for the 10th of a second bought them. 
 

buy what makes you happy and more comfortable. Nothing wrong with putting money into the industry 

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8/27/2023 12:52pm

Actually I am simply looking to make the bike fit me better due to my height….Period.  I simply asked a question and to have someone open their mouth in complete ignorance as to why one would inquire…says a lot about that person.  I simply don’t care how good of a rider you may or may not be, it’s basically ignorant.  Nobody here is suggesting clamps are some mystical part that is going to improve your speed in most cases, but I am 55 and been around the game for 40yrs.  I think some keyboard warriors should simple stay off the forums as they have little to add in most cases.  I or anybody else simply do not have to justify our thoughts to some stranger who thinks he knows it all.

 

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Jesus christ does the truth hurt? And what i would advise for you is try lower the pegs raise your bars and set sag to suit your height and make the chassis fit you. 

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RMolly wrote:
A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about...

A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about imo.

zehn wrote:

Lol dude can the holier than thou bullshit. Nobody cares about your opinion when you’re shitting on people spending money on trick parts 

RMolly wrote:
Mate I'm not shitting on anybody because i buy them parts myself. But i don't buy them expecting them to make me faster, i buy them...

Mate I'm not shitting on anybody because i buy them parts myself. But i don't buy them expecting them to make me faster, i buy them because they look sick and ill always support people within our industry. Love how you try to make me look bad yet make yourself out to be the jackass. 

In trying to make me look like a jackass, you made yourself look even worse. The reason that someone buys trick parts is irrelevant, whether they believe it will make them faster or not, and whether it actually will or not

Again, stop with the holier than thou shit

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8/27/2023 2:13pm
RMolly wrote:

Are you a pro rider looking for that 10th of a second? If the answer is no, stick to the stock clamps. Ktm ain't no mugs.

AJ565 wrote:
What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he...

What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he not buy them since he’s not a pro?

RMolly wrote:
A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about...

A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about imo.

Do you even understand how comfort and bike setup play into riding? Dude didn’t come here asking if the clamps changed flex characteristics of the bike or any other crazy questions. He just wanted to be able to move his bars back to get the rider cockpit fit better to him so he’s comfortable. 

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8/27/2023 2:30pm
AJ565 wrote:
What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he...

What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he not buy them since he’s not a pro?

RMolly wrote:
A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about...

A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about imo.

AJ565 wrote:
Do you even understand how comfort and bike setup play into riding? Dude didn’t come here asking if the clamps changed flex characteristics of the bike...

Do you even understand how comfort and bike setup play into riding? Dude didn’t come here asking if the clamps changed flex characteristics of the bike or any other crazy questions. He just wanted to be able to move his bars back to get the rider cockpit fit better to him so he’s comfortable. 

Fully understand comfort and setting the bike to suit you. But thinking triple clamps alone will achieve that is silly. I bet most disagreeing with me here couldn't max out a 450 so why worry? 

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8/27/2023 4:18pm
AJ565 wrote:
What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he...

What if he’s a C rider that picks up a full second because he’s more comfortable on the bike as it’s setup for him, should he not buy them since he’s not a pro?

RMolly wrote:
A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about...

A C rider isn't gonna pick up 1 second from fancy triple clamps. Forks and shock set up is all anyone outside pro should worry about imo.

AJ565 wrote:
Do you even understand how comfort and bike setup play into riding? Dude didn’t come here asking if the clamps changed flex characteristics of the bike...

Do you even understand how comfort and bike setup play into riding? Dude didn’t come here asking if the clamps changed flex characteristics of the bike or any other crazy questions. He just wanted to be able to move his bars back to get the rider cockpit fit better to him so he’s comfortable. 

Exactly!  I’m freakin 5’4”!  I am same height as Alex Martin!  I have already acquired a lower seat, changed bars to a more appropriate bend, and getting ready to try so slightly TALLER footpegs!  The inquiry was regarding the position of the bar mounts and how much closer or different it may be over stock!  Some guys just simply know how to piss off people and ruffle feathers.  Anyway, it is what it is,

PaulP

 

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8/27/2023 4:33pm

The little plastics bushings on the handlebar clamps are a gimmick. How do they reduce vibration or flex? By letting your handlebars go loose? Give me a break  

8/27/2023 4:45pm
spimx wrote:
The little plastics bushings on the handlebar clamps are a gimmick. How do they reduce vibration or flex? By letting your handlebars go loose? Give me...

The little plastics bushings on the handlebar clamps are a gimmick. How do they reduce vibration or flex? By letting your handlebars go loose? Give me a break  

If they are like the option KTM Mounts they actually use a flexible rubber type material.  It does make a difference as I had the KTM version on an older bike.  

8/29/2023 5:43pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2023 5:43pm
Luxon MX wrote:
Clearly I'm biased... Xtrig makes good parts of high quality, but they're heavy. If weight is an issue, you'll be about a full pound lighter with...
Clearly I'm biased...

Xtrig makes good parts of high quality, but they're heavy. If weight is an issue, you'll be about a full pound lighter with our clamps.

The general consensus from those who try both is that they like ours better. For example, the Club MX team has been on Xtrig for some time, but they're switching to our clamps for 2022.

We just got done testing with MXA yesterday on both KTM and GasGas bikes. Three test riders went back to back to back with our clamps, stock clamps, and another aftermarket clamp (not Xtrig, though), on both bikes, and ours were the clear winner. You'll have to wait a while until the writeup comes out, though, but I think they'll be releasing a preview video on their social media this week.

If you have any questions, feel free to shoot me an email!

Iv been hearing Luxon is the brand to go with. I am currently running Ride Engineering and am not a fan. Especially with the mounting options and one piece bar mount with 8 bolts. its overkill kind of. lol 

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I was originally hesitant to invest in aftermarket triple clamps but after putting Luxon Gen2 clamps on my 150, I added them to my 300 also. I definitely think the quality is excellent and I can feel better steering precision and an improvement in the ride of the front end. Luxon makes a great triple clamps and I applaud them for taking the time and making the effort to produce such a well thought out component. Now I want them on all my bikes!

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Luxon has new clamps coming out that use Xtrig bar mounts. That gives you more mounting options to move forward or back. Luxon is also working on bar mounts with isolators (sort of like PHDS but different) that will fit the new clamps. Keefer is saying Xtrig has the stiffest/harshest clamps so if you are looking for comfort you might want to look at a different clamp. KTM also sells a split clamp with multiple mounting points. Again you lose the rubber isolated mounting unless you buy the PHDS or similar mounts.

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10/5/2023 5:32am

Luxon is the way to go. Even if they weren't the best option (which in my worthless opinion and luckily other people's informed opinions say they are the best option) you're supporting a stand up dude and great company with an impressive engineering background 👍

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I haven’t installed the ktm split clamps on my 23 350 just yet, but I was curious what improvements you guys noticed? Worth the money?

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10/5/2023 9:02am
Luxon MX wrote:
Clearly I'm biased... Xtrig makes good parts of high quality, but they're heavy. If weight is an issue, you'll be about a full pound lighter with...
Clearly I'm biased...

Xtrig makes good parts of high quality, but they're heavy. If weight is an issue, you'll be about a full pound lighter with our clamps.

The general consensus from those who try both is that they like ours better. For example, the Club MX team has been on Xtrig for some time, but they're switching to our clamps for 2022.

We just got done testing with MXA yesterday on both KTM and GasGas bikes. Three test riders went back to back to back with our clamps, stock clamps, and another aftermarket clamp (not Xtrig, though), on both bikes, and ours were the clear winner. You'll have to wait a while until the writeup comes out, though, but I think they'll be releasing a preview video on their social media this week.

If you have any questions, feel free to shoot me an email!
Iv been hearing Luxon is the brand to go with. I am currently running Ride Engineering and am not a fan. Especially with the mounting options...

Iv been hearing Luxon is the brand to go with. I am currently running Ride Engineering and am not a fan. Especially with the mounting options and one piece bar mount with 8 bolts. its overkill kind of. lol 

Ride “Engineering”

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Any difference in offset with the clamps from stock vs Luxon? Does Luxon offer that? I haven’t read any of the bike builds or have seen anyone mention changing the fork offset. It made a world of difference on a 450 Honda for cornering and straight line off-road on a Kawasaki. Just curious if anyone has messed with that on a 350
 

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You gotta go Luxon .

As far as clamps go saying “ Luxon or ‘ inserts any brand here’ “  is like saying “ Jett’s factory Honda or a 1976 barn find seized bultaco pursang with most of the parts missing”.

 

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11/26/2023 1:23pm

since this is on the forum as we approach 2024 supercross let's just cut to it. what are these clamps going to do once they're on the bike that the OEM clams won't. oysters.

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fcr wrote:
Any difference in offset with the clamps from stock vs Luxon? Does Luxon offer that? I haven’t read any of the bike builds or have seen...

Any difference in offset with the clamps from stock vs Luxon? Does Luxon offer that? I haven’t read any of the bike builds or have seen anyone mention changing the fork offset. It made a world of difference on a 450 Honda for cornering and straight line off-road on a Kawasaki. Just curious if anyone has messed with that on a 350
 

We've offered a variety of offsets depending on the bike fitment. For example, we offered both 22 and 24 offset for Honda with our Gen2 clamps. And 21.5 and 23 for Kawasaki.

Our new Gen3 Pro clamps are adjustable in offset, 21, 22, 23, and 24 mm for Yamaha, KTM/Husky/GasGas and we will have the same available for Honda and Kawasaki soon. 

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11/29/2023 11:18am
Luxon MX wrote:
We've offered a variety of offsets depending on the bike fitment. For example, we offered both 22 and 24 offset for Honda with our Gen2 clamps...

We've offered a variety of offsets depending on the bike fitment. For example, we offered both 22 and 24 offset for Honda with our Gen2 clamps. And 21.5 and 23 for Kawasaki.

Our new Gen3 Pro clamps are adjustable in offset, 21, 22, 23, and 24 mm for Yamaha, KTM/Husky/GasGas and we will have the same available for Honda and Kawasaki soon. 

             This dude comes on here and helps sort folks problems, whether they are his customer, or BillyBob’s customer. If that was the only reason to support him, that would be just fine, but he produces an A-1 product and stands behind it in every way. Support those who support the sport !  And No, I am not a Luxon family member. 

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Luxon

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Xtrig 

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11/30/2023 5:00pm Edited Date/Time 11/30/2023 5:02pm
fcr wrote:
Any difference in offset with the clamps from stock vs Luxon? Does Luxon offer that? I haven’t read any of the bike builds or have seen...

Any difference in offset with the clamps from stock vs Luxon? Does Luxon offer that? I haven’t read any of the bike builds or have seen anyone mention changing the fork offset. It made a world of difference on a 450 Honda for cornering and straight line off-road on a Kawasaki. Just curious if anyone has messed with that on a 350
 

Luxon MX wrote:
We've offered a variety of offsets depending on the bike fitment. For example, we offered both 22 and 24 offset for Honda with our Gen2 clamps...

We've offered a variety of offsets depending on the bike fitment. For example, we offered both 22 and 24 offset for Honda with our Gen2 clamps. And 21.5 and 23 for Kawasaki.

Our new Gen3 Pro clamps are adjustable in offset, 21, 22, 23, and 24 mm for Yamaha, KTM/Husky/GasGas and we will have the same available for Honda and Kawasaki soon. 

Much appreciate the input. I have your one piece bar mount on my 22.5 Husky. Very nice piece of machining 

im considering going to a 350 KTM and wondered about offsets, again thanks for the input

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fcr wrote:
Much appreciate the input. I have your one piece bar mount on my 22.5 Husky. Very nice piece of machining  im considering going to a 350...

Much appreciate the input. I have your one piece bar mount on my 22.5 Husky. Very nice piece of machining 

im considering going to a 350 KTM and wondered about offsets, again thanks for the input

No problem, shoot me an email or give me a ring if you have any questions!

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Luxon, xtrig oldddddd design. Probably make a rigid bike feel worse 

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