Dylan Ferrandis Riding a Phoenix Honda

11/3/2023 7:31am
DUCati227 wrote:

Man that number 14 just looks right on a Honda.

Cole Seely will be pissed!

Sorry to Seely but #14 will always be K-Dub. Seely just borrowed it. Just like Roncada was #21 on a Kawi, Anderson is just borrowing it. Could almost say the same about #3 and Brown/Tomac, But Tomac made that #3 a true Legend.

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11/3/2023 7:41am
Jack_4196 wrote:

Would this be a SX only deal as PHX doesn’t do outdoors? Be a shame to not see Dylan give mx another shot

ML512 wrote:

That's not what is being discussed.

So the question is how long did ML512 know about this test ride before he flew to NC to shoot some video ? 

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11/3/2023 7:44am
Hes going to have a great time complaining about the bike during the season and fighting for mayyyybe 5th place...but probably worse. As we speak hes...

Hes going to have a great time complaining about the bike during the season and fighting for mayyyybe 5th place...but probably worse. As we speak hes probably praying for bike problems for the real title contenders. I bet Jett Chase Eli and Kenny all fell asleep watching that promo.

exactly what the armchair experts predicted about KR

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11/3/2023 7:50am
Rosso391 wrote:
Sorry to Seely but #14 will always be K-Dub. Seely just borrowed it. Just like Roncada was #21 on a Kawi, Anderson is just borrowing it...

Sorry to Seely but #14 will always be K-Dub. Seely just borrowed it. Just like Roncada was #21 on a Kawi, Anderson is just borrowing it. Could almost say the same about #3 and Brown/Tomac, But Tomac made that #3 a true Legend.

It's just a number, but 2 will always be McGrath. 

And, his comment about Seely was in reference to him whining about Ferrandis not asking him for the number. He released it to the AMA after he retired under the impression that it was going to go to Justin Cooper who had asked him for it. 

The AMA asked Dylan if he wanted to take the 14 as his career number since he had first pick and it was the lowest two digit number available at the time, so he said yes. (13 was available, but no one wants to run it.)

It didn't go over well with Seely. There was a thread about it. 

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11/3/2023 8:01am
zehn wrote:

Looked good but definitely could tell he has very little time on it. The speed and comfort will come. Really happy he nailed down a ride!

ML512 wrote:

He literally rode about three laps before I started filming ha.

Was this at 421MX?

 

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11/3/2023 8:04am

That Phoenix Honda may be the best looking bike out there. 

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11/3/2023 9:03am

It’s amazing that you don’t need to be on factory teams to win these days. DF will prove this just like Kenny. 

Seems like the production rule is working. Teams have the know how to build bike to factory level.

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11/3/2023 9:08am

Interesting to see how he stacks up again Hunter. 

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11/3/2023 9:13am
zehn wrote:

Looked good but definitely could tell he has very little time on it. The speed and comfort will come. Really happy he nailed down a ride!

ML512 wrote:

He literally rode about three laps before I started filming ha.

Important tidbit here...  It was clear he wasn't feeling it yet.

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11/3/2023 9:22am
Rosso391 wrote:
Sorry to Seely but #14 will always be K-Dub. Seely just borrowed it. Just like Roncada was #21 on a Kawi, Anderson is just borrowing it...

Sorry to Seely but #14 will always be K-Dub. Seely just borrowed it. Just like Roncada was #21 on a Kawi, Anderson is just borrowing it. Could almost say the same about #3 and Brown/Tomac, But Tomac made that #3 a true Legend.

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It's just a number, but 2 will always be McGrath.  And, his comment about Seely was in reference to him whining about Ferrandis not asking him...

It's just a number, but 2 will always be McGrath. 

And, his comment about Seely was in reference to him whining about Ferrandis not asking him for the number. He released it to the AMA after he retired under the impression that it was going to go to Justin Cooper who had asked him for it. 

The AMA asked Dylan if he wanted to take the 14 as his career number since he had first pick and it was the lowest two digit number available at the time, so he said yes. (13 was available, but no one wants to run it.)

It didn't go over well with Seely. There was a thread about it. 

Yes, #2 will always be McGrath, but so is #1 haha.

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11/3/2023 9:35am
dr00andrew wrote:
Im not going to state the source I heard this rumor from, but is it actually true that Roczen had input into Ferrandis not coming on...

Im not going to state the source I heard this rumor from, but is it actually true that Roczen had input into Ferrandis not coming on board with Suzuki?  I know Roczen asks alot no matter what bike he's on but do you think its true he would have asked they dont hire him?  

**edit** I dont want to turn the thread into this topic but was just curious if anyone else has heard something like that.  Im happy to see him return to racing though.  I remember he actually joked earlier this season he may just retire since he doesn't have a ride

That rumor definitely has some teeth. 😉

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11/3/2023 9:54am

For an eventual help of HRC, I wonder if Dylan is a threat for Jett, how they would react. A tad paradoxical situation.

Anyway, I really think that with a very close collaboration between Factory Connection and Ferrandis, there will be no need of HRC. Personnally I think what happened to Roczen last year is really revealing. (and btw there is some similarities to what happened at Dylan in 2023)

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11/3/2023 10:21am

Jazzed to see this.    I hope he kicks ass this year. 

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11/3/2023 10:45am
zehn wrote:

Looked good but definitely could tell he has very little time on it. The speed and comfort will come. Really happy he nailed down a ride!

ML512 wrote:

He literally rode about three laps before I started filming ha.

Press516 wrote:

Important tidbit here...  It was clear he wasn't feeling it yet.

He was in love with the bike.

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11/3/2023 11:17am
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It's just a number, but 2 will always be McGrath.  And, his comment about Seely was in reference to him whining about Ferrandis not asking him...

It's just a number, but 2 will always be McGrath. 

And, his comment about Seely was in reference to him whining about Ferrandis not asking him for the number. He released it to the AMA after he retired under the impression that it was going to go to Justin Cooper who had asked him for it. 

The AMA asked Dylan if he wanted to take the 14 as his career number since he had first pick and it was the lowest two digit number available at the time, so he said yes. (13 was available, but no one wants to run it.)

It didn't go over well with Seely. There was a thread about it. 

Seely seems a real princess!! DF will do 14 was more justice!!

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11/3/2023 11:20am
ML512 wrote:

He literally rode about three laps before I started filming ha.

Press516 wrote:

Important tidbit here...  It was clear he wasn't feeling it yet.

ML512 wrote:

He was in love with the bike.

I hope he really likes it, and hauls ass on it! It was just clear in the video. He wasn’t riding it very aggressively.

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11/3/2023 11:30am
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It's just a number, but 2 will always be McGrath.  And, his comment about Seely was in reference to him whining about Ferrandis not asking him...

It's just a number, but 2 will always be McGrath. 

And, his comment about Seely was in reference to him whining about Ferrandis not asking him for the number. He released it to the AMA after he retired under the impression that it was going to go to Justin Cooper who had asked him for it. 

The AMA asked Dylan if he wanted to take the 14 as his career number since he had first pick and it was the lowest two digit number available at the time, so he said yes. (13 was available, but no one wants to run it.)

It didn't go over well with Seely. There was a thread about it. 

Seely seems a real princess!! DF will do 14 was more justice!!

He already did the number more justice. 

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11/3/2023 11:35am
zehn wrote:

Looked good but definitely could tell he has very little time on it. The speed and comfort will come. Really happy he nailed down a ride!

ML512 wrote:

He literally rode about three laps before I started filming ha.

Press516 wrote:

Important tidbit here...  It was clear he wasn't feeling it yet.

That's not what I got, he seemed like he really like it a lot. My comment was just that he looked like he was stlil sussing out the bike, how it handled, how it turned, etc. which was supported by ML's comment

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11/3/2023 11:47am

Now just for the reunion of DF & DV 👍

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11/3/2023 11:54am
shuggs wrote:

Now just for the reunion of DF & DV 👍

Dont know how 2 french people can make out... but they really made good results together. I think DF can get some good results alone but with DV he would be good all season. 

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11/3/2023 12:25pm
soyMotero wrote:

Is he switching from Thor? He didn't quote them on the IG post

I noticed the same thing... Would be cool to see DF with another MX brand than Thor...

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11/3/2023 12:35pm
soyMotero wrote:

Is he switching from Thor? He didn't quote them on the IG post

I noticed the same thing... Would be cool to see DF with another MX brand than Thor...

The Phoenix team run's Moose. Would be cool to see them throw some money to have a different gear brand in the top 5. Maybe FXR as well? 

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11/3/2023 12:49pm
ML512 wrote:

He literally rode about three laps before I started filming ha.

Press516 wrote:

Important tidbit here...  It was clear he wasn't feeling it yet.

zehn wrote:
That's not what I got, he seemed like he really like it a lot. My comment was just that he looked like he was stlil sussing...

That's not what I got, he seemed like he really like it a lot. My comment was just that he looked like he was stlil sussing out the bike, how it handled, how it turned, etc. which was supported by ML's comment

Saying the same thing...  He wasn't going hard at all.  I never said he didn't like it.  I'm agreeing that ML's comment that he just got on it makes sense.  If anyone thought he was running Jett's speed in that vid, they need glasses.  He wasn't pushing it at all.

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11/3/2023 1:09pm
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The Phoenix team run's Moose. Would be cool to see them throw some money to have a different gear brand in the top 5. Maybe FXR...

The Phoenix team run's Moose. Would be cool to see them throw some money to have a different gear brand in the top 5. Maybe FXR as well? 

I think DF will have his own gear deal (not team gear deal).

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11/3/2023 1:19pm

Some of y’all’s hate of DF is crazy. Dude shows more grit than most Americans and y’all don’t like him because he is French? 

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11/3/2023 1:31pm Edited Date/Time 11/3/2023 1:42pm

I think the Honda will fit him a little better. It looks smaller and more compact. 
 

It helps that DF was getting better as the ‘23 season wore on. His riding looked progressively smoother and more fluid. He’ll get better as he goes along (n SX and MX).

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11/3/2023 1:46pm
shuggs wrote:

Now just for the reunion of DF & DV 👍

I would love a lot, but it seems very unlikely, all the more if Dylan doesn't move back to California, in Riverside area.

The rumor that he moved to Clermont Fl, is it serious ?

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Weege from Racerhead this week: 

I discovered quite a bit about this Ferrandis situation. Yes, this is a Phoenix Honda deal, and it’s not, for example, Honda HRC building Dylan a works bike and rolling it under the Phoenix tent. But, it appears the team’s technical efforts have been bolstered by Rick “Ziggy” Zielfelder from Factory Connection, the co-founder and co-owner of the old GEICO Honda team, as Davey mentioned. Ziggy wants back in the game, Dylan trusts Ziggy, and Ziggy and FC have some tricks up their sleeve. Maybe this team will have a little of the old Kevin Windham/Mike LaRocco 450 Honda vibe to it? Plus, Phoenix does have communication with the factory team, so between Honda’s guidance, the team’s own resources, plus Factory Connection, there seem to be no doubts they can build a bike that can win races with a rider like Ferrandis. What I like is that this isn’t Eller just opening the check book and giving Dylan an offer he can’t refuse. We’ve seen private teams try things like that and it rarely works. This is Dylan willing to forgo a big salary to get on a bike and team he likes and betting on himself to make money in bonuses, plus, remind the industry of his value going forward. Dylan thinks the Honda is the bike he needs, and he thinks Phoenix and Factory Connection can build it right, even if it’s not the full factory machine.

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11/3/2023 3:09pm

Hard to tell but looked like he was running the additional bracing on it that Jett was using in MX?

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