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I just bought my boy a PW 50 2 months ago. He got it October 4th on his 5th birthday. It had like 4 hours on it and looked new other than one small blemish. We have around 3 hours on it now. They aren't dead by any means.
That said the KTM and Husky look nice. Had they released images 2 months sooner I may have gone that route, but so far not regretting the PW purchase by any means. My son loves it.
This claims swappable power-tool style batteries. So it should be as quick or quicker than a 1 minute fuel fillup.
i think it was something about durability testing or something, not really sure but i have a new turbo coming in for my truck tomarrow around 9am should be a good time installing it..
Provided you purchased that extra battery.
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I took a long break from motocross, I figured the bikes would become cheaper. I am absolutely shocked how expensive dirt bikes are all across the board. It used to be a hobby for even low class if you could afford a used bike.
it started out as low class, i remember always seeing bikes sitting outside of a single wide trailer when i was a kid, now you see bikes posted in front of Lake Houses....
You can literally get full sized dirt bikes for under $1000 now (and I've seen plenty of them outside of single wides, too). They are as crappy as you would expect, but cheaper than ever. At the high end, bikes are much nicer than ever, and also priced accordingly.
Same experience here. Went to get my kid a new TTR50 last year. Local dealer had 2022s for $1749 and 2023s for $1799, however OTD price was $2950 and $3000?? Drove 2hrs and got a new 2023 for $2300 OTD. $1800 bike + mandatory $350(or $375) freight from Yamaha is $2150, so $2300 is more than fair. I’ll now drive 2hrs out of state to that dealership for the next new bike. Local dealer can rot, damn near doubling MSRP on a fiddy.
I would never touch one of those Amazon dirt bikes! I’m talking about the badass 125cc - 250cc from Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawi. yes they are quality and I understand inflation but damn they are expensive. pretty much everything that involves hobby’s outdoors has gone up .
I got a KX60 to learn. Back then it seemed there really wasn’t much in between the pw50 and a 60cc. I was too big for a PW50 . But my lord this 60cc hauled ass and was so much fun! 6 gear pinned ! Definitely had my fair share of crashes and wipeouts learning to ride
I didn’t say no maintenance. But there are hardly any maintenance comparing the two. Especially in mini bike world. If you’ve owned a 50cc race bike you will understand.
I also have a Stacyc, a KTM SX-E5, sold our OSET cause we outgrew it. Had a ktm 50 and that was a nightmare. Have a ktm 65 right now and it’s great. But to say it requires the same maintenance as the SX-E5 isn’t even remotely close lol. The 65 needs an oil change and filter cleaning every time alone, if not more every time you ride. I’m also mixing gas and storing that as well.
this isn’t an argument, it’s just my experience and others feedback I know who actually own both simultaneously.
I also should add, if you want to train your kid to be able to do technical riding (logs/steep hills/rocks) there literally isn’t a better choice then the KTM SX-E5. When the kid inevitably tips over or falls down a steep hill and the bike is upside down awhile, or on its side on a steep hill it won’t matter. You pick it up and put the dongle back on and go. No flooded bike, no kicking it a million times, no dad having to find somewhere to park his bike and hike to get the bike running again. Oh and no hot pipe to burn the kid if they get stuck under it.
Jap zap training example on a log bigger then the tires with a 7yo.
Yeah my first bike was a PW50 (see photo on previous page) but our son's first bike will definitely be electric. Probably the SX-E2. He's only two right now so we've got a couple more years. The price fair as well.
Yeah I guess parts of the country are different. I got to live in several states growing up. I lived in the Midwest and NC and would see random dealerships, but when I moved to Oklahoma there was fancy new dealerships all over the place, but it was the few hole in the wall bike shops with them on display that spiked my interest. I talked my dad into getting one and traded in my hockey equipment and got that KX60 with a rebuilt engine for like $800 bucks.
I have been a fulltime pro mx coach for 35yrs now, foot work is SO important to building a professional rider and it won’t matter on e bikes, I reckon I would have sent Hunter and Jet to a bmx coach with there e-bikes between my visits if future mx bikes weren’t going to have feet controls. It ruins at least 90%of riders without them even knowing and is the base of my coaching, lucky I’m getting old and can retire soon.
Please look a few posts back at my photo. That requires a ton of footwork, body positioning and throttle/brake control to pull off.
not sure who you are coaching, but you must have never been on an e-mx bike.
What kind of special footwork do you teach on a pw50 ttjat you can't on this SX E2?
I coach Hunter and Jet for 7yrs and I’m comparing foot controls on motors to no foot controls on electric and if they had there toes pointing out for x like the kid in your photo then that would be the first thing fixed
I would agree that You will still want/need to move your feet around even if you do not have to shift or brake with Your feet. Corners, jumping, weighting and unweighting the pegs etc. will still be things on electric. Maybe I'm just not observant enough , and too slow to see what he is talking about.
I have big feet,sz16. And I know that if I did not have to shift or brake with my feet I would still move my feet. Maybe even more. I wouldn't've have to worry about having my foot ready to shift so I might by more on my toes in an area that I would normally have to be riding closer to my arches so I could shift. I was always a better rider on MTB's and even with my feet clipped in, I was still doing things with my feet . Riding keeps evolving, but there will always be technic needed to go faster than the other guy.
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Yeh mate for sure but it’s what your knee does when working controls, notice I have Jet and hunters knees central when Ching up or down, they can even move the knees backwards while waiting the peg and using controls
So Your technic makes that much of a difference? In SX there is not a lot of shifting on a 450. From what I have heard, Jett and Hunter have been training from the start to develop their style for the 450 class. If its all about shifting and positioning while shifting. Why is Jett such a better 450 rider than 250 rider where he would have to shift more often? I would think the advantage would have been greater on the bike that needed to be shifted more.
Yeh I got Dazza to watch Chad with me for sx, so moving to back brack and arches was I the air over last obstacle and changing from aches to toes for drive was while suspension compresses while bum lands, so much more but hope this helps
That’s awesome, if true. Also agree on the angle of his feet, one of the many reasons he is practicing.
also, I might have not been clear. But his electric bike has foot brake just like his 65 has. Only difference is no clutch.
Yeh mate I was more about future with hand controls
What class are these things going to be able to race in? Has anyone’s local organizations stated anything yet?
can’t imagine you stick them with the bigger 50 e bikes. Not sure they’ll run them in shaft (that would be ideal though imo)
*Smell the oil injection
All I’m gathering here is some of you are shitty mechanics…lol
When will these be available?
My little guy’s E2 came in on Friday. He’s 4, no training wheels on his bike and started on a Stacyc last summer. For the difference in price I’ll take the E2 all day long at this point. It uses the same Husqvarna batteries that the leaf blower we have at work does. Swaps take around 30 seconds. He’s on mode 2 now and used 2 of 4 bars on the battery riding for around an hour. The seat height is adjustable too, which is a great feature for making the bike last longer. Love that the motor is in the back wheel, no worries about getting tangled in the chain if he falls. The PW has a good heat shield, but not having any type of hot exhaust pipe or motor to get burnt on is definitely a positive too. It’s also noticeably lighter and narrower in the seat than the PW.
One thing I noticed immediately is the smooth take off, the Stacyc was very jerky when the throttle was first applied, this one has none of that.
So far, extremely impressed with the bike. Even more impressed with my little guy picking it up so quickly. Now I need to invest in some more gear, thought I’d get away with his bicycle pads for a while, but not at the rate he’s picking up speed.
Reading through some of these comments are crazy… people complaining about maintenance on the PW like it’s built 250f.
It does get frustrating cripping carbs off and cleaning them any time a spec of dirt finds its way into the pilot jet, but its not rocket science.
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