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Some people just need a scapegoat for everything. Blaming the USA and SMX for WSX failing in many fronts is laughable.
They aren't new to this? Where else have you seen a playoff system combining motocross and supercross? I'll wait for your answer..
Speaking out of both sides of your mouth, you want to talk smack and say it's going to be great. Pick a lane.
No you can’t compare…One has failed the other has not, and it has failed exactly as I said it would every step of the way. Like I have said a million time before WSX was wrong in their aggressive approach, the timing of their series set up to compete against an existing series, outlandish promises to be biggest and the best SX series in the world…they should have kept their mouths shut under promise and over deliver a series in the fall during the off season of any other series so they could draw some of the best riders and deliver it to fans that typically don’t get to see SX live….I take no delight in its failure and its failure is because of the very people you have defended during the entire process and the people I was highly critical of with their decisions that they made every step of the way…end of the day they couldn’t live up to the hype machine they created….only if they would have decided to be a fall series and grow from the there…pretty sure I said that many many times…
As far as what I said about not being negative was about the animated tracks that were getting blasted in another thread…but hey don’t let the facts get in the way of your accusations…and lastly please let me know when the announcement of the cancelation of the French round will happen I’m still waiting on that…
The series does not make sense to me, big purse but only one big name SX rider? I don’t see how the series could survive using the current rider line up. World SX series without Tomac, Sexton, Lawrence, Webb, Anderson, Barcia, Plessenger, Cianciarulo, Stewart, Craig?
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So you’re saying MX Sports and Feld are new to organising and promoting a series??? Because all I was trying to say is that they aren’t.
Do you seriously think no one can possibly support both SMX and WSX???
Why does there need to be sides? Who’s talking smack here?
And doesn’t it still cost $50 for the series even with the 24 hour delay? A series that has held one round so far? Yikes.
Not knee jerk, for years the AMA / mx sports have been exploiting / fucking the riders, notably the privateers, paying penny's at the outdoors nationals.
All of a sudden after wsx was announced, they announce smx, and somehow find all this money, why couldn't the get off their fat wallets and find the money in previous years?
Read your own posts. You're saying SMX is "lacking in organization" and has "very poor planning".
I'm not saying Feld amd MXSports are new to promoting and organizing a series, I'm saying they are new to promoting a motocross and supercross playoff system. It has never been done before, so yeah, it's new. Not sure how that's hard to understand.
You can support both, but don't think your thinly veiled shade (for no reason in this thread) doesn't make you sound like a sour sore loser.
Regarding the rumors, we will have more to say soon.....so basically they said nothing.
The money came from their contract with NBC by working together, and it was NBC's idea for the playoff...just sit back and enjoy the races and stop complaining...
Really fun when it's less than 30 days left for the second round that is apparently cancelled and 40 days until the third round which still doesn't have any ticket sale available and people have to plan their trips/flights/vacations. I was excited when they announced international supercross for people like us but now I'm just getting mad, that lack of communication is laughable. At least they can still post rider clips and pictures on their twitter lol
Feld succeeded in finishing their SX championship when COVID struck.
WSX can't even put theirs together in normal conditions.
Thinly veiled shade? 🤣 What? because I pointed out a few of SMX’s shortcomings?! Happy for you to point out if they’re incorrect. Still waiting on that.
Actually that’s what a forum’s about. I invite any one of you who disagree with my statements above to say why they’re wrong? Rather than just attacking me, bring on the genuine discussion and debate with some actual facts to support your opinion please.
I did....
Good grief, it is a new international business venture with financing and growing pains. Nothing new, they will probably figure it out. In the mean time why would you root against any entity that is bringing millions to a sport we belove. MX is full of self hate/ doubt. I would bet the house they eventually succeed, I am pulling for them.
Totally agree about this being what a forum's about, and I believe we are having a discussion in the same manner you have just said. I'm debating the point you made that SMX has had the same shortcomings, only worse.
We are both using facts, although you're using an opinion as your debate tactic. I'm happy to talk facts, like that SMX is the first ever attempt at a playoff system in MX/SX.
Feld and MXSports don't have the rider list posted, and they never said they would have a rider list posted this soon after Motocross ended. There's a 1 week break when they expected a 6 week break before MXoN moved and SMX moved dates. We know the top guys that aren't injured will be in it, so I don't understand why anyone's worried about the rider list.
I think we both agree that the racing/event next weekend will go great regardless.
Lol, a playoff system? It’s a 3 race series with different point structure for each race. It’s not rocket science, why is there so much confusion about this series that has been in the works for years? Why doesn’t a rider whose parents are involved in scoring races for the series in the dark for what’s going on? Why was the payee of the purse not explained up front. I try not to fall into the conspiracy rabbit hole, but some of you also need to remove your Feld/MXSports colored glasses and not gobble up everything they say without taking a minute to check if it passes the smell test
And some of you need to wait and see how it plays out before slamming it….you might be surprised how it all will workout this week…
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Of course we are going to be surprised, we still don’t know who’s all racing! Questioning isn’t slamming, hope it’s successful and the riders can make some cash and us fans get to watch more racing.
Not sure if its this thread or another but ML went through the list of riders that were and were not racing, the qualified riders had last week to let Feld/MXSports that they were racing they had until Friday to do that. I expect we will see a full list on Tuesday….and sometimes it is how you ask the question that determines if you are slamming it….now if there isn’t an official list by Wed then we can ask WTF….until then it’s premature.
"with hotly contested racing determining who will be crowned the 2023 FIM World Supercross Champions "
hotly contested between roczen and whom else?
and then there's the ridiculous "World Supercross Champions" part.
Has the required Pro license part been figured out yet?
Unless it has been released in the last 24-36 hours the schedule for moving into the pits and will call had not been announced yet or at least riders still did not know.
This series looks like they will have a round in France and maybe double header in Australia and call it a series. Like someone said about Roczen you are paying and a bunch of privateers is not going to get it.
"we will be sharing significant news soon "
In our digital century and with the next race at the end of this month, is almost two weeks really "soon"?
They're getting the "financials" in order...
I can’t say that I have been a real supporter of the WSX series, but I have to admit that I feel bad for the people who have tried to make it a success. I’m sure that there are several who have taken on this project with great intentions, and it does seem destined to fail at this point. I didn’t/don’t like how they were going to need to take top riders from the Nationals for their business model to really work, but it’s still sad to see it seem to be falling apart so easily.
Maybe ML can answer this, why didn't they just add the then current successful off season supercrosses together with some of the Aussie races to make a championship to begin with, hubris?
They tried to include the Paris SX.
From someone who was involved in both WSX and has been involved in Paris SX, they told me that WSX wanted a larger promotion fee from Paris SX then they were currently paying riders to be there. Basically, under the current Paris SX model, they put out X amount of start-up money to get top riders to the race. Every year they have a solid haul of top 450 talent and sell out or nearly sell out their venue. It works.
WSX wanted a larger promotion fee from this promoter then what he already spends. WSX would've brought a weaker field of talent and cost them more. Didn't make sense for them to get involved in WSX.
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