Statement Regarding Rumors and Current Condition of 2023 World Supercross Series

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Rosso391 wrote:
FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective) -Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment -Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite...

FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective)

-Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment

-Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite

-Call it the sole "World Supercross” championship because FIM says they are the only ones who can self-proclaim “World” status on championships

-Make a schedule that directly competes against the timelines of YOUR OWN MXGP Championship, AND the AMA Motocross Championship

-Hype the venues before you even have funding or infrastructure to run the events

-Claim highest purse payout in SX History, without having any top riders lined up for the series

-Make a Pilot Series of 5 Rounds to get the hype started for the next year’s official series

-Pay 2 top riders $250K each per race they attend

-Cancel rounds 3-5, after the first round is held, due to no funds, low attendance/viewings, and investors backing out

-Crown a “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” after only 2 races

-Paid out $750K for 2 top riders over 2 rounds:

                            -Roczen attended 2 rounds costing FIM/WSX $500k

                            -Tomac only attended the first round costing FIM/WSX $250K

-Claim it will be better in 2023

-Announce the series will be 6 rounds starting in July 2023

-Use the same business plan you used for the failed Pilot Series in ‘22

-Hype up the defending “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” will attend the series

-Cancel Round 2 before Round 1 even starts

-Run Round 1 with less fan attendance, less views, less top riders, and much less hype for the series than expected

-Put schedule on hold for further evaluation, but with the intent to still run races on existing dates

-Claim you’ve found more funding to hold races

-Hold a press release to tell fans they’ve had to cancel some rounds and replace them with different venues, but we won’t say what those are just yet

-Be very vague in the Press Release about what is actually happening

 

Did I miss anything?

Yes - Don't have a way for US viewers to watch the races live

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9/1/2023 10:54am
Rosso391 wrote:
FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective) -Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment -Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite...

FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective)

-Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment

-Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite

-Call it the sole "World Supercross” championship because FIM says they are the only ones who can self-proclaim “World” status on championships

-Make a schedule that directly competes against the timelines of YOUR OWN MXGP Championship, AND the AMA Motocross Championship

-Hype the venues before you even have funding or infrastructure to run the events

-Claim highest purse payout in SX History, without having any top riders lined up for the series

-Make a Pilot Series of 5 Rounds to get the hype started for the next year’s official series

-Pay 2 top riders $250K each per race they attend

-Cancel rounds 3-5, after the first round is held, due to no funds, low attendance/viewings, and investors backing out

-Crown a “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” after only 2 races

-Paid out $750K for 2 top riders over 2 rounds:

                            -Roczen attended 2 rounds costing FIM/WSX $500k

                            -Tomac only attended the first round costing FIM/WSX $250K

-Claim it will be better in 2023

-Announce the series will be 6 rounds starting in July 2023

-Use the same business plan you used for the failed Pilot Series in ‘22

-Hype up the defending “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” will attend the series

-Cancel Round 2 before Round 1 even starts

-Run Round 1 with less fan attendance, less views, less top riders, and much less hype for the series than expected

-Put schedule on hold for further evaluation, but with the intent to still run races on existing dates

-Claim you’ve found more funding to hold races

-Hold a press release to tell fans they’ve had to cancel some rounds and replace them with different venues, but we won’t say what those are just yet

-Be very vague in the Press Release about what is actually happening

 

Did I miss anything?

Yes, The last line..

Due to unforeseen circumstances, the World Supercross Series will be put on hold, Indefinitely!   

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9/1/2023 11:32am
Rosso391 wrote:
FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective) -Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment -Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite...

FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective)

-Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment

-Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite

-Call it the sole "World Supercross” championship because FIM says they are the only ones who can self-proclaim “World” status on championships

-Make a schedule that directly competes against the timelines of YOUR OWN MXGP Championship, AND the AMA Motocross Championship

-Hype the venues before you even have funding or infrastructure to run the events

-Claim highest purse payout in SX History, without having any top riders lined up for the series

-Make a Pilot Series of 5 Rounds to get the hype started for the next year’s official series

-Pay 2 top riders $250K each per race they attend

-Cancel rounds 3-5, after the first round is held, due to no funds, low attendance/viewings, and investors backing out

-Crown a “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” after only 2 races

-Paid out $750K for 2 top riders over 2 rounds:

                            -Roczen attended 2 rounds costing FIM/WSX $500k

                            -Tomac only attended the first round costing FIM/WSX $250K

-Claim it will be better in 2023

-Announce the series will be 6 rounds starting in July 2023

-Use the same business plan you used for the failed Pilot Series in ‘22

-Hype up the defending “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” will attend the series

-Cancel Round 2 before Round 1 even starts

-Run Round 1 with less fan attendance, less views, less top riders, and much less hype for the series than expected

-Put schedule on hold for further evaluation, but with the intent to still run races on existing dates

-Claim you’ve found more funding to hold races

-Hold a press release to tell fans they’ve had to cancel some rounds and replace them with different venues, but we won’t say what those are just yet

-Be very vague in the Press Release about what is actually happening

 

Did I miss anything?

yak651 wrote:

Yes - Don't have a way for US viewers to watch the races live

Probably by design..

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9/1/2023 11:34am

Are RMZ kickstartes in stock on the facility grounds?

Yes,.. Varner hand made them.. but you will need to send cash down payment to hold one..will also retro fit the Stark Vargs… as charging stations at MX tracks across the country are currently on back order…

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9/1/2023 12:10pm
Rosso391 wrote:
FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective) -Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment -Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite...

FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective)

-Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment

-Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite

-Call it the sole "World Supercross” championship because FIM says they are the only ones who can self-proclaim “World” status on championships

-Make a schedule that directly competes against the timelines of YOUR OWN MXGP Championship, AND the AMA Motocross Championship

-Hype the venues before you even have funding or infrastructure to run the events

-Claim highest purse payout in SX History, without having any top riders lined up for the series

-Make a Pilot Series of 5 Rounds to get the hype started for the next year’s official series

-Pay 2 top riders $250K each per race they attend

-Cancel rounds 3-5, after the first round is held, due to no funds, low attendance/viewings, and investors backing out

-Crown a “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” after only 2 races

-Paid out $750K for 2 top riders over 2 rounds:

                            -Roczen attended 2 rounds costing FIM/WSX $500k

                            -Tomac only attended the first round costing FIM/WSX $250K

-Claim it will be better in 2023

-Announce the series will be 6 rounds starting in July 2023

-Use the same business plan you used for the failed Pilot Series in ‘22

-Hype up the defending “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” will attend the series

-Cancel Round 2 before Round 1 even starts

-Run Round 1 with less fan attendance, less views, less top riders, and much less hype for the series than expected

-Put schedule on hold for further evaluation, but with the intent to still run races on existing dates

-Claim you’ve found more funding to hold races

-Hold a press release to tell fans they’ve had to cancel some rounds and replace them with different venues, but we won’t say what those are just yet

-Be very vague in the Press Release about what is actually happening

 

Did I miss anything?

Exactly right.....I just want to know where all the nut huggers are that were portraying this is as the best series ever, stating factory teams would leave the US series, it would shut down the outdoor series etc etc.

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9/1/2023 1:26pm Edited Date/Time 9/1/2023 1:31pm

With all good intention, different circumstance have lead to what appears to be a failure.

The biggest block was the knee jerk implementation of the SMX races.

Let's wait and see how long smx lasts and what the payout will be in the following years.

Personally I just want more outdoor nationals.

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9/1/2023 1:35pm

SMX was not a knee jerk but at this point if you believe that, you’re clearly not interested in facts 

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In regards to SMX. FIM forced their hand with better payouts, which at this point they're going to have to leave even if WSX completely fails in a few months. Then also pissed AMA off enough to make the "pLaYoFf" races, that I think are completely pointless, in September when WSX would have wanted their schedule. FIM basically shot themselves by accepting the split from AMA. And the AMA runs events better, in my opinion, anyways. FIM has far too big of a chip on their shoulders. No one there knows how to properly run an event or create a schedule that works. I'm truly surprised that MXGP has been around as long as it has, but I'm positive the people running MXGP are NOT the same people involved in WSX.

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9/1/2023 1:55pm
Rosso391 wrote:
FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective) -Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment -Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite...

FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective)

-Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment

-Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite

-Call it the sole "World Supercross” championship because FIM says they are the only ones who can self-proclaim “World” status on championships

-Make a schedule that directly competes against the timelines of YOUR OWN MXGP Championship, AND the AMA Motocross Championship

-Hype the venues before you even have funding or infrastructure to run the events

-Claim highest purse payout in SX History, without having any top riders lined up for the series

-Make a Pilot Series of 5 Rounds to get the hype started for the next year’s official series

-Pay 2 top riders $250K each per race they attend

-Cancel rounds 3-5, after the first round is held, due to no funds, low attendance/viewings, and investors backing out

-Crown a “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” after only 2 races

-Paid out $750K for 2 top riders over 2 rounds:

                            -Roczen attended 2 rounds costing FIM/WSX $500k

                            -Tomac only attended the first round costing FIM/WSX $250K

-Claim it will be better in 2023

-Announce the series will be 6 rounds starting in July 2023

-Use the same business plan you used for the failed Pilot Series in ‘22

-Hype up the defending “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” will attend the series

-Cancel Round 2 before Round 1 even starts

-Run Round 1 with less fan attendance, less views, less top riders, and much less hype for the series than expected

-Put schedule on hold for further evaluation, but with the intent to still run races on existing dates

-Claim you’ve found more funding to hold races

-Hold a press release to tell fans they’ve had to cancel some rounds and replace them with different venues, but we won’t say what those are just yet

-Be very vague in the Press Release about what is actually happening

 

Did I miss anything?

Exactly right.....I just want to know where all the nut huggers are that were portraying this is as the best series ever, stating factory teams would...

Exactly right.....I just want to know where all the nut huggers are that were portraying this is as the best series ever, stating factory teams would leave the US series, it would shut down the outdoor series etc etc.

His name is Chad and he likes the number two

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9/1/2023 2:03pm
Rosso391 wrote:
In regards to SMX. FIM forced their hand with better payouts, which at this point they're going to have to leave even if WSX completely fails...

In regards to SMX. FIM forced their hand with better payouts, which at this point they're going to have to leave even if WSX completely fails in a few months. Then also pissed AMA off enough to make the "pLaYoFf" races, that I think are completely pointless, in September when WSX would have wanted their schedule. FIM basically shot themselves by accepting the split from AMA. And the AMA runs events better, in my opinion, anyways. FIM has far too big of a chip on their shoulders. No one there knows how to properly run an event or create a schedule that works. I'm truly surprised that MXGP has been around as long as it has, but I'm positive the people running MXGP are NOT the same people involved in WSX.

If WSX folds and screws over the teams, do the teams have any recourse with the FIM? The are "sanctioning" this series does thar put any responsibility for the series happening on them?

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9/1/2023 2:14pm
Rosso391 wrote:
FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective) -Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment -Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite...

FIM/WSX FAILING BUSINESS MODEL (former racer perspective)

-Split from AMA/Feld Entertainment

-Create a directly competing supercross series to rival the AMA Supercross series out of spite

-Call it the sole "World Supercross” championship because FIM says they are the only ones who can self-proclaim “World” status on championships

-Make a schedule that directly competes against the timelines of YOUR OWN MXGP Championship, AND the AMA Motocross Championship

-Hype the venues before you even have funding or infrastructure to run the events

-Claim highest purse payout in SX History, without having any top riders lined up for the series

-Make a Pilot Series of 5 Rounds to get the hype started for the next year’s official series

-Pay 2 top riders $250K each per race they attend

-Cancel rounds 3-5, after the first round is held, due to no funds, low attendance/viewings, and investors backing out

-Crown a “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” after only 2 races

-Paid out $750K for 2 top riders over 2 rounds:

                            -Roczen attended 2 rounds costing FIM/WSX $500k

                            -Tomac only attended the first round costing FIM/WSX $250K

-Claim it will be better in 2023

-Announce the series will be 6 rounds starting in July 2023

-Use the same business plan you used for the failed Pilot Series in ‘22

-Hype up the defending “wOrLd cHaMpIoN” will attend the series

-Cancel Round 2 before Round 1 even starts

-Run Round 1 with less fan attendance, less views, less top riders, and much less hype for the series than expected

-Put schedule on hold for further evaluation, but with the intent to still run races on existing dates

-Claim you’ve found more funding to hold races

-Hold a press release to tell fans they’ve had to cancel some rounds and replace them with different venues, but we won’t say what those are just yet

-Be very vague in the Press Release about what is actually happening

 

Did I miss anything?

On top of that, don't forget that initially, 2022 was supposed to have 5 races and 2023, 11.

This is the previsional schedule from may 22.

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ML512 wrote:

Tried to get some updates this morning, but two of the teams I spoke to didn't know anything new, yet.

scott_nz wrote:

Singapore is 4 weeks away ?  Have they booked the teams booked airfares for this round ? 

As far as I’m aware, Singapore is off and none of the teams I spokes to seemed to be preparing for it.

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yak651 wrote:

WSX should really consider changing their model so they schedule their races totally in the US off season

Pop Shmoke wrote:
Yup… literally everyone could see this. If they had their races at a time when nobody else was racing then they’re going to get everybody watching...

Yup… literally everyone could see this. If they had their races at a time when nobody else was racing then they’re going to get everybody watching because it’s the only racing on. Trying to compete when 2 other series are racing at the same time makes no sense, if somebody tried to watch the entire ama races, mxgp, and then wsx it would take the entire weekend to watch, so ppl had to choose and they’re going to choose the one they already watch. 
 

On top of that when they had the off season rounds tons of top guys showed up.  You need big names to get ppl interested. Racing in the off season solves the 2 biggest problems, not competing against other races, and having top talent racing. If these races were the end of October to the end of December you’d have no other racing to watch but this, and it would have the big name guys so everybody would watch. 

Avoiding confrontation with the other series is not how "a collective of world class masterminds" build " the preeminent and first truly global supercross championship, featuring the sport's elite riders to stadiums around the world".

Wink

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Exactly right.....I just want to know where all the nut huggers are that were portraying this is as the best series ever, stating factory teams would...

Exactly right.....I just want to know where all the nut huggers are that were portraying this is as the best series ever, stating factory teams would leave the US series, it would shut down the outdoor series etc etc.

You know "everybody wants to race WSX".

Grinning

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9/1/2023 3:25pm Edited Date/Time 9/1/2023 3:25pm
ML512 wrote:

Tried to get some updates this morning, but two of the teams I spoke to didn't know anything new, yet.

scott_nz wrote:

Singapore is 4 weeks away ?  Have they booked the teams booked airfares for this round ? 

ML512 wrote:

As far as I’m aware, Singapore is off and none of the teams I spokes to seemed to be preparing for it.

Are they preparing for any races?

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Say wsx does claim they have the funding. How many teams are actually going to sign up for 2024 after this fucking disaster? Right now you have alot of guys making zero dollars and fucked themselves from making money at other events. 

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9/1/2023 4:13pm Edited Date/Time 9/1/2023 4:20pm
zehn wrote:

SMX was not a knee jerk but at this point if you believe that, you’re clearly not interested in facts 

How does WSX failing to deliver on their promises mean SMX is a knee jerk reaction to WSX? The 3 SMX races are actually happening. Wouldn't the clusterfuck of a rollout and numerous canceled rounds both years of WSX kinda prove the opposite?

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ML512 wrote:

Tried to get some updates this morning, but two of the teams I spoke to didn't know anything new, yet.

scott_nz wrote:

Singapore is 4 weeks away ?  Have they booked the teams booked airfares for this round ? 

ML512 wrote:

As far as I’m aware, Singapore is off and none of the teams I spokes to seemed to be preparing for it.

How many times has it been mentioned that SMX was planned before wsx ever was a thing? And is it true?

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scott_nz wrote:

Singapore is 4 weeks away ?  Have they booked the teams booked airfares for this round ? 

ML512 wrote:

As far as I’m aware, Singapore is off and none of the teams I spokes to seemed to be preparing for it.

NSP139 wrote:

How many times has it been mentioned that SMX was planned before wsx ever was a thing? And is it true?

There’s no doubt SMX was proposed well before WSX came into being, but it’s also pretty clear that WSX was the catalyst for making SMX actually happen, and in a hurry.

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zehn wrote:

SMX was not a knee jerk but at this point if you believe that, you’re clearly not interested in facts 

aeffertz wrote:
How does WSX failing to deliver on their promises mean SMX is a knee jerk reaction to WSX? The 3 SMX races are actually happening. Wouldn't...

How does WSX failing to deliver on their promises mean SMX is a knee jerk reaction to WSX? The 3 SMX races are actually happening. Wouldn't the clusterfuck of a rollout and numerous canceled rounds both years of WSX kinda prove the opposite?

Pretty sure we’re in agreement here. The SMX thing was being planned for a couple years before WSX was announced and therefore was not a knee jerk reaction to WSX

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9/1/2023 4:38pm Edited Date/Time 9/1/2023 4:40pm
CPR wrote:
There’s no doubt SMX was proposed well before WSX came into being, but it’s also pretty clear that WSX was the catalyst for making SMX actually...

There’s no doubt SMX was proposed well before WSX came into being, but it’s also pretty clear that WSX was the catalyst for making SMX actually happen, and in a hurry.

Do you have evidence of this other than that one was announced after the other, or you just feel like it?

 

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zehn wrote:

SMX was not a knee jerk but at this point if you believe that, you’re clearly not interested in facts 

aeffertz wrote:
How does WSX failing to deliver on their promises mean SMX is a knee jerk reaction to WSX? The 3 SMX races are actually happening. Wouldn't...

How does WSX failing to deliver on their promises mean SMX is a knee jerk reaction to WSX? The 3 SMX races are actually happening. Wouldn't the clusterfuck of a rollout and numerous canceled rounds both years of WSX kinda prove the opposite?

zehn wrote:
Pretty sure we’re in agreement here. The SMX thing was being planned for a couple years before WSX was announced and therefore was not a knee...

Pretty sure we’re in agreement here. The SMX thing was being planned for a couple years before WSX was announced and therefore was not a knee jerk reaction to WSX

I agree that it was talked about and investigated, but not planned.

If it was actually planned years ago, how is it that one week out from racing, the schedule has only just become available, courtesy of the venue not the promoter, a rider (Starling) who’s supposed to be racing (LCQ), doesn’t know what’s going on, and there’s been no release of who exactly is in?

All the things that WSX was constantly bashed for, but worse. Extremely poor planning if they started years ago….

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ML512 wrote:

As far as I’m aware, Singapore is off and none of the teams I spokes to seemed to be preparing for it.

NSP139 wrote:

How many times has it been mentioned that SMX was planned before wsx ever was a thing? And is it true?

CPR wrote:
There’s no doubt SMX was proposed well before WSX came into being, but it’s also pretty clear that WSX was the catalyst for making SMX actually...

There’s no doubt SMX was proposed well before WSX came into being, but it’s also pretty clear that WSX was the catalyst for making SMX actually happen, and in a hurry.

“That's just, like, your opinion, man.”

 

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9/1/2023 4:50pm Edited Date/Time 9/1/2023 4:51pm
CPR wrote:
I agree that it was talked about and investigated, but not planned. If it was actually planned years ago, how is it that one week out...

I agree that it was talked about and investigated, but not planned.

If it was actually planned years ago, how is it that one week out from racing, the schedule has only just become available, courtesy of the venue not the promoter, a rider (Starling) who’s supposed to be racing (LCQ), doesn’t know what’s going on, and there’s been no release of who exactly is in?

All the things that WSX was constantly bashed for, but worse. Extremely poor planning if they started years ago….

I can’t answer that but the races are being run, money is being paid, so no, not worse than WSX. It’s far better, actually.

I know you’re a huge supporter of the WSX series but to say that SMX has been executed far worse than WSX is pretty rich 

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9/1/2023 5:01pm Edited Date/Time 9/1/2023 5:05pm
CPR wrote:
I agree that it was talked about and investigated, but not planned. If it was actually planned years ago, how is it that one week out...

I agree that it was talked about and investigated, but not planned.

If it was actually planned years ago, how is it that one week out from racing, the schedule has only just become available, courtesy of the venue not the promoter, a rider (Starling) who’s supposed to be racing (LCQ), doesn’t know what’s going on, and there’s been no release of who exactly is in?

All the things that WSX was constantly bashed for, but worse. Extremely poor planning if they started years ago….

zehn wrote:
I can’t answer that but the races are being run, money is being paid, so no, not worse than WSX. It’s far better, actually. I know...

I can’t answer that but the races are being run, money is being paid, so no, not worse than WSX. It’s far better, actually.

I know you’re a huge supporter of the WSX series but to say that SMX has been executed far worse than WSX is pretty rich 

There’s no doubt the racing will be better, and I’m a moto fan so I love all racing and unlike others, I won’t gloat over the demise or failure of any series, race or rider. I hope SMX absolutely kills it.

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NSP139 wrote:

How many times has it been mentioned that SMX was planned before wsx ever was a thing? And is it true?

CPR wrote:
There’s no doubt SMX was proposed well before WSX came into being, but it’s also pretty clear that WSX was the catalyst for making SMX actually...

There’s no doubt SMX was proposed well before WSX came into being, but it’s also pretty clear that WSX was the catalyst for making SMX actually happen, and in a hurry.

DonM wrote:

“That's just, like, your opinion, man.”

 

Certainly is.
However, got any other rational theory or reason why SMX appears to be so lacking in organisation at such a late stage? Not even WSX was this bad for any of the races they did actually run.

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CPR wrote:
There’s no doubt SMX was proposed well before WSX came into being, but it’s also pretty clear that WSX was the catalyst for making SMX actually...

There’s no doubt SMX was proposed well before WSX came into being, but it’s also pretty clear that WSX was the catalyst for making SMX actually happen, and in a hurry.

DonM wrote:

“That's just, like, your opinion, man.”

 

CPR wrote:
Certainly is. However, got any other rational theory or reason why SMX appears to be so lacking in organisation at such a late stage? Not even...

Certainly is.
However, got any other rational theory or reason why SMX appears to be so lacking in organisation at such a late stage? Not even WSX was this bad for any of the races they did actually run.

I think you’re stretching here a bit…I don’t think they’re lacking organization maybe just somewhat on communication…And come on you really think at this point you can even try to compare them to WSX…if I remember right you one of those that thought WSX couldn’t do anything wrong and were their biggest defender….

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What second round?

Magoofan wrote:
Due to budgetary cutbacks, the program has changed.   [img]https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/01/34/77/17158127/4/rawImage.jpg[/img] [img]https://media.nbcnewyork.com/2019/09/monkey-jockey.jpg[/img]    

Due to budgetary cutbacks, the program has changed.

 

 

Quit down voting Magoofan you toads, he speaks the truth!

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I can’t answer that but the races are being run, money is being paid, so no, not worse than WSX. It’s far better, actually. I know...

I can’t answer that but the races are being run, money is being paid, so no, not worse than WSX. It’s far better, actually.

I know you’re a huge supporter of the WSX series but to say that SMX has been executed far worse than WSX is pretty rich 

And you know the second SMX round will actually happen, and even when and where.

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DonM wrote:

“That's just, like, your opinion, man.”

 

CPR wrote:
Certainly is. However, got any other rational theory or reason why SMX appears to be so lacking in organisation at such a late stage? Not even...

Certainly is.
However, got any other rational theory or reason why SMX appears to be so lacking in organisation at such a late stage? Not even WSX was this bad for any of the races they did actually run.

DonM wrote:
I think you’re stretching here a bit…I don’t think they’re lacking organization maybe just somewhat on communication…And come on you really think at this point you...

I think you’re stretching here a bit…I don’t think they’re lacking organization maybe just somewhat on communication…And come on you really think at this point you can even try to compare them to WSX…if I remember right you one of those that thought WSX couldn’t do anything wrong and were their biggest defender….

Can’t compare? Did WSX ever not have a published schedule or rider list a week out from a race they ran? Did any entered riders ever say they didn’t know what was happening a week before their supposed gate drop? MX Sports and Feld are not new to this, it can’t simply be poor communication.

As for WSX, yes I did defend it, but it was support in principle, because so many like yourself were determined to bag it at each and every turn. Well before the first race was run. Yet if I remember rightly, with SMX you’ve been saying we shouldn’t be negative before it even starts! 😂

My support for WSX was merely as an international fan wanting to have an accessible SX series. I fail to see how you can be a true moto fan if you delight in watching it or any series fail. Must be miserable individuals.

 

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