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Mavetism wrote:
No, standings updated and he is in 31th. He needed 4 points to get past Mcadoo after Moto 1 and he gained zero while Bennick and...

No, standings updated and he is in 31th. He needed 4 points to get past Mcadoo after Moto 1 and he gained zero while Bennick and Robertson gained points both motos. He's out.

davis224 wrote:

Jett, Thrasher, and Jmart won't be racing SMX in the 250 class and are in the top 30.

MotoMan12345 wrote:

Correct. I was worried AF wouldn’t get in but pumped he is. 

I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ.  If you are outside the top 30 there’s no second chances.

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davis224 wrote:

Jett, Thrasher, and Jmart won't be racing SMX in the 250 class and are in the top 30.

MotoMan12345 wrote:

Correct. I was worried AF wouldn’t get in but pumped he is. 

ando wrote:
I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ...

I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ.  If you are outside the top 30 there’s no second chances.

Makes more sense this way. Otherwise everyone from 31 downwards has to stay ready, make travel plans etc just in case someone in the top 30 gets hurt or decides not to race

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davis224 wrote:

Jett, Thrasher, and Jmart won't be racing SMX in the 250 class and are in the top 30.

MotoMan12345 wrote:

Correct. I was worried AF wouldn’t get in but pumped he is. 

ando wrote:
I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ...

I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ.  If you are outside the top 30 there’s no second chances.

But they're going to make sure they have at least 10 people in the LCQ, according to Matthes/Weege. Otherwise they may wind up only having 4-5 people on the gate due to injuries and they are all automatically getting in, making it pointless.

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Mavetism 8/26/2023 3:04pm
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MotoMan12345 wrote:

Correct. I was worried AF wouldn’t get in but pumped he is. 

ando wrote:
I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ...

I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ.  If you are outside the top 30 there’s no second chances.

crusty_xx wrote:
Makes more sense this way. Otherwise everyone from 31 downwards has to stay ready, make travel plans etc just in case someone in the top 30...

Makes more sense this way. Otherwise everyone from 31 downwards has to stay ready, make travel plans etc just in case someone in the top 30 gets hurt or decides not to race

Yeah pretty sure anyone outside the top 30th is out. That's what the rules say: 

Additionally, any racer outside the top 30 in combined points who won a Supercross Main Event or Pro Motocross Overall will also be eligible to compete in the LCQ race for the 21st and 22nd position. All racers outside the top 20 in combined points will begin the playoff rounds with zero points.

No mentioning of people automatically getting a free spot in the LCQ if someone inside the top 30th doesn't line up.

Guess we have to wait for official clarification.

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ando 8/26/2023 3:07pm
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davis224 wrote:
But they're going to make sure they have at least 10 people in the LCQ, according to Matthes/Weege. Otherwise they may wind up only having 4-5...

But they're going to make sure they have at least 10 people in the LCQ, according to Matthes/Weege. Otherwise they may wind up only having 4-5 people on the gate due to injuries and they are all automatically getting in, making it pointless.

Maybe, don’t know how they are going to account for attrition.

Perhaps with all the big money the promoters are ok if the field gets depleted to the point where they are paying out less.

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WFO Dave 8/26/2023 3:08pm
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Masterpool?

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Who knows.  This production team never ceases to disappoint.  Maybe mention what happened to the best privateer that is mixing it up with the factory boys...

Who knows.  This production team never ceases to disappoint.  Maybe mention what happened to the best privateer that is mixing it up with the factory boys. Probably bike issue with no time/parts to fix? Injured at the end of qualifying maybe?

Just heard he had appendicitis in the hospital. Get well soon buddy you made my season.

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davis224 wrote:

Jett, Thrasher, and Jmart won't be racing SMX in the 250 class and are in the top 30.

MotoMan12345 wrote:

Correct. I was worried AF wouldn’t get in but pumped he is. 

ando wrote:
I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ...

I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ.  If you are outside the top 30 there’s no second chances.

That is correct about the top 20 but I think if there are any riders that are out from 21-30 they will bring in more riders to make the LCQ 10 riders. 

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Chris_Buehler 8/26/2023 3:16pm
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Magoofan wrote:
Here is how I spent race day.      Couldn't sit thru another yawner race in the most boring season ever.        

Here is how I spent race day.      Couldn't sit thru another yawner race in the most boring season ever.

2023-08-26 13-48-46

 

2023-08-26 13-42-40

 

2023-08-26 13-44-58

 

Maybe start a thread about it in non moto instead of posting in the race thread then

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Mavetism 8/26/2023 3:24pm
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MotoMan12345 wrote:

Correct. I was worried AF wouldn’t get in but pumped he is. 

ando wrote:
I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ...

I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ.  If you are outside the top 30 there’s no second chances.

DonM wrote:
That is correct about the top 20 but I think if there are any riders that are out from 21-30 they will bring in more riders...

That is correct about the top 20 but I think if there are any riders that are out from 21-30 they will bring in more riders to make the LCQ 10 riders. 

That's what I heard Weege saying a couple times already this year, around 2:25
"If you're not in the top 30th, you don't have a chance to race for the money"

 

 

 

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aeffertz 8/26/2023 3:29pm
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Mavetism wrote:
That's what I heard Weege saying a couple times already this year, around 2:25 "If you're not in the top 30th, you don't have a chance...

That's what I heard Weege saying a couple times already this year, around 2:25
"If you're not in the top 30th, you don't have a chance to race for the money"

 

 

 

Yea but there has been talk in the past week about always filling up the LCQ with 10 riders. As of right now, if they only allowed the top 30 to enter, the 250 LCQ would be 7 riders and 4 would transfer into the mains. So I guess we’ll have to wait and see. 

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Mavetism 8/26/2023 3:31pm
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Mavetism wrote:
That's what I heard Weege saying a couple times already this year, around 2:25 "If you're not in the top 30th, you don't have a chance...

That's what I heard Weege saying a couple times already this year, around 2:25
"If you're not in the top 30th, you don't have a chance to race for the money"

 

 

 

aeffertz wrote:
Yea but there has been talk in the past week about always filling up the LCQ with 10 riders. As of right now, if they only...

Yea but there has been talk in the past week about always filling up the LCQ with 10 riders. As of right now, if they only allowed the top 30 to enter, the 250 LCQ would be 7 riders and 4 would transfer into the mains. So I guess we’ll have to wait and see. 

Yeah, would have been cool if they gave out more info, sucks if riders you like are outside the top 30th and we don't know what the fuck is going on Laughing

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gerg 8/26/2023 3:31pm
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Magoofan wrote:
Here is how I spent race day.      Couldn't sit thru another yawner race in the most boring season ever.        

Here is how I spent race day.      Couldn't sit thru another yawner race in the most boring season ever.

2023-08-26 13-48-46

 

2023-08-26 13-42-40

 

2023-08-26 13-44-58

 

Where are all your friends?

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WFO Dave 8/26/2023 3:44pm
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Magoofan wrote:
Here is how I spent race day.      Couldn't sit thru another yawner race in the most boring season ever.        

Here is how I spent race day.      Couldn't sit thru another yawner race in the most boring season ever.

2023-08-26 13-48-46

 

2023-08-26 13-42-40

 

2023-08-26 13-44-58

 

Most didn't agree but riding with that scenery is pretty cool, no matter. who you are! Heading to Cloudcroft Monday for some single track and a little time on the 1250RT! Safe travels!

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solidtwerks 8/26/2023 4:26pm
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flinttropicsMX wrote:

weege is such a blow hard anymore. thank god for James to keep us informed as to what's happening on the track

What are you even going on about?  Weege is the best person in the booth.  RC is absolutely terrible and while JS isn't the best, he is entertaining and occasionally insightful.  We'll see if he gets better.  But RC has had several years and still constantly stumbles over his words.  It's time for him to go. 

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kaidodragon 8/26/2023 10:39pm
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Fastest laps of the races 

 

250 race 1

 

1.49.343 = Jo Shimoda 

1.49.692 = Ryder Difrancesco 

1.50.201 = Haiden Deegan

1.50.288 = Tom Vialle

1.50.582 = Seth Hammaker 

1.50.852 = Max Vohland

1.51.544 = Stilez Robertson 

1.51.601 = Levi Kitchen 

1.51.624 = Hunter Lawrence 

1.51.638 = Tallon Hawkins 

 

450 race 1

 

1.48.649 = Jett Lawrence 

1.49.040 = Chase Sexton 

1.49.987 = Dylan Ferrandis 

1.50.596 = Jason Anderson 

1.51.465 = Aaron Plessinger 

1.51.514 = Adam Cianciarulo 

1.52.692 = Dylan Wright

1.52.759 = Garrett Marchbanks 

1.53.583 = Jess Pettis

1.53.634 = Harri Kullas

 

250 race 2

 

1.50.674 = Ryder Difrancesco 

1.50.723 = Jo Shimoda 

1.51.149 = Levi Kitchen 

1.51.199 = Justin Cooper

1.51.348 = Tom Vialle

1.51.872 = Haiden Deegan 

1.52.138 = Daxton Bennick

1.52.312 = Julien Beaumer

1.52.392 = Max Vohland

1.52.606 = Jalek Swoll 

 

450 race 2

 

1.48.479 = Jett Lawrence 

1.49.309 = Chase Sexton 

1.50.569 = Jason Anderson 

1.50.925 = Aaron Plessinger 

1.52.384 = Justin Barcia

1.53.748 = Adam Cianciarulo 

1.53.788 = Garrett Marchbanks 

1.53.852 = Phillip Nicoletti 

1.53.902 = Dylan Wright

1.54.300 = Fredrik Noren

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kaidodragon 8/26/2023 10:46pm
8/26/2023 10:46pm

450 stats 

 

Overall wins

 

11 = Jett Lawrence 

 

Overall podiums

 

11 = Jett Lawrence 

7 = Chase Sexton 

6 = Dylan Ferrandis 

3 = Aaron Plessinger 

2 = Cooper Webb 

2 = Jason Anderson 

1 = Ken Roczen 

1 = Adam Cianciarulo 

 

Race wins

 

22 = Jett Lawrence 

 

Race top 3

 

22 = Jett Lawrence 

16 = Dylan Ferrandis 

15 = Chase Sexton 

5 = Aaron Plessinger 

3 = Cooper Webb

2 = Jason Anderson 

1 = Adam Cianciarulo 

1 = Ken Roczen 

1 = Garrett Marchbanks 

 

Laps lead

 

329 = Jett Lawrence 

16 = Ken Roczen 

7 = Aaron Plessinger 

3 = Adam Cianciarulo 

2 = Dylan Ferrandis 

 

Holeshot

 

12 = Jett Lawrence 

5 = Dylan Ferrandis 

2 = Chase Sexton 

2 = Adam Cianciarulo 

1 = Ken Roczen 

 

Fastest lap of the race

 

17 = Jett Lawrence 

4 = Chase Sexton 

1 = Ken Roczen 

 

Fastest in practice 

 

10 = Jett Lawrence 

1 = Ken Roczen 

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kaidodragon 8/26/2023 10:46pm
8/26/2023 10:46pm

250 stats

 

Overall wins

 

7 = Hunter Lawrence 

2 = Haiden Deegan

1 = Tom Vialle

1 = Jo Shimoda 

 

Overall podiums

 

8 = Hunter Lawrence 

8 = Justin Cooper 

6 = Haiden Deegan

4 = Jo Shimoda 

3 = Levi Kitchen 

2 = RJ Hampshire 

2 = Tom Vialle

 

Race wins

 

7 = Hunter Lawrence 

4 = Justin Cooper 

3 = Haiden Deegan 

3 = Jo Shimoda 

2 = RJ Hampshire 

2 = Levi Kitchen 

1 = Tom Vialle

 

Race top 3

 

16 = Hunter Lawrence 

12 = Justin Cooper 

10 = Jo Shimoda 

9 = Haiden Deegan 

7 = Tom Vialle 

5 = RJ Hampshire 

4 = Levi Kitchen 

1 = Max Vohland 

1 = Chance Hymas

1 = Jalek Swoll

 

Laps lead

 

103 = Hunter Lawrence 

62 = Justin Cooper

53 = Jo Shimoda 

49 = Haiden Deegan 

31 = Levi Kitchen 

21 = RJ Hampshire 

14 = Tom Vialle 

10 = Ryder Difrancesco 

6 = Chance Hymas

5 = Jalek Swoll

 

Holeshot

 

4 = Haiden Deegan 

4 = Justin Cooper 

3 = Hunter Lawrence 

2 = Levi Kitchen 

2 = Jo Shimoda 

2 = Ryder Difrancesco 

1 = Jalek Swoll

1 = RJ Hampshire 

1 = Tom Vialle 

1 = Stilez Robertson 

1 = Austin Forkner 

 

Fastest lap of the race

 

8 = Hunter Lawrence 

4 = Haiden Deegan 

3 = Justin Cooper 

2 = RJ Hampshire 

2 = Jo Shimoda 

1 = Chance Hymas

1 = Levi Kitchen 

1 = Ryder Difrancesco 

 

Fastest in practice 

 

5 = Justin Cooper 

2 = Hunter Lawrence 

1 = Haiden Deegan 

1 = Daxton Bennick

1 = James Decotis

1 = Levi Kitchen 

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Shred 8/26/2023 10:51pm
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Congrats to Jett!  22-0 is pretty amazing!

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.….almost as good as 24-0..  ;-)

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jonesaustin wrote:
not fair and should never be brought up imo. let's see any of these guys go back in time on an 1988 CR250 and see how...

not fair and should never be brought up imo.

let's see any of these guys go back in time on an 1988 CR250 and see how they do without the luxury of knowledge bestowed upon them from the pioneers. same thing. don't think Ward or RJ would win? trust me, they would.

what is now, is now.

omg…see if you can borrow someone’s sense of humor for a bit.

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BCA2010 8/26/2023 11:42pm
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Why was masterpool not racing? I seen he was in qualifying 1

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I forgot how Kenny was another one to pressure Jett this year.

 

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Well the Lawrence bro’s double championship feat even made the nightly news here in Australia on free to air tv.
International MX probably hasn’t made the news here since Reedy 2009. Good to see.

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Hrzk75 wrote:
how can they miss so bad that deegan passed vialle? you saw him inching up for 3 minutes and nothing from broadcast that the pass has...

how can they miss so bad that deegan passed vialle? you saw him inching up for 3 minutes and nothing from broadcast that the pass has been made.

The same way they missed the incredible racing in the top 10 the first moto. We got to watch Hunter move through the pack as the other riders shit the bed for him.

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ando wrote:
I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ...

I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ.  If you are outside the top 30 there’s no second chances.

UNtil there is...

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ando wrote:
I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ...

I don’t think it works that way.  My understanding is that if riders in the top 20 are out they just take more from the LCQ.  If you are outside the top 30 there’s no second chances.

MxAddic wrote:

UNtil there is...

Yeah it seems from some of the commentary yesterday that they might take additional riders if injuries etc reduce the numbers.

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The start of 450 moto 2 was something I can't comprehend; 18 and 21 jumped early and had to stop and restart and all the other riders who started clean were 1-2 bike links ahead. Nobody to the left of 18 moved over to the right and shut him down and instead they left it wide open for Jett to almost get another holeshot . . . Felt like I was watching wrestling and it was scripted,

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Ozy wrote:
The start of 450 moto 2 was something I can't comprehend; 18 and 21 jumped early and had to stop and restart and all the other...

The start of 450 moto 2 was something I can't comprehend; 18 and 21 jumped early and had to stop and restart and all the other riders who started clean were 1-2 bike links ahead. Nobody to the left of 18 moved over to the right and shut him down and instead they left it wide open for Jett to almost get another holeshot . . . Felt like I was watching wrestling and it was scripted,

Go watch the replay again.  Nobody to the left of Jett had more than about a wheel or half a bike on him.Start Ironman M2.jpg?VersionId=te20coqjBxrXZG5S1lh.VeQ9

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Well the Lawrence bro’s double championship feat even made the nightly news here in Australia on free to air tv. International MX probably hasn’t made the...

Well the Lawrence bro’s double championship feat even made the nightly news here in Australia on free to air tv.
International MX probably hasn’t made the news here since Reedy 2009. Good to see.

I was on YouTube and this popped up in my recommendations.

 

 

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CPR wrote:
Well the Lawrence bro’s double championship feat even made the nightly news here in Australia on free to air tv. International MX probably hasn’t made the...

Well the Lawrence bro’s double championship feat even made the nightly news here in Australia on free to air tv.
International MX probably hasn’t made the news here since Reedy 2009. Good to see.

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I was on YouTube and this popped up in my recommendations.    

I was on YouTube and this popped up in my recommendations.

 

 

Since the initial mention in the news, I’ve been pleasantly surprised by just how many times they have made other tv news, sports and current affairs shows like that here in Australia. Good to see.

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