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Yep, in a flat field, with #84 to tempt him.
If Deegan decides not to go, the people talking shit about Matthes and saying how much the Deegans love America should be ashamed of themselves.
Yet he's out there every weekend racing against the best in his class. Your comment seems uniformed.
Racing outside of the US is another story!
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Yup.
It isn’t the 1980s any more, our riders have a hard time on European circuits because they are a lot harder than USA tracks.
it’s not popular but it’s the truth.
Almost like he is contracted and paid to race those races 🧐
Curious why you think Vialle didn't do as well then with the tracks not being as hard over here? Does outright speed and being able to learn a new track fast mean more than being able to ride "a lot harder" tracks in Europe?
Keep in mind this was also Deegan's first year doing all the Nationals and he seemed to adapt better than Vialle at the 1 day format of learning a new track and line selection.
Dunno why about Vialle.
homesick, culture shock, completely different motorcycle? Too much time training for supercross?
Remember MXGP guys start their training in December and they only train for outdoor moto in the worst shit conditions. Tom is a two sport rider now because he has to train for supercross in addition to outdoor moto.
Also, places like Arnhem, Lommel, st Jean, and Ernée are just crazy difficult tracks, it’s hard for guys who don’t ride them normally to just roll in for a one off race and do well- although I think Jett will be the exception, because like the crazy lady on the airplane said, “That Motherfucker is not Real” 😂
1980s?
Did you know USA won 7 straight from 2005 to 2011 and 5 of those were on European tracks including Ernee? lol
Obviously Assen and Lommel are a problem for us but if we lose at Ernee it's not because the track is too hard.
Edit: You just mentioned St Jean and the US won there in 2000 and 2011
That’s one GP champion who in his first year has won an overall and done OK. Give him time to adapt. Just about every GP champ who has come to the US has won titles.
Different time...different riders. Track prep is totally different for each series. If the MXoN was a multi day event....the results would be different.
In his home country, with his full support crew, and if not familiar tracks then familiar surroundings.
Racing out of your comfort zone is a true test of yourself.
Right I was just responding to the "it isn't the 1980's any more" comment.
I think Vialle did great. I did think he would do better though being a multi Champ. I expected more than 1 podium.
I think there’s a few things that factor in .
1. the bike ( clear to see it’s not the best )
2. Learning tracks
3. The schedule being completely different .
I don’t think it’s a terrible season , but not a great one either 👍
I think if Deegan wasnt having the season that he is, Vialles season would be looked at much more optimistically. It has been awhile since we've seen a rookie come in and immediately be a factor, Deegan is having an unreal season, that shouldn't diminish what Vialle has done.
As mentioned by Brent he had to learn supercross, and he had some pretty good crashes. I'd guess Vialle isn't 100% this summer, going from a champion, to the new guy at supercross would be tough to adapt to.
Culture shock, different format, supercross, probably banged up - makes for a tough first year.
US riders have consistently done well at Ernee... Even somewhat recently. I wouldn't suddenly slide them down the order drastically because of "that" track.
Pit Row
Is it just the Kawi USA team that won't support the event? The euro Kawi guys like Febvre get team support don't they?
Honestly I am surprised because Ernée, in term of soil and track prep, is not not far of Washougal where he killed it. It won't be a rut fest, it will be hard pack, not much prep, slick in some parts with water and tacky in others, that is why I was really thinking he would go there and really perform. Waving the flag twice was for me an application letter. I guess spending 20-30 ground+ for his infrastructure with 0 on the line is a factor. Nobody should pay to go to work (and represent their country), especially with all the risks involved (and 2 extra week of work). Maybe he is also a little heated with already 24 races all over the country on the calendar this year ... In all cases, if he doesn't go, that sucks for the people going there and for the US team as a top 250 rider is mandatory to have a chance to win. Start money should be there for people capable to bring 1000 more entries + camping + all the extras.
My whole point on learning the tracks and 1 day format was that Deegan did just fine this year as a rookie.
To further my point I was trying to say he would be just fine in France as well. He seems to be ok with adapting quickly.
All I will ask is that you look at the seasonal weather trends for the MXON track in France for October…
Look at the results.
Ernee has held the mxon twice in the last 20 years. 2015 and 2005.
2015 USA finished 2nd, 2 points behind the winner France.
2005 USA won, finishing 8 points up on 2nd place France.
It's not the 80s any more
Ol Brent is a bit biased…
No one has mentioned it, but in the MXGP’s, they can run whatever the fuck they want as well. Vialle is on a production bike here. He didn’t get to ride a bike anywhere near what he raced in the MXGP’s.
The last time our team won on foreign soil was 2011. That is not recent.
Those great racers were major talents but they are all retired now.
No American racing in this years MXON are as good as the guys who won in 2011 - furthermore, no American racer can even win a single moto in our own 450 series against a foreign rookie in the class, on tracks they have been racing on on for years
No American can even pass the 450 leader without crashing.
These are facts not opinion. ugly but still facts.
I agree,what results he could have had on a Star bike?
He is contracted, but do you think that's the only reason he's out there? Haiden wants to prove himself, and so far he's done a good job of it. He's having what should be considered a very successful rookie season, yet some of you think he's just dodging competition. What pattern in his pro racing career has he shown that gives merit to your claims?
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