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It's such a KTM ripoff, I bet the bore and stroke are within 10% of the KTM's. That's all the proof I need.
I apologize in advance I haven't been keeping up much lately. After reading the Triumph thread my understanding is.....
Triumph has made the commitment to invest millions of dollas into bring a new bike into the sport that we all love
The frame looks like a Yamaha
The engine looks like a KTM
No one likes the way they are releasing it
Their marketing sucks
The bike is just a copy
Since when did the Vital community turn into a bunch of whiney little B****es?
Every brand is within 10% on bore and stroke!
KTM (81x48.5) and Yamaha (77x53.6) are the furthest apart with everyone else falling between their numbers.
This is fucking great, thank you! Confirmation that people who don’t have a clue what they’re talking about just like to moan for the sake of it. That’s all the proof I need.
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You haven't seen the Stark Varg thread, have you? Makes this one look like positive reinforcement.
Cool stuff! I mean it’s not a pure racing engine, but it’s nicely done.
However, that raises the question: why didn’t they do the development for the mx engine themselves?
Sorry, not sorry. This whole bike reeks of being a cover band. Letdown City. I guess once the whole bike is revealed, then possibly it'll be a mild curiosity since it says Triumph and comes in a different colour. Biggest blue balls ever.
It shows that you don’t have a clue if you think that such differences in bore and stroke don’t make much of a difference.
I think there are a few broken sarcasm detectors on this board.
You’re wrong on this.
if anything, Kawasaki kept that design whilst Suzuki did their own thing.
I had a Pro-Cirvuit head on an 06 KXF, it didn’t fit the 07 RMZ.
whikst it continued to fit the KXF up until 2010 when they went EFI.
2006 was a new design for Kawasaki, for Suzuki it was a carry over of the 2004-2005 engine
Nope.
the 06 KXF & RMZ had the same motors.
the KXF went to an Aluminium frame that year though.
then in 07, Suzuki went Aluminium frsme and changed the engine. Whilst kawasaki continued on with the same engine.
No.
This argument should be settled with a dance off....................Cod pieces not allowed!
Kawasaki made quite a few changes to the 06 motor. It was not the same as the Suzuki.
From arguing about an unreleased bike to now arguing about almost 20 year old engine designs. Never change vital, never change.
Kawasaki chassis. Suzuki engine. You can tell just by looking at them. Compare them to other models of the era.
They updated some internal parts for the 06 bike, but it was still the same basic design.
Had one the seized the intake cam at 5 hours.
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Sure. It was still not the same motor as Suzuki.
You could swap engine and exhaust between the aluminum and steel frame bikes.
Same basis design.
I think we're agreeing here??? I'm not real sure what else to say. Kawi took the 05 motor and made some changes. Suzuki did not make any changes to the 05 motor.
Just watched that, said it a copy of the KTM engine and makes 44HP and very excited for it
44 at the wheel? That would be generally in ballpark with the current KTM, and ahead of most of em.
Agreed! In the 70's, my brother had a Hodaka. I believe it was a 100 or 125. It ran fine. When we tore it down, we discovered that it was running a Suzuki piston.
https://aj1moto.com/collections/engines/products/zongshen-nx250-engine
That's 100% at the crank given the purpose of the publishing statistic, but also likely never meaningfully actually measured at all.
I'd put Triumph in a different situation in terms of just spitting out spec.
44? Well isn't that cute...
can we please just change the title of the post to September
I bet it even has a crankshaft, camshaft, piston, wrist pin, gears, clutch, silver color just like a KTM engine....f-ing rip off!…aaahhhhh
Might have missed it.. but how do they plan on racing this bike in sx this year? Thought they had to sell 500 units for it to be homologated ?
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