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Society doesn’t shit all over it, just some of the cult members here that like the Lawrence story more and don’t like the Deegans.
If the risk they took never paid off we wouldn’t be here talking about it. They’d be on welfare somewhere or who knows where. I have a 16 yr old here who would love to be the next Messi but I’m not betting the farm and living in a shack eating Mr.Noodle to finance his one In a million chance. He likes engineering, I’d rather support that.
Seriously though, the announcers were literally Eating this headline up on the broadcast…….. oh wait. No pun intended…but really
and y’all know I’m not a Lawrence (hunter or jet) fan but I am happily for them.
No one here has shit all over the Deegan's being rich (Well not that I've seen)
What if your 16 year old showed incredible promise at Soccer got an offer on a team in Europe that will take him to his dream? What would you do then?
What all the nay sayers are missing (This is from memory so I could be off on a few things) the Lawrence's got a ride on a team so they could've played it safe and stayed in Australia or take the incredible (seeming) offer and work towards the dream.. It didn't seem like a risk at that time, but the team didn't pay them, they still had bikes and a mechanic and whatever else needed to go riding they just had no or little income to live on, so the options they had were stay and work or come back home to nothing.. Hunter would've 100% felt pressure to get results to get on a better more reliable team.. One that paid THEM money!
Whether more people are struggling now or how successful they are now has fucken zero to do with it!
Yet you're throwing a sweet cloud of dirt Paul. Sounds like you don't have to be so hard on yourself.
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Oh yeah, it's *than, smarty pants. 🤭
I think there is a misconception with risking it all for your kids. The Hunter boys showed world class potential as kids. Much different than parents in the US taking little Johnny out of school and parking him in Cairo Georgia because he is winning his local races.
It's kind of like being one of the best carpenter's anyone has seen and going out on your own to start your own business building homes. Seems like you have a good shot right? ..... instead of being the best carpenter on your 5 man crew and thinking that you're ready to do it on your own.
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I’d do my due diligence and make sure I wasn’t signing up with a sketchy team that would leave me to rot in a mouldy apartment eating bread sandwiches. I’d have a contingency plan and back up funds. Maybe they are bigger risk takers, good for them. It paid off.
Oh ok of course you're obviously a much better father than Darren Lawrence.. Please take to your throne as father of the millenium
You asked a question, didn’t like the answer and now you’re all sour😂
I thought the Lawrence dad was father of the millennium judging by all the nut swingers here.
Nah not sour champ just realising there's no getting you to see it from any other angle because you obviously make the right decision at every opportunity.. Good luck with your engineer
Cooper had 2 DNS at High Point also and he also has more points then Deeg
Not to diminish the stress of being screwed in a business deal and left hanging, but they were not refugees.
Every dam race this year, “ do you know where they came from the path they had to take to get where they are”
fuckin a mate It’s like a broken record yes we know the story. Cry me a river boys.
At least they didn’t set up a gofundme
1. When a recognized team, the official Kawasaki Factory team signs your two boys. It isn’t like your kiddo dreaming about being Messi. It is more like your kiddo being scouted & signed by an European club on young age, and than the club doesn't seem to be very healthy at the financial level. What results in some problems... You can walk away or bite through the bullet.
2. Jett and Hunter Lawrence where already scouted to be the new Christophe Pourcel, Antonio Cairoli or to keep it in their country: Chad Reed, Michael Byrne or late Andrew McFarlane. Again that is not like your kiddo dreaming, its more like making the dream work.
3. Sadly the Lawrence brothers crossed twice the pad of teams that where going under. Little did they know that, after the CLS Kawasaki debacle, that Suzuki was on the edge of making the biggest mistake in MX History. Dropping Jett & Hunter Lawrence together with Liam Everts and Jeremy Seewer. Throwing away a great line-up of riders and the full factory effort...
LOL at the goobers talking about the Lawerence boys showing world class potential as children and being "scouted" by European teams. My God we I hear everyone bitching about parents selling the farm to go all in with little billy over here in the USA when he gets signed by the Orange Brigade on 65's. But if they're from another country it's awesome!!! They had such an amazing journey! Do you know how many Australians (or any other country for that matter) come over here thinking they're the next Chad Reed? They're dominating every race at home. They come to the US thinking they're coming to win LL and don't even fucking qualify? Literally every year tons of kids that everyone thought was the next big deal goes home very humbled. And lets be honest, they were good riders for sure but it's not like they were just obliterating the competition back then.
My real problem though is not that they moved across the world to race dirt bikes. Not a problem with that at all. It's that some knucklehead dad did it and put the entire families financial well being on the shoulders of his children. As i said previously, as a father, you have 1 job. Feed and shelter your family. He literally put his 1 job on the shoulders of his kids. And it's fine. It's your family but stop fucking celebrating it every time their name is brought up... Ask Villopoto how he felt about having his families financial lives be on his shoulders as a kid.
You didn’t bother watching any of the interviews with the back story huh?
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Thx I’m pretty hard on myself for screw ups I know 🥲. But every last coin went to my bike for no reason just because it looked cool. Always broke waiting for the next pay check I had the wrong priorities. I was in best condition of my life back then, better then anyone else in my squad (was in the army ) but always broke who needs black wheels when you train hard and race to finish without crashing because of extra costs finish as good as possible. I could stay hours in my shed just cleaning the bike work on this work on that. I loved my bike more then myself. and I still hate it when pro’s throw their bike in the dirt after a win or rev it to hell (Herlings after the title win) I can’t watch it 😖 but I just should have saved my money ride a stock bike and go full throttle without giving a damn just ride the shit out of it and finish strong it’s a bike not a person 🫣
I would say Villopoto is fine with his family betting everything on his racing abilities. He made an estimated $30million during his career (according to Weimer on Pulp). RV also said he was making $6million a year during his 450 years (also in a Pulp interview).
Dazzy is a risk taker and it paid off. Now he gets to Jet set (ha) around the world on the coat tails of his boys. Well played m8!
I'm okay with people passionately defending facts, but passionately defending assumptions is sketchy at best.
Yes I mean you.
Thanks. I was out traveling most of the day so was bouncing in and out of the race. I’ll have to re watch
I think if Hunter really wants to get in Hayden's head all he has to do is at the end of the season change his permanent # to 38. The Deegan's would explode. LOL Obviously Hunter won't do that and I'm not advocating for it just playing Devils Advocate.
He should do it - It would be hilarious.
I'll be honest, my eyes glazed over b/c i've heard the story 3000 times this year. Certainly heard it on in the background but curious what part of it are you gathering that i missed?
Are you new to the sport? Villo was very open about this stuff. Sure he's come to terms with it later on in life. Is he happy where his life is now? I'd imagine it's better than he ever dreamed. But that doesn't negate how irresponsible it was of his parents to put the entire families financial lives on his shoulder while he was a kid. He's publicly discussed this.
Again, for every success story like the Lawerences and Villo there are hundreds of families completely torn apart due to this kind of decision. People can do what they want but we should stop celebrating it. Celebrate the dad that built a successful business, sends his daughter to private school, and takes little Johnny racing in the big RV without the kids having to eat ramen noodles. That dudes the real winner.
Does Weege or Carmichael say it this weekend for the thousandth time “the path these brother took to get to the USA to race”
“sacrificed everything”
every other pro motocross racers family has sacrificed everything as well.
they have been here like 4 years we know!
No, I'm not new to the sport. I've never seen an interview with RV where he says it was irresponsible of his parents to bank everything on his racing career. I have seen the interviews - which you seem to be referring to - where he talks about the pressure coming from his family's financial situation relying on him. The fact that he is happy with his life now would indicate he is on the whole happy with the decisions his family made. You also seem to be somehow equating the Villopoto's experience with any family who spends all their money on their kids motocross career. The risk is clearly not the same for everyone. From a rational objective risk assessment perspective, betting on RV being successful was clearly a reasonable conclusion. He was constantly in the top two or three of American amateurs throughout his amateur career. Further, RV has never indicated that he was forced into continuing racing. He recognized that he was supremely gifted at this particular activity and also recognized he could make a career from it. Your example of the private school girl is odd. Does being sent to private school not also have its problems? Couldn't the girl in question be unhappy with this, or feel that she is being sent there just because her parent's want it? In many cases the parents of said girl may be going into debt or cutting spending elsewhere to afford the tuition fees, banking on their decision being in the best interests of the child. Does the fact that this is the case not put pressure on the girl?
You're trying to cast RV's parents as heartless and self-interested, using RV for their own ends. The real story is they recognized their son's unique abilities and provided the backing for him to make the most of these.
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