MXGP Rumours/Silly season

Febvre deserves every $ with the way he is riding. But who is going to pay him if Kawa isnt? 

Triumph maybe but they're not ready with the 450 yet. So in reality Febvre is not in the best position, there aren't many high salary rides available.

Kawi/ Ice one can’t afford 2 good guys it seems. Did Febvre wait to long or did the team rather signed Seewer… 

There where rumors earlier this year Husqvarna would comeback in MXGP, is this still going around? 
 

Looks like we need some rides as also Yamaha scaling down from 3 to 2 and Coldenhoff looking for something..

If kawasaki cares about winning a chip they should re-sign febvre.

Im not sure about yamaha scalling down from 3 to 2. Last rumors told me Seewer will stay with yamaha and yamaha will keep 3 bikes in each class.

I heard that Kawasaki went after Prado, and Febvre didn't like that at all

Febvre and Prado have some history between them. It started back in 21, when Febvre was in the title fight. He thought that Prado tried to push him off track etc. when Prado said congratulations to Febvre to the silver medal, Febvre called him an asshole. Lewis Phillips had this story on his mxvice podcast in that same year.

however Renaux and Febvre doesn’t seem to be good friends either. Rumors say that Febvre got an offer from Yamaha and Renaux didn’t like that at all. 
 

btw Febvre isn’t the most likable guy in the paddock according to words from the other teams.
 

however if there will be a 2 or 3 rider line up in the Yamaha pits remain to be seen, some say 2 some 3.

Maybe IceOne can't afford to have 2 top guys on Kawi, but Wilvo for sure has deep pockets. And we all know that he wants that championship bad. Still no news about Kemea doing MX2 or MXGP though? As the word was that Wilvo was out. Also really looking forward what Standing will do. Jonass rode great yesterday, but injuries keep him from being consistent. I see Coldenhoff going back once again, he is on a contract year right? I heard Prado going to Kawi, but not sure if that will happen then after comments from some of you guys. Husky back in the paddock would make sense, but with which team? Wilvo? We also have some guys coming over from MX2. Geerts is signed with Yamaha, but vd Moosdijk has nothing confirmed yet. Same for Horgmo, Pancar (probably own team), and a few others.

If Yamaha doesn't exercise their option on Glenn, he'll go to Standing with Pauls Jonass (I think Bogers would be out).

Prado staying GasGas.

Kemea runs MXGP with at least Geerts and Renaux, with a third spot to fill.

Kawasaki has made and offer and it sounds like they signed someone not named Febvre. Febvre staying at Kawasaki is still possible. (Mitch Evans will not be retained)

Wilvo still doesn't have an OEM for 2024.

Husqvarna MXGP talk was to have Nestaan run one 450 alongside their 250s, but the rider list is short they want. They don't want to field a bike just to field a bike, it has to be competitive.

What do you think the chances are of Febvre running that 450 Husky?

I also heard in the paddock of the Lommel GP that Ferrandis will come back in gp's ? 

Coldenhoff to standing is obviously done.

Wants to stay here.

Low.

Must be desperate if he does, wasn’t the reason he left the GP’s because he was getting beat week in week out 

He won't. / Not at all.

Febvre was contracted with Kawasaki and joined IceOne when they came Factory team. Not sure if current offer is from direct Kawasaki and IceOne is just team running for them. 

Interesting to hear that Infront are wanting to ban all the hospitality fishbowls in the paddock, 'because the fans cant see', but fail to see the irony , when you cant see half the track for all the fucking advertising boards at most of the races. 

They both need fucking off,  gin palaces out the back,  and banners as per AMA where they are on the fences. 

In fairness, Infront said that they have perhaps gone too far with the advertising boards in their email to the teams.

It's discussed in HERE.

I'll say this: A LOT has changed/is on hold at the moment. 90% of what I've seen on this most recent page is wrong, haha.

Phil

 The size of the advertising boards has been pissing me off for years. I’ve pissed and moaned about it for numerous years on this forum. Why would you take a kid?

I haven`t attended MXGP race since 2014 just because I got in word fight with organizers of Latvian GP on a subject of bullshit banners. You can not see shit.

90% ?

Maybe a little bit exaggerated, don't you think ?

True, it’s not the same anymore, I wouldn’t take my kids. Remember lifting my kids over the fence and Steven Clarke let the kids sit on the bike just before a big race. MXGP is a snooze fest. If I was a rider would defo be looking to go to US. Lewis left at the right time to go to vital there is way more buzz around the AMA nationals. 

I'll get my calculator out and get you an exact percentage.

I think its not the number one priority.

I called it out on here after Lommel and was told it was 'progress'..  It was bad enough when they charge you for paddock access , and all have the windows down in the awnings, but this is a new level of 'fuck you' to the people who PAY to turn up and watch. 

How much stuff do you need to ride a motorbike round a field. 

Best of luck with the Hard Card LOL

Enlighten us

Infront have a huge dilemma on their hands. Clearly the want the series “made for tv” but it’s not appealing on TV anymore. The tracks are boring to watch. These man made 1 off tracks are horrendous. These tracks unfortunately will only get more popular because of all the fluff the promoter wants with corporate activation. With this activation the “fluff” is too big for the great gp tracks of Europe to house so we go to theses shit fests. 
All this corporate activation definitely ain’t bringing the bikes to the grid.

just my opinion but:

fuck off the huge banners

put the crowd in the inside of the tracks as well. This ain’t nascar.

ban the fish bowls.

limit the transporters a team can bring.

shrink the infrastructure so the series can go to some classic tracks.

Big changes are needed cause the series is just treading water.

Well Richard i agree with all the actions you say, but to be honest i don't think MX is ever going to work for 'made for tv'. Sure we mx fans like to see it but there simply isnt a big enough audience to actually make some good money on tv

They need to go to some proper tracks. These 1:45 lap times ain’t cutting it on Jnr tracks.

If I’m correct Honda have a transporter for the bikes another one for parts and a third one for hospitality? Now that’s three transporters for 2 bikes. 
Magiora is a grand classic track which has atmosphere like most old school tracks. People want to watch racing at the Big M. 
Hawkstone park I heard GP’s can’t go there because there isn’t enough room for the infrastructure that MXGP seems to think it needs.
These man made car park tracks I find myself watching the highlights instead of the full races.
 

you've made a lot of points, so this breakdown might get lengthy....

1. Lets cover this supposed "too many many man-made tracks" argument...
Man-made/car-park: 3 - Spain (not a car-park, but I'll put it in here), Lombok, Turkey
Natural: 16 - Argentina, Sardinia, Frauenfeld, Trentino, Agueda, France, Latvia, Teutschenthal, Sumbawa (recently made, but amazing), Czech, Belgium, Finland, Sweden, Netherlands, Maggiora, Great Britain

so.... 16-3 in favour of natural/non-man-made tracks. Can we please stop saying this now?

2. Best racing so far this year, without a doubt.... Lombok
Worst racing so far this year, without a doubt.... Sweden, close second Teutschenthal...

A lot of these old-school tracks do NOT produce good racing. Loket is also pretty poor for passing and good battling.

3. The banners are definitely too big. They suck. They have for a few years and its really crap for viewing at pretty much every track. Some tracks manage better than others due to elevation, but overall, everyone hates them.

4. Crowd on the inside... not easy at too many tracks due to layout and access, and also safety (unfortunately we live in a H&S day and age, where we are a 'bike going into the crowd' away from big problems. Think Gajser at Matterley a few years ago, or Guadagnini almost in Sweden.)

5. Ban fish bowls... No. The people who actually have to work inside them, love them. They are cleaner. They are quieter. They are less affected by the weather. They take shorter time to put up and take down. They take less effort to take up and put down. They are cheaper in the long-term for the teams. They take up less space than a normal truck + awning. Quite simply, they are an improvement in everyway for the people that travel and work with them 20+ weekends a year.

The ONE arguement against.... the fans don't get as good a look at the bike.

OK, sure. You can definitely see through the HRC and Standing Construct glass, Kawi is less inviting. You can also see the bikes when they get washed. And if you have access to pitlane or other VIP areas, you can check out the bikes as much as you want.

6. Number of trucks teams use taking up too much space. Team HRC have used 3x trucks for at least 5 years (below is a photo from 2019, which is 4 years, but shows what Team HRC used to have). You can't even see the trucks behind these awnings, because they are so big. As I highlighted in the earlier answer. The new fish bowls take up LESS SPACE. You are Dutch, so you definitely know the concept of caravans and these things are essentially a caravan, where the 'car' can be parked anywhere. The trailer is SMALLER than the older style trailers, and even moreso when you consider the awning which take up a shit-load of space. The 'car' can drive in, drop the trailer and then park itself ANYWHERE. You can't do that with the old style trucks.

7. Classic tracks. I believe I covered this point, but we already go to A LOT of classic tracks, and the vast majority of them suck for racing.

8. You've obviously never been to Hawkstone, but that place is an absolute nightmare logistically. It is a small one-laned (not one lane in either direction, one-laned total) road in and out, so once in, you can't leave or you just hit all the traffic coming in and vice versa. The pits are tiny and in a field that isn't flat at all. There is zero mobile coverage, so good luck with broadcasting.

So yea.... hopefully that answers a lot of your points. I'm sure I made grammatical errors, but the overall gist of the message remain - A lot of what you are complaining about is simply not correct...