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Some of you Americans are weird about patriotism. I bet there's not many other national series in sports that make it a home country vs foreigners.
aren't Puerto Ricans American citizens?
Kinda like when most teams want to beat the usa team at mxon. Lol. Yea thats not bias. Read the internet, tomac isnt even racing and his name is brought up.
You clearly don’t understand the nuance of the conversation. No one is saying you can’t cheer for your country or chant USA.
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Yes, but they can't vote!
Matthes clickbait!
Wonder if Brian will leave a Tony Alessi style note in the Star pits "Matthes Not Allowed"!
Wonder how long before he backpedals?
"Calm down people. All I was saying was..."
The Pro Motocross championship is an international championship as it has competitors from different countries competing. It is not a world tour.
You might want to check that.
It’s a National Championship that allows international competitors to compete & even has rules for what numbers foreign champions can run.
That’s not true. They have their own constitution and own elected officials that they vote for. They’re not a US state so they don’t have full representation in the US house and Senate nor can they vote in US presidential elections. They do have a representative in the US house that can introduce legislation, however. They also don’t pay US federal income tax.
Is there really a difference?
If ANYONE is gonna wrap themselves in the American flag (and everything it stands for)... they ought to be the best example of a citizen. To be less is demeaning/degrading to its intended purpose.
From my experience...folks that are true patriots and citizens would never dream of using our symbols of Nationality for personal gain. Just my .02.
P.S. I think Deegan has earned a spot on our MXdN team. He doesn't need any gimmicks or bullshit. His riding is awesome.
Sort of, but kind of second class citizens really. Puerto Rico has a higher population than about 20 US States, but their residents don't get full representation in the House and Senate. They don't get to vote for President as Puerto Rico gets no electoral college votes.
I don't see a problem
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Has he done that at any other rounds, or only after Deegan talked shit on his brother and talked about an American being on top?
The fact this is even a topic of discussion is pathetic. There's no issue with anyone flying flags or being patriotic on the podium. Jett flying the Aussie flag and Deegan flying the American flag...what's the issue??.
You guys would really have a problem if Brazilians were dominating our sport. You haven't seen "patriotic" until you've seen Brazilians celebrate their victories.
Again no one is saying you can’t bring the flag on the podium or represent your country. Weaponizing your nationality against others not from your country is where it gets blurry.
if Hunter wins I hope he says something like ‘glad I could put the guy from earth on the top step’.
Weaponizing…?
You’re looking for something that isn’t there.
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For those who have any sort of problem with this, something to think about:
1. It was the first 1-1 of the year which is a huge achievement from a rookie in a stacked field
2. He's trying to showcase himself for the MXON
3. The Aussie brothers have been dominating the series and that's been the talk of the town
3. He 17 and was very excited to finally be on the top step and take down the dominant Aussie with a 1-1
i.e, I'm glad I could finally win one of these for all you spectators (AKA American crowd).
You guys are reading waaaay too much into this. You act like he's been winning every race and repeating this on the podium after every win.
he's 2 for 2 on saying it. Said it at Redbud, 4th of July weekend and makes complete sense, and now washougal
He said the exact same thing? If he did, you have a problem with it?
The entire deegan family is proud they are Americans and are big time conservatives. This whole country is a laughing stock right now. The kid is proud and so what. If hunter wins and says he’s proud to put the Aussie on top and waves a flag who the fuck cares. He’s proud as he should be! Problem in todays society everyone is so scared to say or do anything. This country has turned into a big pile of pussies. They are trying to ban this and ban that and for God sakes if you have an American flag you’re a racist. Let everyone up there wave their flag,
Probably the best response in the thread, but it will be overlooked by the mob who want to stake the heads of anyone who isnt draped in a flag and willing to completely shut their eyes and close their ears in the name of USA!!
There are certain words, that when they are used by someone I can easily distinguish in my head that the conversation is going to go nowhere and can just be ended right there. I usually just nod my head and chuckle in "agreement" with whatever regurgitation they are drooling out at that point. "Woke" is one of them. It is a made-up word by brain-dead "media" sources used by nobody with mental maturity over the age of 11.
not positive if it was the exact same thing, but it was the same message, American winning the race.
I don't have a problem with it, I see it the same as many others, it's the Deegans doing what they do best, selling. Starting a little "battle" similar to Deegan vs Pastrana, theyre hyping Haiden vs Hunter.
At worst its pandering, at best it's smart business.
Who knows, maybe im completely wrong and the Deegans are super proud of their country.
A little of that might be because many of us Americans don't see it as just a "national" series. Riders from around the world participate and when the "other" series claims to be a world championship, it's nothing more than a self proclamation...
Just like this is:
But I don't get in to, or concerned with where the rider is from unless it's MXoN... Which is specifically a team competition pitting country against country. And it's a great opportunity to show your national pride in this sport.
I'm a big fan of many riders from multiple countries.... Ken Roczen, Tom Vialle and Jo Shimoda for example in AMA. Tim Gajser and Simon Laengenfelder in the GP's also.
Just enjoy the racing!
This is a molehill being made into a mountain. Lighten up.
Someone else said "patriotism is the first (or last) refuge of scoundrels"
No I’m not. Deegans playbook is very clear. Turn idiot fans against the Lawrence’s simply because they are from another country.
You’re making that up and even if it were true, that isn’t “weaponizing”. You’re trying to sensationalize what was said.
Yep exactly, it’s sad that in todays age, politics gets brought up in everything, especially in America. We are split down the middle where one side believes in one thing and the other side believes in something totally opposite. We fight more amongst ourselves than with any other country. How did we get here, what sculpted our minds to think the way we think? We don’t even try to understand or educate ourselves to understand each others POV, just call each other immature names. Hell, the biggest problem we got right now is determining if Jason Aldean’s song “try that in a small town” is racist or not, patriotic or not! It’s really ridiculous on both sides!
Ok, sorry, went down a rabbit hole, I’ll get off my soapbox now.
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