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IMO that is exactly why America is where it is today and facing the problems we are. People hear one thing they dont like so then they disagree with everything that person has to say.
Inability to be an adult
For that to happen Deegan would need to be more consistent. Red Bud was the first round where he was on the podium for two motos.
I agree with the comparisons I wasn't brave enough to post them, he's like a combination of both, RV was gnarly with steering with the rear.
He is aggro. Fun to watch.
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Super Gutsy charge from 8th to the checkered flag by Hunter Lawrence. That first moto made me think about this thread and how quickly some thought he was finished. Amazing how things can change in 2 weeks, since Hunters crash
So with that analogy, at 62 I'm near the fastest on this forum, much faster than Deegan.
You missed his point. Its called experience, vialle 2 time world champ should be top 3 every weekend. also, hunter was a title favorite coming in and he should be .
This. You can't say anything with nuance anywhere anymore. It's a society of conditioned cluster B splitting (ppl are either all good or all bad) Rather than ppl upvoting bc there's one thing they agree with or respect, they downvote if there's any one thing that doesn't fit their narrative, even if couched in a sea of positive.
The ol' one-drop rule
Danger Deegan has a lot of polishing to do on his style and racecraft before he'll be champion material IMO.
Semantics, lol.
I feel like a lot of ppl expect him to just win like jett lawrence did. But b4 jett the last person to win everything expected of them was RV.
I kinda see more Austin forkner in deegan.
Fast, wild and kinda cocky.
In forkners rookie mx season he won 1 overall, 2 motos and got about 4 other podiums.
Forkners rookie season went better than Jett's.
Just evidence to show that good results 1 year doesn't automatically make you better the following. Forkner was good in his rookie season built up to a dominant 250 rider then got injured an been up and down since. Ac started hot then took about 5 years to win a title.
Even some1 like Jo. He was impressive last season and most ppl expected him to be right there with Hunter. Until last week he wasn't a title contender.
Hunter and Haiden should be on 450s . Bradshaw was, it is appropriate....
Looks like the red plate was an anchor today....
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Yup heavy is the head that wears the crown. Different kind of pressure now. Lesson? Much easier to chase than to fend off all that are chasing you. He'll learn-fast as balls this Deegan kid.
I would think Hunter would prefer to be on a 450 already.
Deegan is young and ready to learn, on a 250. Btw, when has he ever acted cocky? Confident yes, cocky, I haven't seen that.
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I’ve never understood that way of thinking. If you are serious about winning a championship when would you ever want to be in second place?
Change his style? He just needs more raw speed. Jeff Stanton didn't need to change his style lol. Lots of guys have won championships without riding like Jett or Ron Lechien.
I'm a big advocate for Deegan and to me it's clear that he has the highest ceiling of anyone in the current 250 field. But he's 2 years away from being years away in terms of being effective in the 450 class. I suspect by age 20 he'll have moved up, have a tricky first season, then start flowing from then on.
He's not showing the top end speed of several of the other riders. He can't move forward now that his competition has settled.
Third or 4th now will be a reasonable expectation in the championship.
I said ceiling, its prospective. Top end speed atm there's probably 4 guys who have his number in the field.
Think about how much energy Deegan waste riding around on the rev limiter, being overly agressive on the bike etc.
Then you compare him to Jett, Hunter, Sexton, AC. All the top guys are at the same level of fitness now days, so if one rider waste half his energy on riding stupid, how do you think that he is gonna beat the ones who ride smarter?.
If Deegan don’t clean up his riding, he will just be another Barcia, riding around on his 450 reving like a amateur at the practice track while the other riders compete for wins..
Barcia's riding style doesn't keep him from winning more races. He doesn't win more because he just doesn't have the speed/talent as someone like Jett or Tomac. It's not a knock on him. There's always someone better.
Deegan does ride aggressively, but I don't see that he's wasting energy or being overly aggressive. If that were true it would show up in lap times at the end of races and he'd be crashing a lot, and that's not the case. There's always been smooth flowy riders and more bulldog type riders. Would RC have won more if only he changed his style and rode more like Windham? Of course not.
Deegan is fine. He'll pick up a bit more speed over the next couple years like most rookies do and he will always have basically the same riding style he has now. Look at Jett's qualifying times in 2020. He was 2-4 seconds off the top at every race. Hunter further back.
And that's bad?
If deegan finishes season a top 5 its a success , he will be a contender for years to come, how many years older are the guys beating him? Experience at the pro level def. Helps
When RC won, he was far better trained than rest of the guys, and that made him get away with his riding style.
now all the top 10 guys are on simular programs with simular fitness so the riding becomes the factor.
ride twice as smart, not twice as hard..
They gotta stop making those things out tungsten
Couple of things. First the guy that says Bam Bam would win more races if his style didn't suck his energy, lol. He is probably the fittest rider out there and almost never fades.
Second don't say riding styles don't change. Look no further than Jettson to blow your fantasy into the weeds.
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