Chad Reed discusses WSX

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6/24/2023 8:46pm Edited Date/Time 6/24/2023 8:54pm

It sounds like Chad is further down the pecking order and doesn’t actually realize all that’s going on with it.
 

The problem with some of these locations is that people just don’t go out much. For anything

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You know what they say about starting a new business, it takes at least 5 years before your start seeing a return or progress. As much...

You know what they say about starting a new business, it takes at least 5 years before your start seeing a return or progress. As much as I love the American nationals and Supercross, I could sacrifice both of those series and share with the world, as long as both become one series(SXGP and MXGP) and America gets at least 4 rounds each. This would definitely resolve who’s the best in the world. lol. I know, I’m dreaming and wishful thinking. 

This is the worst idea I've ever heard.

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No matter what you say, nothing can change my mind. Without the WSX starting up the AMA would not have knee jerked and started there own...

No matter what you say, nothing can change my mind.

Without the WSX starting up the AMA would not have knee jerked and started there own super duper series.

If, and when the WSX fails. Let's see how long the AMA super duper series continues. They will use reasons of rider fatigue, or lack of sponsorship, or some crap, and it will be gone. Then there will be nothing.

The WSX gives fans outside the USA to see great riders racing. This builds fan intrest, which passes onto the real AMA sx season.

"Fans outside the USA"... as said above, you guys forget there is likely as large a fan base Internationally as there is in National USA....

We are (mostly) all gagging for WSX.

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6/25/2023 12:27pm

i think Chad is out of touch with how popular the MX nationals are with the industry, as the people that go buy bikes, gear and consumables, and thats where the big budgets come from 

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" Everybody wants to race WSX "

Ahemmmm... hemmmm Maybe Chad knows something we don't? Hemmmmm....

Ok, maybe our talents are scarred to speak up... we could use some moto journalism to get the secret inside scoop about how the top dudes really feel about it, if they could do it, would they?

 

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hypothetically.. if what Reeds saying "is" true.. where does that stand? emotions aside. We wake up tomorrow and If all of a sudden the top 10 riders except Chase & Jett, all decide they are going to WSX.. then what? how does the media and vital react?

Im in no way saying this is even close to happening or would even happen for that matter.. but would like to know what peoples thoughts are if it actually was successful and started thriving?

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You know what they say about starting a new business, it takes at least 5 years before your start seeing a return or progress. As much...

You know what they say about starting a new business, it takes at least 5 years before your start seeing a return or progress. As much as I love the American nationals and Supercross, I could sacrifice both of those series and share with the world, as long as both become one series(SXGP and MXGP) and America gets at least 4 rounds each. This would definitely resolve who’s the best in the world. lol. I know, I’m dreaming and wishful thinking. 

Muzzle wrote:

This is the worst idea I've ever heard.

Why? Takes the time to post worst idea ever, with nothing to back up why it’s the worst idea. Gotta love ignorant statements. Smh 

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" Everybody wants to race WSX " Ahemmmm... hemmmm Maybe Chad knows something we don't? Hemmmmm.... Ok, maybe our talents are scarred to speak up... we...

" Everybody wants to race WSX "

Ahemmmm... hemmmm Maybe Chad knows something we don't? Hemmmmm....

Ok, maybe our talents are scarred to speak up... we could use some moto journalism to get the secret inside scoop about how the top dudes really feel about it, if they could do it, would they?

 

There’s no real moto journalism here in the states, at least no moto investigative journalism because basically they don’t want to bite the hand that feeds them. Same goes with the riders.

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yz133rider wrote:

I’ve always really liked Chad, but that interview was horrendous. He was basically a douche the entire time.

He raced like one as well…

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6/25/2023 8:29pm Edited Date/Time 6/25/2023 8:30pm

All through the Carmichael Stewart Reed days it always baffled me how people liked Chad. Mr wanna be McGrath was always a cocky, arrogant crybaby. 

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CDA331 wrote:

All through the Carmichael Stewart Reed days it always baffled me how people liked Chad. Mr wanna be McGrath was always a cocky, arrogant crybaby. 

Are you still baffled or have you worked it out?

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hypothetically.. if what Reeds saying "is" true.. where does that stand? emotions aside. We wake up tomorrow and If all of a sudden the top 10...

hypothetically.. if what Reeds saying "is" true.. where does that stand? emotions aside. We wake up tomorrow and If all of a sudden the top 10 riders except Chase & Jett, all decide they are going to WSX.. then what? how does the media and vital react?

Im in no way saying this is even close to happening or would even happen for that matter.. but would like to know what peoples thoughts are if it actually was successful and started thriving?

I would not watch it.   Period.

The nationals die, I'm out. 

Electric bikes take over, I'm out. 

 

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Magoofan wrote:

I would not watch it.   Period.

The nationals die, I'm out. 

Electric bikes take over, I'm out. 

 

You could just leave now and save us all the trouble?

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Its 12:48 AM and Chad Reed is still a tool. 

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WSX has done nothing but split the talent up in our already very small sport. Hopefully it fails after this year, we never hear about it...

WSX has done nothing but split the talent up in our already very small sport. Hopefully it fails after this year, we never hear about it again, and our riders come back to racing outdoors.

And get paid little to nothing to do it?  Why would they do that?

Money talks; you really think the likes of Webb and a few others that jumped into the 450 class are riding the nationals for fun?  With SMX there’s finally some money to be made and riders are doing what’s required to be part of it.

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6/26/2023 4:58am
yz133rider wrote:

I’ve always really liked Chad, but that interview was horrendous. He was basically a douche the entire time.

He sounds arrogant because he is 😂 the nationals are the core and people who keep this sport going. No product sold, no sponsorship, no racing. After 17 rds of sx. I am ready for nationals. I honestly think 17 is too many. No desire to watch wsx. 

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CDA331 wrote:

All through the Carmichael Stewart Reed days it always baffled me how people liked Chad. Mr wanna be McGrath was always a cocky, arrogant crybaby. 

And Ricky wasn't very cocky and petty when things didn't go his way?? Hell, James was no better either. I'm no Reed fan for sure but to be at the level those three were at and the pompous attitudes they all had in that period made all of them young pricks to be around.   

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WSX has done nothing but split the talent up in our already very small sport. Hopefully it fails after this year, we never hear about it...

WSX has done nothing but split the talent up in our already very small sport. Hopefully it fails after this year, we never hear about it again, and our riders come back to racing outdoors.

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And get paid little to nothing to do it?  Why would they do that? Money talks; you really think the likes of Webb and a few...

And get paid little to nothing to do it?  Why would they do that?

Money talks; you really think the likes of Webb and a few others that jumped into the 450 class are riding the nationals for fun?  With SMX there’s finally some money to be made and riders are doing what’s required to be part of it.

Yep, IMO Webb, AP, and most of the other guys are only racing the nationals to earn points for the SMX. Why do we have SMX? Because of the WSX influence.

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6/26/2023 9:30am

Never liked Chad growing up and still don’t. He’s always arrogant in damn near every interview. He was always complaining about something. Sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder about something. 

It seems he doesn’t even know what his job is. Maybe just a name to use for the promotion of WSX.

I’m more curious about what venues these races will be in. What dirt they will find and who is building the tracks. US SX has a good system and it’s refined. Will we see these guys racing on some janky tracks every so often?

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Never liked Chad growing up and still don’t. He’s always arrogant in damn near every interview. He was always complaining about something. Sounds like he has...

Never liked Chad growing up and still don’t. He’s always arrogant in damn near every interview. He was always complaining about something. Sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder about something. 

It seems he doesn’t even know what his job is. Maybe just a name to use for the promotion of WSX.

I’m more curious about what venues these races will be in. What dirt they will find and who is building the tracks. US SX has a good system and it’s refined. Will we see these guys racing on some janky tracks every so often?

The venues are world class and they have a great track builder. Jason Baker of Dream Traxx.

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Chad came off like a douche when he tried to spin the question about "US Manufacturers"....he damn well knew what Matthes meant he just couldn't admit it cause that would mean admitting that WSX is just a side show for 10th-20th place guys to race.

WSX will NEVER have the premier SX racers in the world racing it full time.  Stamp that shit.

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Here's a crazy idea..... take that $5.5 million or whatever the number is that keeps getting thrown out there for SMX..... and just add it to the purse for outdoors and put an end to both SMX and WSX. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just fund the two series like the premiere series everyone wants to believe they are. 

If you got rid of a few rounds of supercross and these guys had 24-28 race weekends between New years and labor day that all paid well and left them a 4 month off-season, everyone would be plenty happy and not looking for greener pastures. That'd give them about 1 weekend off out of every 4 weeks. 

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6/26/2023 10:31am Edited Date/Time 6/26/2023 10:32am
No matter what you say, nothing can change my mind. Without the WSX starting up the AMA would not have knee jerked and started there own...

No matter what you say, nothing can change my mind.

Without the WSX starting up the AMA would not have knee jerked and started there own super duper series.

If, and when the WSX fails. Let's see how long the AMA super duper series continues. They will use reasons of rider fatigue, or lack of sponsorship, or some crap, and it will be gone. Then there will be nothing.

The WSX gives fans outside the USA to see great riders racing. This builds fan intrest, which passes onto the real AMA sx season.

The first domino to drop in planning the SMX partnership was Feld dropping the FIM. Obviously that happened before FIM put the "supercross world championship" title out for bid. The deal with NBC was done before Mubadala Capital had ever even heard of the sport of supercross.

As far as fans outside of the US getting to see great racing, didn't you already have that in Australia? Your Australian supercross series historically attracted a lot of talent from the US, most of the same kind of riders that are now doing WSX. I'm surprised the Australians here seem to be the biggest supporters of this WSX thing when they basically fleeced your home series of talent.

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truck wrote:
Here's a crazy idea..... take that $5.5 million or whatever the number is that keeps getting thrown out there for SMX..... and just add it to...

Here's a crazy idea..... take that $5.5 million or whatever the number is that keeps getting thrown out there for SMX..... and just add it to the purse for outdoors and put an end to both SMX and WSX. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just fund the two series like the premiere series everyone wants to believe they are. 

If you got rid of a few rounds of supercross and these guys had 24-28 race weekends between New years and labor day that all paid well and left them a 4 month off-season, everyone would be plenty happy and not looking for greener pastures. That'd give them about 1 weekend off out of every 4 weeks. 

That would of been the better idea instead of the panicking and thinking up smx 

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When was the last time Chad competed in the Outdoor Nationals? 2015? 

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The prize money being put up for SMX, and the extra bones being thrown to Outdoors riders presumably comes from NBC.

They will want to see a return on their investment, and probably not in 5 years time either.

Outdoors essentially has to pay them back. The compelling goodness of the MX product is expected to generate advertising revenue during the broadcasts, subscriptions and on-sells to secondary networks.

I'm not sure that this is a given. Wasn't one of the rumours last year with the Lucas Oil (remember them?) and MAV TV experiment, that things were so close to a crisis that MAV were being paid to show the races?

 

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Goldmember wrote:
The prize money being put up for SMX, and the extra bones being thrown to Outdoors riders presumably comes from NBC. They will want to see...

The prize money being put up for SMX, and the extra bones being thrown to Outdoors riders presumably comes from NBC.

They will want to see a return on their investment, and probably not in 5 years time either.

Outdoors essentially has to pay them back. The compelling goodness of the MX product is expected to generate advertising revenue during the broadcasts, subscriptions and on-sells to secondary networks.

I'm not sure that this is a given. Wasn't one of the rumours last year with the Lucas Oil (remember them?) and MAV TV experiment, that things were so close to a crisis that MAV were being paid to show the races?

 

I'm sure you know this because you know everything but the MAVTV "experiment" was and always was a one year placeholder to get SX and US nationals media rights on the same schedule, so they could do the deal with NBC and create SMX.

I'm sure that you also know NBC did not "invest" in SMX, they agreed to a 5 year media rights deal. If they find it to be a losing property they can drop it or renegotiate, in 5 years.

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Goldmember wrote:
The prize money being put up for SMX, and the extra bones being thrown to Outdoors riders presumably comes from NBC. They will want to see...

The prize money being put up for SMX, and the extra bones being thrown to Outdoors riders presumably comes from NBC.

They will want to see a return on their investment, and probably not in 5 years time either.

Outdoors essentially has to pay them back. The compelling goodness of the MX product is expected to generate advertising revenue during the broadcasts, subscriptions and on-sells to secondary networks.

I'm not sure that this is a given. Wasn't one of the rumours last year with the Lucas Oil (remember them?) and MAV TV experiment, that things were so close to a crisis that MAV were being paid to show the races?

 

GrapeApe wrote:
I'm sure you know this because you know everything but the MAVTV "experiment" was and always was a one year placeholder to get SX and US...

I'm sure you know this because you know everything but the MAVTV "experiment" was and always was a one year placeholder to get SX and US nationals media rights on the same schedule, so they could do the deal with NBC and create SMX.

I'm sure that you also know NBC did not "invest" in SMX, they agreed to a 5 year media rights deal. If they find it to be a losing property they can drop it or renegotiate, in 5 years.

I wonder what the viewing figures are like this year ? 

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truck wrote:
Here's a crazy idea..... take that $5.5 million or whatever the number is that keeps getting thrown out there for SMX..... and just add it to...

Here's a crazy idea..... take that $5.5 million or whatever the number is that keeps getting thrown out there for SMX..... and just add it to the purse for outdoors and put an end to both SMX and WSX. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just fund the two series like the premiere series everyone wants to believe they are. 

If you got rid of a few rounds of supercross and these guys had 24-28 race weekends between New years and labor day that all paid well and left them a 4 month off-season, everyone would be plenty happy and not looking for greener pastures. That'd give them about 1 weekend off out of every 4 weeks. 

I remember in earlier interviews that the "playoff" style format was requested in return for the extra money they received for the TV package. No playoffs no 5 mill in theory. 

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GrapeApe wrote:
I'm sure you know this because you know everything but the MAVTV "experiment" was and always was a one year placeholder to get SX and US...

I'm sure you know this because you know everything but the MAVTV "experiment" was and always was a one year placeholder to get SX and US nationals media rights on the same schedule, so they could do the deal with NBC and create SMX.

I'm sure that you also know NBC did not "invest" in SMX, they agreed to a 5 year media rights deal. If they find it to be a losing property they can drop it or renegotiate, in 5 years.

Are you saying the 2022 MAV-TV debacle was a strategically planned operation and the SMX appendix was not a MX establishment panic response to a much better funded competitor?

 

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