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They have the capacity to make 10 per day..... that's not even saying they are making that many.... and even if they are..... might as well just throw in the towel if that's where you're at this far in. Sad.
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The image looking fake, is the best reason to believe it is not fake. I can make perfectly photoshopped images that not many if any people could tell was a fake. If Stark was trying to use fake images I think they could afford at least 2 people with my skills to fake them.
Ok, so a press release that says they have 15 bikes ready to ship is what you are looking for. Where have you looked for this ? I can remember seeing a statement put out by Stark that was on multiple websites claiming that the first shipments of bikes were going out. The smoke and mirrors statement , to me, implies that you are saying that the company is an illusion , like a magic show.
They posted photos of bikes, people say they do not believe they are not ready to ship bikes since they would be in crates. If they posted a photo of a stack of 20 crates people would say they were empty. What is so hard to understand that they are not able to produce the bikes at speed yet? And they themselves are unhappy with how many they are able to deliver right now? Like another poster has said, people with money on them that have ETA's coming up soon are ALSO not posting on here in large numbers either.I already said that I am addressing the other comments that people have made stating the photos were faked, and again perhaps using " Smoke and Mirrors " was what made me believe you were one of those people. Perhaps there have only been 5 bikes delivered or 25 , or 2. The lack of a specific number put on delivered bikes , juts makes me think that there have not been many delivered.
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You can make perfectly photoshopped images than not many people could tell were fake?
Your interest in fakery and deceiving people fits in with your obsession about validating the dubious Stark concern.
Could be, but they have said that they have had issues getting the assembly line up to speed and have been trying to stop pre orders. If you never plan on delivering something , why not just keep letting the orders rack up? If you are using those pre orders for proof of demand to bring money in. Perhaps they do want investors , that alone is not a bad or uncommon thing. Maybe they do need funding. But KTM and other big brands are ALSO having issues with certain bikes or parts.
The point was that I could , meaning that if a person with a below average ability could do it,many,many others could also do it. The point being that a photo that looks fake to the average person is most likely NOT fake since it is not difficult to make a fake that looks real if you have the time and motivation.
Like I'm sure you know that many bad things could be done with the tools you use to build a house .
And in my opinion if a company was going to put out an image that was fake, that they knew would be looked at as closely as the Stark images have been, that they would hire somebody to make sure it was not easy to point out.
Who knows about Spanish corporate law, but I'm pretty sure that under EU wide regulation, taking, or soliciting orders you cannot fill, or trading while insolvent is a big no no. Part of my scepticism about Stark stems from finding that the $100 down thing was an expression of interest, that put you on a list, and once on that, Stark, at their discretion would contact you offering a contract to purchase a motorcycle. So no real company obligations to deliver, as we are seeing.
Apart from the very rare cases where the majors offer options to buy limited race homologation specials, and the like, no other makers are doing this.
I mean when does avid salesmanship turn into over promising, that becomes palpable nonsense, then bullshit, lies, and possibly fraudulent behaviour?
When do you stop caring so much? Holy shit....you've probably got a 100 hours invested into naysaying the Stark.
We get it, you don't like it. Move along.
Conversely, why are you so intent on playing the man, crying and whining, and shutting down interest in validating a motorcycle touted as no less that the greatest MX bike ever?
New term for vital: Varguing...
Lol.
You got me, I concede.
Continue your rants, I'm sure you'll change a bunch of folks minds.
I think I get it now.. Goldmember is so jealous of Bryan being invited to Spain and been given the first Varg that he thinks:
If I‘m the most annoying and whining critic of Stark, Anton surely will hand me an invitation to Spain to prove me wrong!
Or could there possibly be any other reason to repeat the same dumb three lines day in and day out??
The Circus was called "the greatest show on earth" but it was just ok, maybe I will be like Goldmember and spend all my time on the internet pissing on the people who liked the circus.
what a dick.
I'm still looking for people to join my class action lawsuit against Kawasaki for not making us all champions.
Also putting feelers out for any ne'er-do-wells found riding a Honda to combat "you meet the nicest people on a Honda"
Has anyone tapped their Yamaha to check if it has a discernable tone? False advertisement if it isn't an F#.
Brian, I appreciate all your content as have an order I’m expecting in August. Please don’t let the naysayers deter you.
They still do outsource a lot more than I thought they would. Maybe not for every bike they make, some more than others. And really the more I think about it . Bicycle makers pretty much only make the frames. And only the lower end models are spec'd with all house branded items. I still would not call them a Kit bike anymore than any of the other brands.
When You built those houses , did You do everything Yourself or did You buy appliances , and HVAC ,etc Did you really build a house ? Or did You just assemble a kit house. I would still say You built it , but I really don't care if Stark is not making every single item themselves.
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Houses? I don't build houses.
I'd suggest Wass doesn't make a hard part anything.
I must be confusing you with another Varg hater. I thought you were the person that was talking about building houses and killing snakes.
How do you feel about Fantic ? Works Connection? KTM ? Are they bad because they do not machine and mold everything themselves ? Maybe calling it a Kit bike was not an insult and the other comments you made just fogged my judgement. I think its normal to have some level of doubt about something. But so many of the reasons You put out for your doubt just seem to be biased like You claim the people who say positive things about Vargs are. If You really want to change peoples minds on the Varg being so biased against it is only going to hurt your argument . Constantly changing the reasons the Varg is bad , and repeating the same things that are obvious issues with electric , or myths . Its almost like You do not really hate the Varg or Anton.
You're thinking of Sandusky:
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He is hell bent on being right. Being right to a bunch of people he doesn’t know on a message board at that. Whats his reward? He can say “see I was right” and win absolutely nothing. However, if we can get his address I will personally send him the gold star sticker he seeks.
wasn't there just a discussion on this?
4 dead after fire in e-bike shop spreads to apartments in NY - syracuse.com
Thank You. I need to get more in the habit of looking to see who made a post. I guess I have been paying more attention to what the posts say, and not who is saying it.
In the past I've seen them say that the fires have been linked to people using the wrong chargers and swapping batteries around , etc. Lithium batteries are very sensitive to voltage and all of the lithium batteries I've ever worked with have a way for the charger to communicate with each cell to make sure they are all balanced and only get the amount of power they need. Some chargers will have seperate connections to balance the battery, others are built into the main connection .If you use a charger that does not have the correct way to balance the charging You can have issues.
Batteries will also have C rates, that determine how quickly they can be charged and discharged. Putting a battery with a lower discharge rate than is specced into a scooter would overwork the battery and could damage it. And the same thing with a charger. It could put out more power than the battery can safely take. They are often cheap scooters used for deliveries , they will often get the cheapest batteries and fastest chargers.
Other than using lithium in the batteries , the construction of the batteries , the Cell quality and many of the conditions that caused those fires would not be as likely to happen with a Varg. Just starting off with higher quality and certain types of cells will make it safer. The Varg battery is more different than it is the same.
Like gasoline or any energy source there is always a risk of fire. People do not store gas powered vehicles in the same way they may store an EV. Since you do not have any fumes ,You can forget that they also can be a fire hazard. A loose connection can cause a fire, just like a leaking fuel line. An overheated battery , or damaged cells. I really think that the problem is not that lithium is dangerous, its that people do not treat the batteries with the same respect they treat gasoline with respects to being a potential fire cause or fuel for a fire that starts.
If You keep an eye on the batteries, make sure to replace any damaged wires or connectors and store them in an area like you would with a Gas vehicle they can be safer than Gas. I do not think it's really fair to group these fires in with the Varg or really any lithium battery system that has its own specific charger and built in battery . The shop the fire started in has been fined in the past for violations including, battery charging, the number of batteries at the site and the electrical system. It seems like it might be as much or more a problem of people not handling them correctly . And not just what they are made with.
He says his address is in Tel Aviv...
but his address is...
If he is using a VPN that would let him spoof his IP address right? Assuming that's how You were looking for him.
He has admitted his location on other sites.
Funny he would do something that would be misleading........... Is it an honest mistake? Or is he trying to run a pyramid scam? Going off of the logic he uses in some of his posts You never know.
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