Holy Crap I just realized something about this years SX Season.

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Outsider 11/19/2009 1:36pm
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ando wrote:
Well, in the last five years there are exactly four people who have won mains apart from the big three - Windham (5), Millsaps (2), Hansen...
Well, in the last five years there are exactly four people who have won mains apart from the big three - Windham (5), Millsaps (2), Hansen (2) and Villo (2).
The difference would be that Villo won 2 out 3 against James and Chad in his rookie year... But, of course there are those that would say "it didn't count because...."

JMO, but seems like out of the guys you mentioned, only one actually believes he can race with the top dogs.

We shall see, hope everyone stays healthy!
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oldx 11/19/2009 1:40pm
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GuyB wrote:
Yep, Grant, Hill, Brayton are missing. No M. Alessi for SX...and I'm not sure which class Hansen will be in. Just sayin'...
Didn't Brayton just get beat by old Jeremy down under.Just saying....
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FreshTopEnd 11/19/2009 1:41pm
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Kudos to him for the wins, Ando, but I'm not ready to equate Hanson winning the Xgames race with and SX main win.
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kevin204 11/19/2009 1:53pm
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Langston will be near the top. Mark it down.

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Cook441 11/19/2009 2:06pm
11/19/2009 2:06pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 7:02pm
I think your tiers are being viewed as speed but when it's stacked speed plays less and less a role...You should stack your categories based on consistency.

I hope 250(f)'s can switch coasts to big bikes for exposure this year and I hope Pourcel takes that as opportunity to sell himself to the big bike manufacturers/Teams as worthy of whatever ridiculous price he was asking for. I assume thats why he's still riding a 250f again this year. (Keeping true to the thread) - If he rides a 450 I say put him in whichever top tier your talking about-
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ando 11/19/2009 2:07pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Kudos to him for the wins, Ando, but I'm not ready to equate Hanson winning the Xgames race with and SX main win.
Sorry, got me facts wrong. Josh Grant won A1 this year, Josh Hill won a main last year.

Not sure where I got Hansen confused into the mix...

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mccread 11/19/2009 2:20pm
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GuyB wrote:
Yep, Grant, Hill, Brayton are missing. No M. Alessi for SX...and I'm not sure which class Hansen will be in. Just sayin'...
oldx wrote:
Didn't Brayton just get beat by old Jeremy down under.Just saying....
no...... Brayton won Bercy...
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jbomx363 11/19/2009 2:27pm
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kevin204 wrote:
Langston will be near the top. Mark it down.
Not in SX, mark that down. Hopefully he isn't on the sidelines before the Nat's start.

Funny seeing some predictions, especially Hansen.
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twizzler 11/19/2009 2:28pm
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Josh Grant wouldn't be a title contender if it was a 2 race series. He's too inconsistent!
sbarrington314 11/19/2009 2:40pm
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doesnt someone say this about every year?
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peelout719 11/19/2009 2:48pm
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sbarrington314 wrote:
doesnt someone say this about every year?
this, and that stewart is going to go undefeated.

i wouldn't set my watch to it Smile
tcannon521 11/19/2009 2:52pm
11/19/2009 2:52pm
ando wrote:
Well, in the last five years there are exactly four people who have won mains apart from the big three - Windham (5), Millsaps (2), Hansen...
Well, in the last five years there are exactly four people who have won mains apart from the big three - Windham (5), Millsaps (2), Hansen (2) and Villo (2).
Outsider wrote:
The difference would be that Villo won 2 out 3 against James and Chad in his rookie year... But, of course there are those that would...
The difference would be that Villo won 2 out 3 against James and Chad in his rookie year... But, of course there are those that would say "it didn't count because...."

JMO, but seems like out of the guys you mentioned, only one actually believes he can race with the top dogs.

We shall see, hope everyone stays healthy!
RV2 has the potential. The problem is his rookie year came after 3 years of prep.

Take someone like Reed or JS they were winning against RC in their rookie year.

You could go one step farther and say Reed was winning in the US after one lites year and very little SX experience.

JS did stay down in the lites 3 years just like RV the difference is RV wasn't on pace with them whether it was skill or medical I don't know.
tcannon521 11/19/2009 2:53pm
11/19/2009 2:53pm
sbarrington314 wrote:
doesnt someone say this about every year?
peelout719 wrote:
this, and that stewart is going to go undefeated.

i wouldn't set my watch to it Smile
Don't worry R-acer has already claimed it!!!
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Outsider 11/19/2009 3:04pm
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tcannon521 wrote:
RV2 has the potential. The problem is his rookie year came after 3 years of prep. Take someone like Reed or JS they were winning against...
RV2 has the potential. The problem is his rookie year came after 3 years of prep.

Take someone like Reed or JS they were winning against RC in their rookie year.

You could go one step farther and say Reed was winning in the US after one lites year and very little SX experience.

JS did stay down in the lites 3 years just like RV the difference is RV wasn't on pace with them whether it was skill or medical I don't know.
I personally think JS7 has more raw speed and talent than anyone.

I think Chad has more natural talent than RV too... but, I think RV makes up for (most of) that with drive.

I hate the comparison, but it seems like RV is more "RC-like" than anyone else at this time.. sorry, had to say it... flame on.
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MX479Guy 11/19/2009 3:11pm
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So what about Ezra Lusk?

He racing SX this year or what?
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TeamGreen 11/19/2009 3:23pm
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ando wrote:
Well, in the last five years there are exactly four people who have won mains apart from the big three - Windham (5), Millsaps (2), Hansen...
Well, in the last five years there are exactly four people who have won mains apart from the big three - Windham (5), Millsaps (2), Hansen (2) and Villo (2).
Outsider wrote:
The difference would be that Villo won 2 out 3 against James and Chad in his rookie year... But, of course there are those that would...
The difference would be that Villo won 2 out 3 against James and Chad in his rookie year... But, of course there are those that would say "it didn't count because...."

JMO, but seems like out of the guys you mentioned, only one actually believes he can race with the top dogs.

We shall see, hope everyone stays healthy!
Uh...yeah...

Hello, is this thing on?

Check one, two...

"Josh Hill" ring a bell?

Hello? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
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ando 11/19/2009 3:28pm
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ando wrote:
Well, in the last five years there are exactly four people who have won mains apart from the big three - Windham (5), Millsaps (2), Hansen...
Well, in the last five years there are exactly four people who have won mains apart from the big three - Windham (5), Millsaps (2), Hansen (2) and Villo (2).
Outsider wrote:
The difference would be that Villo won 2 out 3 against James and Chad in his rookie year... But, of course there are those that would...
The difference would be that Villo won 2 out 3 against James and Chad in his rookie year... But, of course there are those that would say "it didn't count because...."

JMO, but seems like out of the guys you mentioned, only one actually believes he can race with the top dogs.

We shall see, hope everyone stays healthy!
tcannon521 wrote:
RV2 has the potential. The problem is his rookie year came after 3 years of prep. Take someone like Reed or JS they were winning against...
RV2 has the potential. The problem is his rookie year came after 3 years of prep.

Take someone like Reed or JS they were winning against RC in their rookie year.

You could go one step farther and say Reed was winning in the US after one lites year and very little SX experience.

JS did stay down in the lites 3 years just like RV the difference is RV wasn't on pace with them whether it was skill or medical I don't know.
Reed didn't exactly come to the US with no SX experience. He won 2 x Australian SX titles on the 250 2stroke before his year in Europe prior to coming to the US. Also he graduated straight to the 250 when he turned pro and never raced a 125 as a pro in Australia (I think, maybe a few races but definitely not a full season).

Obviously RV has the potential, but to knock Reed and/or Stewart off the championship podium he will have to be something special. Not saying he can't, but it's too early to tell.

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BobbyM 11/19/2009 3:46pm
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PD441 wrote:
Mike Alessi is outdoors only.
Oops...just notice GuyB mentioned that.

Grant and Brayton definitely need in that mix.
that's nucking futs imho
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BobbyM 11/19/2009 3:48pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Kudos to him for the wins, Ando, but I'm not ready to equate Hanson winning the Xgames race with and SX main win.
i say if hansen can win one, and he might be able to, we set up a ride day for josh with gman. least us hypocrites can do for gary..er josh. Wink
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Hanny's head is on straight and he's going to kick ass.
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who sez?
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TOWBAR 11/19/2009 6:08pm
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Matt Moss will be one to watch im not saying he will come out winning in his rookie year but that guy has awesome skills.
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Matt Moss will be one to watch im not saying he will come out winning in his rookie year but that guy has awesome skills.
matt to podium a round 4 sure ....as will jake.

tier 1 = JS and Reedy...hopefully RV...dungey i don't think so......Sad

Hansen is the "wild card" of the century.......who da fugg knows ??

At least there will be more depth in 2010, until the inevitable injury list mounts...
TheWeapon 11/19/2009 6:48pm
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straight^ wrote:
James Stewart Ryan Villopoto Josh Grant Chad Reed Ryan Dungey Josh Hill Ivan Tedesco Justin Brayton Dan Reardon Chris Blose - won't make mains Davi Millsaps...
James Stewart
Ryan Villopoto
Josh Grant
Chad Reed
Ryan Dungey
Josh Hill
Ivan Tedesco
Justin Brayton
Dan Reardon
Chris Blose - won't make mains
Davi Millsaps
Andrew Short
Tommy Hahn
Michael Byrne
Nic Wey
Josh Hansen
Matt Moss - won't make mains
Jake Moss
Grant Langston
Kevin Windham
Matt Boni
Matt Goerke
J-Law
Sean Hamblin
Kyle Chisholm - won't make mains
Heath Voss
Jason Thomas - won't make mains

...and Hamblin, J-Law, Boni, Goerke, Moss and Voss will take turns occupying the last few gates.

Matt Moss won't make mains?

Care to make a wager on that one genius?

Wink
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flarider 11/19/2009 6:51pm
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Threads like this make me wish the search function on this site worked
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FreshTopEnd 11/19/2009 6:55pm
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Threads like this make me wish every rider would get through the season healthy.
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gsxrcr28 11/19/2009 7:12pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Threads like this make me wish every rider would get through the season healthy.
Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JOHN CHOATE 11/19/2009 7:15pm
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
Threads like this make me wish every rider would get through the season healthy.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!
x 2 or should that be x 3??
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loftyair 11/19/2009 7:34pm
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Hanson will be very lucky if he sees a podium at all. The only way would be if he holeshots, the 10 faster guys all pile up, and there's 45 second lap times. Oh yeah, it's SX, all the mains will be under 15min, what a joke.

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