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Not agreeing with the fact that he gets hurt while leading, but didn’t he crash out of the lead in Trentino not that long ago? Hand came off over the finish line if I recall correctly
Nope. Wasn't leading at any stage of that race. Actually crashed twice in the same place during that moto (with no injuries) but at no point was he leading
Being fast wins you races, see Herlings. Being Healthy wins you titles see AC.
Herlings rubs tons of people the wrong way. Perhaps personally he’s different. Plenty of guys on the USA KTM team said he was pretty easy to work with and respectful but his public persona for well over a decade was one of absolute arrogance and because he is fast on a dirt bike we are supposed to act like all is forgiven. Hopefully he recovers quick and does not retire. Weather you like him or not it would be a shame to see him walk away after this.
He's earned the right to be arrogant by being that good at riding a dirt bike
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I stand corrected. Thanks for clarifying
He was talking sarcastically that the positive thing was that he was back home on time, and that he could still walk. Plus his grass was burned a bit. Not sure how long he will be out but i think he is already bored
I agree with you on this, but you know just hypothetical if a rider would win 1 world title by winning every race finishing 1st place then next season first race he crashes gets paralyzed and that’s it. That guy was 1 season the best rider of the world. And from my opinion he deserves the same respect like a rider like rc or ac with multiple world titles it’s Mx not soccer
all those guys are risking their lives and I don’t believe rider skill has anything to do with ending careers healthy. All Those guys ride fast and just a few riders give 1% more Then who has the balls to say you are not the best🤭 because you don’t have 11 world titles 😅
All I know is, the MXGP championship is gonna be really boring for a while. Prado can cruise to the title now.
The “most GP wins in history” holds way less weight when you acknowledge that 61 of his 103 wins were in the rookie class, lol.
People bring up this argument all the time like he wouldn't have won a similar amount in the 'premier' class
what? I think its pretty obvious that if you are going to be dominant in the premier class, you would be racing in it, not in the stepping stone class. At this point in his career, he has almost the same amount of MX2 and MXGP seasons, with the majority of his wins in MX2, seems like a pretty safe bet that if he was in the premier class earlier, he wouldnt have 103 wins.
Some of you Euro's conviently forgot his defeats...for example USGP MX2......Webb and Forkner ran him down and past him easily. On a neutral track none of them had rode.
Thats an easy example.
You bring up the one Ironman MX National result and forget the rest. The last U.S. national when few were totally motivated and Tomac had a title to win by riding safe to cruise to the finish. Not to forget Herlings would not have even won without Marvin crashing way out in front with less than a lap to go.
In 2012 Tommy Searle had him beat for the MX2 title, but blew up three engines for -75 points. Searle lost the title by less than a moto.....
He Cherry Picked the MX2 class so bad they to force him to MX1 by rule changes...or he would probably still be riding MX2.
I could go on and on and on.
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Pauly,stfu!!!
Actually it's the AMA vs MXGP for many of us... We defend the AMA from the onslaught of "it's not a world championship" or "it's just a national series". But ironically, it's full of riders from all over the world.
It's the USA vs the Euro's for those that simply hate Americans.
By the way, I'm a huge Simon Laegenfelder and Tim Gajser fan, sucks that both are out.
And yes, now it sucks the Herlings is out too, he and Prado battling for points with JH taking most of the motos (minus the dnf) and Prado taking the qualy races was getting interesting.
But he didn’t. Look, I’m not saying that he wouldn’t have, I just think it’s silly to throw the “most GP wins” stat out there without noting that 60% of them were in the rookie class.
But the truth about this decision actually nobody knows. Was it Jeffrey or was it KTM to add more titles to the mx2 belt nobody knows who decided to stay longer but I think it’s KTM
Funny how every single f'ing Herlings thread ends up being an American vs Euro thing. The guy just broke his neck for the second time in 3 years and I still see a bunch of grown men fighting like kids in endless discussions
Glad he is still able to walk around and hope to see him back soon. The series is more fun without him. Just like the time when previous champs were still racing, where people were shitting on as well. Most of you guys are so focused on useless topic that you can't even enjoy seeing these guys (Tomac, Herlings, RC, JS7, Cairoli, Everts) ride a dirtbike on elite level. Comparison is the thief of joy.
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This argument only seems to be made by Americans that don't pay attention to the series. If you paid attention to the series and his career overtime you would likely come to the realisation that yes, he would've also beaten the riders in the MXGP class for most of the time he was racing in MX2
And I would have won state if coach put me in the game.
Imagine with what we know now, herlings has a broken neck picks up his bike and continues riding, that could not only end his career but his life.. you can see he doesn’t move his head much after that crash pretty damn scary I once drove home with a broken collar bone but a broken neck that’s sick 😱
Nothing left to prove in MXGP. Just come to America now
Why? Might as well stay winning Dutch Masters. A National Championship is a National Championship.
Shocking that the GOATFMOP could throw away another title right? Prado can cruise this one home now, at least MX2 is still wide open
Do the Dutch National Championship list it as a world affair because 6 nationalities outside of Netherlands race it? Seeing a display with Locurcio, Button, Rodriguez and a few other non Anerican this weekend on the Thunder Valley broadcast was comedy!
Exact kind of response I would expect from someone who hasn't paid attention to the GPs
The guy is a crash magnet. I hate to see anyone hurt, although it’s a brutal part of the sport! Hope his diagnosis is positive and there’s not any serious injury.
What, a logical one?
We’d be saying the same thing about Tomac if he had stayed in 250’s and racked up wins here the same way.
Doesn’t matter witch country you’re from the titel will be Dutch national champion it’s not a big agenda but the riders field is strong and again herlings was unbeatable. Nonetheless I think the pro’s rather use it as preparation
I'm merely stating that its a pointless arguement, because we will never know since he decided to stay in MX2. If he would have won the same in MXGP as he did in MX2, that means he would have won in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2016. Seems odd to give up 4 championships, any idea why he did?
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