Is Roczen’s $6M+ WSX contract the biggest single contract in MX?

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64smoker wrote:
There was a interview with herlings out there I think he was on 4-5 million a year  it said ( could be wrong )  he’s definitely...

There was a interview with herlings out there I think he was on 4-5 million a year  it said ( could be wrong )  he’s definitely the highest in mxgp , I would assume that includes bonus’s and everything but again not certain 

kiwifan wrote:

how much is Gajser's contract?

Cortami79 wrote:
Should be around the same. Heard he opted out of a monster contract because his fanclub is so big in Slovenia, so that should be a...

Should be around the same. Heard he opted out of a monster contract because his fanclub is so big in Slovenia, so that should be a good revenue as well

Lewis said on one VitalMX podcast that Honda doesn't want Gajser to have an Energy Drink deal, they want the "full Honda HRC" look for their MXGP team, therefore Honda is paying him an extra in his contract that covers what Monster Energy offered him.

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Rc's Suzuki contract was about 4.5 mill per year. Not sure how many years it was. Jett signed a 4-5 year deal with Honda starting in...

Rc's Suzuki contract was about 4.5 mill per year. Not sure how many years it was.

Jett signed a 4-5 year deal with Honda starting in 2022. U would have to imagine that's more then a mill per season. 

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Thought it was $3M per year for RC from Suzuki but it wasn’t a multi year deal. Could very easily be wrong here, just going off...

Thought it was $3M per year for RC from Suzuki but it wasn’t a multi year deal. Could very easily be wrong here, just going off memory of recent RC interviews. 

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I do know on RC’s Whiskey Throttle episode GL asked him what he made in his best year. It was 2006 and he made 9 Million...

I do know on RC’s Whiskey Throttle episode GL asked him what he made in his best year. It was 2006 and he made 9 Million. That’s everything, but still. 9 million in 2006 would be like 12-13 million today. 

Between RC & James…and during this period thru/up to the contracts that were ending around 2008/2009…they were making bank. 

In 2006, RC was on the Makita Suzuki with Fox, Oakley and whatever that boot he was wearing was called…? …all those wins & championship bonuses back then…could have easily added up. 

KR’s current opportunities…including his Fox & Red Bull deals…give him a chance to earn a really good amount of money in the current era of MX/SX. Everything KR is doing is simply “wise”. 

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aeffertz wrote:
So on one of the recent VitalMX post race shows, ML said he heard the rumors surrounding the 3 year deal for KR to race WSX...

So on one of the recent VitalMX post race shows, ML said he heard the rumors surrounding the 3 year deal for KR to race WSX, paying something along the lines of $1.5M for year one, $2.0M for year two and $2.5M for year 3. 
 

I know in the RC/Stew/Reed days there were some big money contracts but a single contract for that much money seems pretty up there? I’m sure he’s being paid by gear companies and such as well. Any ideas on the high paid contracts in the states or even the GPs for these elite guys?

 

And yes, this is only on my mind because I wish he was racing outdoors instead. Grinning

Rc contract was for something like 10 mill? Over 2 yrs but that was including bonuses etc. I think he was guaranteed something like 1-3 mil each year.

KR's might have the most guaranteed 

smoothies862 6/4/2023 9:43am
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Imagine if RC let people rev his bike back then!$$$$🙃

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INeedaNewUsername 6/4/2023 10:32am
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aeffertz wrote:
You act like you wouldn’t sign the paper to race at 60% and still likely be the champion. Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Absolutely...

You act like you wouldn’t sign the paper to race at 60% and still likely be the champion. Don’t hate the player, hate the game. Absolutely can’t blame Roczen for going this route, even as frustrating as it may be as a fan of motocross. 
 

Definitely feels like a ripcord move by WSX but with Webb now out, I don’t know how it could possibly be a competitive field. We are spoiled here in the US so perhaps there is a profitable model here but it sure doesn’t seem sustainable at the moment. 

INeedaNewUsername wrote:
Maybe you missed the part where I said the money was great. Clearly he never measured up to a premier SX title, so a B league...

Maybe you missed the part where I said the money was great. Clearly he never measured up to a premier SX title, so a B league it is. MONEY IS GREAT! Yes, I think most would do the same. 

aeffertz wrote:

No I didn't miss it. It was just clearly throwing shade at KR and besides the point of the thread. 

It is shade, why wouldn't it be. The truth is what it is. Swingers get whine all they want.

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aeffertz wrote:
Thought it was $3M per year for RC from Suzuki but it wasn’t a multi year deal. Could very easily be wrong here, just going off...

Thought it was $3M per year for RC from Suzuki but it wasn’t a multi year deal. Could very easily be wrong here, just going off memory of recent RC interviews. 

SX_336 wrote:
I do know on RC’s Whiskey Throttle episode GL asked him what he made in his best year. It was 2006 and he made 9 Million...

I do know on RC’s Whiskey Throttle episode GL asked him what he made in his best year. It was 2006 and he made 9 Million. That’s everything, but still. 9 million in 2006 would be like 12-13 million today. 

TeamGreen wrote:
Between RC & James…and during this period thru/up to the contracts that were ending around 2008/2009…they were making bank.  In 2006, RC was on the Makita...

Between RC & James…and during this period thru/up to the contracts that were ending around 2008/2009…they were making bank. 

In 2006, RC was on the Makita Suzuki with Fox, Oakley and whatever that boot he was wearing was called…? …all those wins & championship bonuses back then…could have easily added up. 

KR’s current opportunities…including his Fox & Red Bull deals…give him a chance to earn a really good amount of money in the current era of MX/SX. Everything KR is doing is simply “wise”. 

Berik?

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SX_336 wrote:
I do know on RC’s Whiskey Throttle episode GL asked him what he made in his best year. It was 2006 and he made 9 Million...

I do know on RC’s Whiskey Throttle episode GL asked him what he made in his best year. It was 2006 and he made 9 Million. That’s everything, but still. 9 million in 2006 would be like 12-13 million today. 

TeamGreen wrote:
Between RC & James…and during this period thru/up to the contracts that were ending around 2008/2009…they were making bank.  In 2006, RC was on the Makita...

Between RC & James…and during this period thru/up to the contracts that were ending around 2008/2009…they were making bank. 

In 2006, RC was on the Makita Suzuki with Fox, Oakley and whatever that boot he was wearing was called…? …all those wins & championship bonuses back then…could have easily added up. 

KR’s current opportunities…including his Fox & Red Bull deals…give him a chance to earn a really good amount of money in the current era of MX/SX. Everything KR is doing is simply “wise”. 

mxb2 wrote:

Berik?

There it is! 

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soyMotero wrote:
Lewis said on one VitalMX podcast that Honda doesn't want Gajser to have an Energy Drink deal, they want the "full Honda HRC" look for their...

Lewis said on one VitalMX podcast that Honda doesn't want Gajser to have an Energy Drink deal, they want the "full Honda HRC" look for their MXGP team, therefore Honda is paying him an extra in his contract that covers what Monster Energy offered him.

Didn’t know that! Weird because all HRC riders in the USA (except Nichols) have them

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At this stage of a career probably. He's a good brand ambassador, too, and that could draw money to his team.

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#434 wrote:
Good for Kenny! And people can’t understand why he chooses WSX to the Nationals, haha.. If they dish out this kinda of money, that’s bad news...

Good for Kenny! And people can’t understand why he chooses WSX to the Nationals, haha..

If they dish out this kinda of money, that’s bad news for the Nationals. It only needs another 3 or 4 top riders going WSX and there’s nobody left racing the 450 nationals..

Yeah, it made sense for him to walk away from HRC when they blocked him from racing the WSX series (STUPID move by Honda!), and going to an underdog OEM like Suzuki. Kenny did pretty great in the 2023 SX series on a “old fashioned” bike…and will probably win the WSX title again.

Stamp this: Ken Roczen is no idiot.

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soyMotero wrote:
Lewis said on one VitalMX podcast that Honda doesn't want Gajser to have an Energy Drink deal, they want the "full Honda HRC" look for their...

Lewis said on one VitalMX podcast that Honda doesn't want Gajser to have an Energy Drink deal, they want the "full Honda HRC" look for their MXGP team, therefore Honda is paying him an extra in his contract that covers what Monster Energy offered him.

Cortami79 wrote:

Didn’t know that! Weird because all HRC riders in the USA (except Nichols) have them

That's because it's not exactly 100% accurate

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TeamGreen wrote:
Between RC & James…and during this period thru/up to the contracts that were ending around 2008/2009…they were making bank.  In 2006, RC was on the Makita...

Between RC & James…and during this period thru/up to the contracts that were ending around 2008/2009…they were making bank. 

In 2006, RC was on the Makita Suzuki with Fox, Oakley and whatever that boot he was wearing was called…? …all those wins & championship bonuses back then…could have easily added up. 

KR’s current opportunities…including his Fox & Red Bull deals…give him a chance to earn a really good amount of money in the current era of MX/SX. Everything KR is doing is simply “wise”. 

mxb2 wrote:

Berik?

TeamGreen wrote:

There it is! 

Not sure anyone saw Berik money, or all owed anyway.  Some didn't.  I saw a contract and it required disputes to be resolved according to Chinese law in China to enforce payment.  Maybe other agents did better.

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#434 wrote:
Good for Kenny! And people can’t understand why he chooses WSX to the Nationals, haha.. If they dish out this kinda of money, that’s bad news...

Good for Kenny! And people can’t understand why he chooses WSX to the Nationals, haha..

If they dish out this kinda of money, that’s bad news for the Nationals. It only needs another 3 or 4 top riders going WSX and there’s nobody left racing the 450 nationals..

davistld01 wrote:
Yeah, it made sense for him to walk away from HRC when they blocked him from racing the WSX series (STUPID move by Honda!), and going...

Yeah, it made sense for him to walk away from HRC when they blocked him from racing the WSX series (STUPID move by Honda!), and going to an underdog OEM like Suzuki. Kenny did pretty great in the 2023 SX series on a “old fashioned” bike…and will probably win the WSX title again.

Stamp this: Ken Roczen is no idiot.

you do understand why Honda "Blocked him" eh??..actually more correctly their contract for him excluded WSX...but call it blocking if it suits your agenda

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RalphS wrote:

Gotta wonder where is that money coming from ... Something tells me Saudi Arabia or the UAE

profeshenal125 wrote:
The % of leasing  humans from other countries & inflated bike prices. If I can make anything out here. I,m racing AX this winter.  I,ll open...

80E71A62-A5EB-4410-B573-80D03942722C.jpeg?VersionId=mQqRT7sgTW24zW2NtfThe % of leasing  humans from other countries & inflated bike prices. If I can make anything out here. I,m racing AX this winter.  I,ll open some eyes then sign a Fat wsx contract

 

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You're racing AX this winter? Dude, yer like 50 and sit on your ass.

I,m 56 cut the 3 way with 2 hot Asian,s short, 8 hrs is enough.  Interstate hook ups r The Best.  I got a much needed shower then went for a walk. Helped the Asian chics with there car. They ask the time. I said my watch says it’s time for a good time. This is after 23 hrs straight of ne ending in nyc & Jersey. Sleep a hr or 2 . Then repeat.  It’s 90 so I had my shirt off , no fat on me bro.  Trk is more physical than Jack hammering , we hand unld 46k also. Ken is probably the only rider chiseled like me, sorry Ken for including you with my whoring . But hey I,m alone I,m on the highway oh yeah dead or alive. Broken down & dirty dressed in rags, etc VH. Really don’t give a shi- , probably why I,m so irresistible & fast on a 125. Oh I checked the AX payouts 6th to 12th 100 bucks. I,ll pass. 

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Argh... we forget Reeds Outdoor insurance payout..? $$$

 

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profeshenal125 wrote:
The % of leasing  humans from other countries & inflated bike prices. If I can make anything out here. I,m racing AX this winter.  I,ll open...

80E71A62-A5EB-4410-B573-80D03942722C.jpeg?VersionId=mQqRT7sgTW24zW2NtfThe % of leasing  humans from other countries & inflated bike prices. If I can make anything out here. I,m racing AX this winter.  I,ll open some eyes then sign a Fat wsx contract

 

wildbill wrote:

You're racing AX this winter? Dude, yer like 50 and sit on your ass.

profeshenal125 wrote:
I,m 56 cut the 3 way with 2 hot Asian,s short, 8 hrs is enough.  Interstate hook ups r The Best.  I got a much needed...

I,m 56 cut the 3 way with 2 hot Asian,s short, 8 hrs is enough.  Interstate hook ups r The Best.  I got a much needed shower then went for a walk. Helped the Asian chics with there car. They ask the time. I said my watch says it’s time for a good time. This is after 23 hrs straight of ne ending in nyc & Jersey. Sleep a hr or 2 . Then repeat.  It’s 90 so I had my shirt off , no fat on me bro.  Trk is more physical than Jack hammering , we hand unld 46k also. Ken is probably the only rider chiseled like me, sorry Ken for including you with my whoring . But hey I,m alone I,m on the highway oh yeah dead or alive. Broken down & dirty dressed in rags, etc VH. Really don’t give a shi- , probably why I,m so irresistible & fast on a 125. Oh I checked the AX payouts 6th to 12th 100 bucks. I,ll pass. 

you need to get a good voice to text app, would make it easier to read. 

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