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None of that is actually happening so you're just making shit up
The picture was from somebody's practice/training track and has nothing to do with the SX series/Feld
Some indoor rc tracks have gone to carpet offroad tracks for 1/10 scale. This gives a clean consistent track, but sacrifices real dirt feel. Alot of places won't lease a space for an indoor track if you want to bring in dirt.
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BREATHE man. I was simply forecasting my opinion on what might happen in the future and why it actually made sense for FELD. Go find a safe space.
yup. and can you imagine the execs at FELD salivating over the cost savings of NO dirt and just dragging some jumps/whoops/berms around the country and laying out a basic track???
The top layer is made of textured/anti-slip rubber. I've seen it used around inground pools and walkways.
The frame is made of aluminum. The middle layer is a composite, and the top is the textured rubber.
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Middle Layer
Top Layer
It's gonna be the track module used in the FIM E-Xplorer series, so yeah, electric dirtbike on artificial track...
https://www.fimexplorer.com/post/newpartner-x-track-canada
They're going to be supplying the all-electric FIM E-Xplorer series.
https://www.fimexplorer.com/post/newpartner-x-track-canada
Those would fit in with the cardboard box tuff blocks they had at world sx
If nothing else; interesting stuff. Electric bikes on synthetic tracks 😮
Maybe I think a little different. When I first saw the picture I thought it would be a great idea to have as a form to cover with dirt in order to cut down on the build time it would take to produce a set of whoops every weekend. But that doesn't look like the intent. So my second thought was, this sucks.
Riding your electric dirtbike over fake obstacles and then cooling off back at the e-car with your bros as you crack open a soylent green and talk about how much you’re going to miss Kamala Harris.
motocross, baby.
It will be interesting to see how the E-Xplorer series is received. They held that pilot race last year, it was ok, I think there's alot more could be done with it. I think Eric Perronard is a promoter, he does good work, they post alot of high quality content on Instagram but it's just kinda lifestyle stuff, it's produced well.
It seems the electric market is splintering off into 2 types of bikes; ones that are smaller and less than 200 lbs like the surron, talria, cake, and electric motion, and full size bikes like the varg, Alta, and KTM freeride which are 250+ lbs.
The lighter bikes seem more popular with people coming off bicycles and moving up to a motorcycle, while most people coming off dirtbikes are waiting for a replacement for what they are used to with gas bikes.
An artificial track would benefit the lighter bikes as they would have more usable power and longer run times vs loamy dirt. The smaller bikes also benefit from a smaller scale track that makes it more feasible for an indoor facility, along with no exhaust. They seem to be a Canadian company, indoor electric tracks in Canada make alot of sense.
I could see something like Ray's mtb park work for surron style electric bikes, not so much for full size bikes like the Alta or varg.
Being that FELD often double dips their dirt with monster jam I don't think they would go to artificial jumps for that reason, but if the riders and fans are always bitching about the track conditions or if they think it would be safer for riders they may go to something like this.
What if they took the over-under bridge and put the ramps on the long side and they could use it as a elevated turn as well as a bridge and jump?
Anyway, looks like the surface would get chewed up in no time. Maybe you can trowel more surface material on to repair it every week.
It's a Canadian company out of Quebec. We've had a few indoor tracks pop up here and there, but as far as I know, none worked out long-term. Why did they all shut down? If I had to guess, the cost to operate a facility to the number of riders using them didn't make financial sense.
Our riding population is likely too small, but with electric bikes like Surron, Talaria, etc., perhaps that segment could grow enough to sustain a year-round indoor facility.
I don't know how well the surface would hold up to the abuse of dirt bikes. Some people have done their driveways with a rubber coating, but they park on it. With wheelspin, braking, hard landings, crashes, etc., they might have to retouch the surface every few rounds. From what I've seen the cost is $8-$15 sq. ft. It's something they would have to keep in mind.
I could see the whoops being something they use from round to round. Dirt Wurx builds the track as usual, and when the crew arrives with the tough blocks all they need to do is drop the modules for the whoops into place, and they're done.
I'm sure the modules are not cheap to build. With dirt, you never need repairs. Need more dirt? Just buy more, and you're done.
I think they're more suited for BMX/MTB parks/indoor tracks than MX/SX tracks.
Ive have watched carpet jumps and synthetic tracks completely ruin RC 1/10 scale "off road" racing over the last few years. It completely removes the "tuning throughout the day" aspect and they end up looking like trash after a few races from chipping.
I beg the Moto industry to not even start with this. It's cool for about a week and then it loses all of its soul when everything "feels exactly the same". Its lazy. Thats all it is. There is nothing better than a freshly groomed track.
last... Tire wear would be brutal and even more important to have a brand new one with fresh edges.
My worthless $0.02 rant.
Could be "a thing" just because they are easy to advertise on.
Clearly never rode a street bike on track
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Would be sick in a minigolf course
Sorry but id rather see this than whoops turn in to jumpers mid night…
If the term "giant waste of unnecessary effort and resources" had a product to sell. Just use dirt man. What a waste of a product. Costs way more than dirt, has even less give than dirt in a crash. Way more effort in making the track. No more skill to ride rough tracks and ruts required..
I was gonna say both sets look scary but you've got a very solid point. That could quite become the "discount tyre whoops section". The tech behind is interesting, it looks like it can absorb some impact, which may make it feel like a set of whoops that have been a bit watered. But that looks big, only for pros ...
It's sounds like MiniGolfCross. How about a windmill tunnel or a moat with a drawbridge that opens and closes during the race?
You nailed it with the soy part, it puts hair on your chest
Kidding aside, you can draw a contrast from offroad RC racing to SX. Offroad RC used to be.. outdoors, dirt, and nitro. Now it is indoors, electric, and carpet tracks are taking off like nobody's business. I feel like I am a walking contradiction because I am not a fan of.. well, soy, but also the idea of electric SX/MX sounds ridiculous. However, offroad RC racing, electric has definitely evolved the hobby, racing indoors is much more enjoyable, and I hate to say it, but the lack of maintenance racing on carpet for both the cars/buggies but also the lack of maintenance for the track operators and having a virtually modular track is kind of cool.
I know it is not the same, but it sort of is. Hopefully MX/SX can keep it's roots.
Show us where Decoster hurt you on the dolly....
As for the artificial whoops. Good grief.
Start grates, holeshot devices, traction control, RPM lights....
WTF happened to this sport.
Webb better hope like hell that they don't start using those in SX while he's still racing....
Sarcasm. Magoo needs to up the prescription on his coke bottle glasses.
I remembered that like it was yesterday.
First thing I thought was this could be a cool training tool to get started on. Then you progress to actual dirt.
I think I'll se my most down votes ever for this post. LOL
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with this and stark coming along, we will see some week day practice and testing at hotels trying starts and working on whoops by manufacturers ordering their own Technix whoop pad from who ever makes them. could build the sport into a tremendous size to be real... E Supercross with tracks that are put together like puzzles, basically the same way a sx track is put together just in different 'pieces' or, jumps, in different spots essentially. the future!
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