Keefer’s Track Etiquette

The bad part is when you are on a tight mountain bike trail and you hear your buddy who is faster than you come up behind you and ride your ass. You yell at him "Bitch, you try to pass me here and I'm sending your ass in the weeds." By the time he passes you and you realize it's some kid and not your buddy you get a little embarrassed. Funny part is the kid sprinted away from me as soon as he passed me and I never got a chance to explain. Haha, my bad bro. 

My favorite is the A guys who signup for the A practice and the C/Vet practice, and then rev bomb every C rider holding them up in their practice. 

Dont get your panties in a wad. Soon enough electric bikes will save you babies.

You must have been at Southwick this past Sunday lol

What it seems to come down to is “C class super hero” wants slower rider to immediately move over for the self professed royalty, instead of simply passing said slower rider that has also paid to be there. “Super hero” also seems to forget just 2 months ago he/she WAS that slower rider! I’ve have seen the long rev more and more lately, it’s the epitome of rude.

This thread captures why many people have left moto in favor of off-road. 

Fast guys need practice passing too. 

Hold your line. We are all out to have fun. Practicing , learning or working on a specific technique. If I am better rider, I can find alternative lines. Keep your focus, achieve your goals, and have fun. I never REV.

Anyone who does this simply doesn't know how to pass. I cannot think of any scenario on a motocross track where following a slow rider through inside ruts and revving the engine is faster than just going outside. And if you can't pass someone "slow" after one or two corners, you probably aren't actually faster and therefore have no reason to get mad! 

This.

Rev bomb me in practice and your faster especially mid turn in like a narrow one line situation.  = me hitting the brake mid corner holding up raging dumbass behind me.  Which doesn't happen to often. 

They see it as your in thier line in the way. When they the fastest rider shouldn't be following and use it as practice for hitting different lines for passing. 

Paybacks only if you're stupid enough to do aggressive block passes on a practice day. Also tired of these dudes putting around on 450's. Who suddenly turn into a pro because you're passing them on a 250 two stroke.  Only to squid out a turn or two later. 

My buddy had some 12 year old punk cross jump him on the face of a high speed double, luckily my buddy saw it coming and checked up. They would have collided mid air for sure. The punk was parked next to us with his mommy and daddy. Took much discipline not go over and learn him some basic track etiquette.

Karma will take care of junior at some point 😊

Cool story about this. quite a while ago when I first started i was riding in the open session towards the end of the day. Some really fast dudes are battling. I start cruising, you know tired little kid. We approach a jump and i start to get out of their way by slowly veering off to the furthest side of the jump. This dude hit an 80 foot double with less than an inch to spare (seriously) to his right and his footpeg ripped the tip of my grip off. i was going 5 mph he was going 45. This was at Seminole tribe mx.

Anyways, no matter what happens, stay in your lines. Faster riders will always go around.

Um, check your soil privilege. 

Just kidding. However, here in the south, the tracks get ripped deep and develop these football to basketball sized chunks of clay and if they don't get beat down before they dry out, the track is literally one line only and if you step out you are truly along for the ride. It sucks lol.

Everyone is a tough guy. 

Ever think that maybe the 12 year old "punk" had his hands full or just didn't know your buddy was there? You had 3 choices of what to do and two of them were bad and you picked a bad one. 

1. Go talk to him in a calm manner and see if he knew he was there or if he had his hands full. I have no idea if it was the first time the kid ever jumped that jump. 

2. Go over and confront him and threaten a 12 year old (I think that would show who the punk is though)

3. Get pissed off and stew in your pits and bitch on Vital. 

I've been rev bombed on a tight single track where I had my hands full and nowhere to get around me. My rule is I'm not going to crash to help you pass me. The worst offenders off road are B class guys, they are faster but don't have the smooooth down. 

😂😂😂👍🏻

The main reason I prefer racing vs practice these days.  Don't have to put up with a young whipersnappers engine noises.  If I do get lapped by the faster guys that are on the first gate, they usually yell at me- but I still hold my line and they end up getting by with 1 lap to go.

At Mammoth during Vet Week in 2018...

Had a kid, a teen-ager around 15 or so, slam me in the turn at the bottom of the steep hill during our 1st day of practice...I think it was Wednesday... I could see it was a kid...DURING VET WEEK?! I get him back a few turns later exiting the "S turns" & I get his bike number. I go to the guy that runs the race. Tell him what just went down and what the kids bike number was.

He gets on the radio, finds the kid..tells him and his dad to pack their shit up and don't come back...not even "next week"...he was suppose to be there..the next week. For poaching our week he got kicked out of his race-week. After a few minutes... I got to thinking about allll the times I'd been a rev'd up little shit out on the track... &...I'd already put this little shit on the ground when I hit him back on the track...and I wasn't feeling too proud of that...tho, trust me, he earned it. But, knowing what a big deal this race can be to a lot of us...ah...fuck...I was starting to feel pretty shitty about all of it. So...I go back to the race director...explain the whole thing & he has no problem with my end of it...but, he gives me a good friendly ration of shit for...Insisting that he let the kid race. The kids dad was cool AF and made the kid apologize...again. As did I for l making a bigger deal out of it than it needed to be.

I think there's a lesson in there...maybe?

And a DQ/ban.

I don't see what he said is wrong.  I'm slow as shit, and move over when I hear the blips.  The old plumbers and electricians like myself need to know too and move over or hold the same line.

Ha ha!

I was trying to learn a cross country track, (50 milers we ride here), and this kid on a tiddler was doing that shit.

I get that a 125 goes faster than a 500 in tight stuff, but trying to pass on the outside on a tight right isn't smart.

Our rear tires made contact, and he evidently went airborne. 

I didn't even know what happened, never felt a thing. 

My buddy who was already passed by the practice hero saw him launch into the woods off my back tire.

I love this for a few reasons..  One, my kid was a C Class kid "training" last year  hahaha!

But 2.  I really like it when tracks are smart, they make a mini moto, a vet moto and an open moto and rotate every 20min.  That's the best way to do it.

Just so I'm clear........this is a practice day? Jeez.

My take is the faster guy should not rev the slower guy and the slower guy should not be upset at all if the fast guy does rev him.

Thank you.

That won't help much.  In our last sprint enduro, I caught a gut who had started the test at least a minute ahead of me.  The pass happened just as we headed back the last 1/2 mile to the check point.  This section was wide open sand washes and he of course had some serious top end as I was wide open and he was still able to pass down the wash.  Of course, he almost parks it in the center of the next corner.  He wasn't fucking with me.  He was just not good in the turns.  I swept to the inside and tried to go around the outside of the next turn.  He proceeds to center punch my front fork.  After the finish, we had a good laugh about it and agreed that it was stupid.  Pro tip:  If a guy catches you in a special, he is faster.  Just pull up for 1 second going into the next turn and let him by.  It is amazing on what you can learn to improve your riding by following someone faster.

Lol...the only time I ever cared about someone trying to pass is a really tight HS or Enduro.  I'll signal which side to pass me on as I do my best to get out of the way.  

On an MX track...are you kidding me?  If you're faster than me...then pass me.  I own my line.  If you can't...then you ain't all that.

I NEVER intentionally try to hold anyone up but I ain't yer bitch.  Blue flags are for race day...not prepped practice.

keefer needs some reefer

What about the post pass head shake?   The guys that can’t believe that anyone would ever be so dumb to do what was done,   The pass and “you are a shithead” headshake.  There are a bunch of us that take the lap times for fun and try to keep up a good average…..most of the time there is very little actual ill will. The cool guy thing went away a bit around 2004.

Race day it’s fair game though 

Amen to that - being a concrete worker (and eventually, a "Concrete Finisher") during the summers over 7 years got me two degrees and only a little debt.  High Fives to those guys...