Pro action vs pro tune vs race tech gold valve

Looking to get some feedback on which direction to go for a revalve on my 2022 MC350.. I’m on stock suspension right now with abt 50hrs. Got similar pricing on a revalve from all 3 company’s. I’ve used factory connection multiple times in the past but the price is much higher 

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Pro action pro tune or race tech

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fourfourone
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3/15/2023 11:52am

I had good luck with race tech on my yz450. 

The trackside support from FC is a nice perk of having them do your suspension esp since you are in the Northeast. 

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Rider 5280
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3/15/2023 11:54am

Finding a good suspension tuner is like finding a good dentist or doctor.

 

Once you find one that works for you, stick with them. And don't cut costs!

 

Trial-and-error takes time and money, but you'll eventually get there. And you will breath s sigh of success - it will be worth it.

 

Good luck! 

 

(P.S. I'm not an Austrian bike guy yet, but I've had phenom results with Craig Decker at Enzo Racing in TX)

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3/15/2023 12:09pm

About what did they quote you?

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3/15/2023 12:29pm

KYB spring conversion from Fc expensive but worth it!

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3/15/2023 12:30pm

Pro Tune is local to me, Corey has always done fantastic work on my stuff. He has my aer forks on my TX300 working so well that even though I'd like to buy some trick forks of some kind, it would be a waste of money. Definitely highly recommended from myself. 

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3/15/2023 12:35pm
wrc777 wrote:

About what did they quote you?

Pro tune was just over 500 and race tech and pro action were just over 700. Factory quoted me 1500-1600 

3/15/2023 12:37pm
Rider 5280 wrote:
Finding a good suspension tuner is like finding a good dentist or doctor.   Once you find one that works for you, stick with them. And...

Finding a good suspension tuner is like finding a good dentist or doctor.

 

Once you find one that works for you, stick with them. And don't cut costs!

 

Trial-and-error takes time and money, but you'll eventually get there. And you will breath s sigh of success - it will be worth it.

 

Good luck! 

 

(P.S. I'm not an Austrian bike guy yet, but I've had phenom results with Craig Decker at Enzo Racing in TX)

My issue with pricing is that I don’t see myself keeping this bike more than another 50hrs so I don’t want to put 1500$ into a bike I’m not going have much longer 

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3/15/2023 2:15pm

I don't get FC pricing. It shows about $300 per end with new oil on their site for a revalve. Are they changing all the springs and wear parts for $1500?

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3/15/2023 2:31pm

I wouldn’t go to pro action. I don’t think they’ve really done much to evolve in the last 20 years.  Pro tune or race tech would be a better option.  Does race tech tuner want you to buy gold valves?  If so I would maybe look elsewhere. The pistons in the aer are pretty good and a good tuner can valve with the stock pistons and save you money. 

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3/15/2023 3:17pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2023 3:21pm
wrc777 wrote:
I don't get FC pricing. It shows about $300 per end with new oil on their site for a revalve. Are they changing all the springs...

I don't get FC pricing. It shows about $300 per end with new oil on their site for a revalve. Are they changing all the springs and wear parts for $1500?

I’m not entirely sure, I called them and asked how much they would charge to just service my suspension and I was told 500-600$ and when I asked about a revalve I was told 1500-1600. I’ve sent different suspension to factory 3 times for revalve and it usually cost me around a G+ I’m assuming that includes replacing wear parts

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3/15/2023 3:21pm

for your weight AND OR SPEED

3/15/2023 3:28pm

Look for a local tuner that will help at your track with the initial set-up, he is worth gold.

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3/15/2023 4:23pm

Great things to say about ProTune. I’m actually selling my 6500 inserts out of my MC350 if you wanna go that route. ProTune valved, about 3-4 hours on them. Nothing wrong, trying to free up some cash, too many bikes. Corey sold them to me in Jan. 

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3/15/2023 6:31pm

I know Corey,  and that's where I'd go between the three mentioned. Nothing wrong with the others, but the price point is a factor, as you wouldn't get better with more $ spent. 

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3/15/2023 6:40pm

Corey at Pro Tune, thank me later....

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3/15/2023 7:37pm
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I know Corey,  and that's where I'd go between the three mentioned. Nothing wrong with the others, but the price point is a factor, as you...

I know Corey,  and that's where I'd go between the three mentioned. Nothing wrong with the others, but the price point is a factor, as you wouldn't get better with more $ spent. 

Totally agree. That's why I like him - He's an honest family man charging fair prices for an incredible service. Idk when a revalve got to be $900 but Corey has better service and a realistic price.

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3/16/2023 1:06am

I'd vote for ProTune.

RaceTech products have their place. However, any tuner that says across the board you need a  "gold valve install" ... I'd run far and fast. Infact swapping out KYB pistons for Gold valves in the 2006 and newer YZ forks.. is in my opinion… just not that smart. 

With that said I’m not a big fan of the WP stuff. It's nice machining. Yet I’ve found the anodizing on the shock body is very thin and wears fast. And I don’t like the shock piston design. Hate the plastic spring collar adjuster, and the non bladder piggy back shock. I’d rather see bigger piston ports (like Showa and KYB have) and put the load on the shims so you can tune it more. But you can make it work. And the two piece shock body allows for the main tube to be replaced….. which needs to be done frequently. 

Oh well... I digress... )

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PTshox wrote:
I'd vote for ProTune. RaceTech products have their place. However, any tuner that says across the board you need a  "gold valve install" ... I'd run...

I'd vote for ProTune.

RaceTech products have their place. However, any tuner that says across the board you need a  "gold valve install" ... I'd run far and fast. Infact swapping out KYB pistons for Gold valves in the 2006 and newer YZ forks.. is in my opinion… just not that smart. 

With that said I’m not a big fan of the WP stuff. It's nice machining. Yet I’ve found the anodizing on the shock body is very thin and wears fast. And I don’t like the shock piston design. Hate the plastic spring collar adjuster, and the non bladder piggy back shock. I’d rather see bigger piston ports (like Showa and KYB have) and put the load on the shims so you can tune it more. But you can make it work. And the two piece shock body allows for the main tube to be replaced….. which needs to be done frequently. 

Oh well... I digress... )

I totally agree here. I owned a suspension shop for almost 20 yrs and was a top Race Tech Center for most of those years. In fact I was #2 in the nation for three years running.

With that being said, I discovered quickly that swapping out some bikes stock pistons (KYB, Showa) was a waste of money as stated before. Basically trading brass colored metal pieces for black/gray pieces. And you know who's fault that was? Paul Thedes. Why? Because when I went to their seminars back in 2000, there were two things that he beat into our heads that you needed to do or have to be a successful tuner. 1) a spring tester. 2) Test. Test until you are blue in the face. And when you are done testing, test some more. And I did. And through all of that testing I found that in most cases I could make a stock piston perform as well or better than GVs.

But being an RTC was a great thing. And I think GVs are great for the DIY guy, who wants to learn and do things himself. So I am not bashing RT but I do agree with the comment concerning tuners that push GVs and nothing more. To me they are just a parts installer. No offense.

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3/18/2023 2:26am

look into pr2 too , they offer a spring conversion and have been very fair priced for me when i used them.

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3/18/2023 5:17am

Corey at Protune. 

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3/18/2023 10:11am

I know you didn’t list them, but have you called Billy at Powerband yet? Fair prices last I knew and he’s better with WP than the companies you named. 

3/18/2023 12:38pm

Powerband or PR2 are very good shops for WP tuning, especially Powerband. Billy knows what he’s doing. 

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