Kenny skips WSX for outdoors. ?

philG
Posts
11065
Joined
5/12/2012
Location
GB
Edited Date/Time 3/14/2023 3:07pm

Saw a post on FB earlier, Roczen is going to skip WSX, which is a bummer, as we will be at the UK round, but stoked he is having a run at outdoors. 

Not seen it anywhere else though. 

1
4
|
3/14/2023 3:09pm
philG wrote:
Saw a post on FB earlier, Roczen is going to skip WSX, which is a bummer, as we will be at the UK round, but stoked...

Saw a post on FB earlier, Roczen is going to skip WSX, which is a bummer, as we will be at the UK round, but stoked he is having a run at outdoors. 

Not seen it anywhere else though. 

It’s been talked about a lot on here and social. Kenny wants to do outdoors but he has the option to do either. It could change so don’t get your hopes up yet. 

aeffertz
Posts
12660
Joined
7/16/2015
Location
La Crosse, WI, USA
3/14/2023 3:12pm

Ken said on yesterday’s PulpMX show that he’s going to be racing the AMA Motocross series this summer. 

31
Rotaholic
Posts
1751
Joined
4/2/2013
Location
NZ
3/14/2023 3:17pm

I imagine he will know after 2 rounds if he will be in the mix, good to have options 

5
SoCalMX70
Posts
3564
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Thousand Oaks, CA, USA
3/14/2023 3:25pm

Yup, on Pulp he confirmed and even stated he wants to get an early start on outdoor testing now that his supercross settings have settled out.

3

The Shop

3/14/2023 3:25pm
philG wrote:
Saw a post on FB earlier, Roczen is going to skip WSX, which is a bummer, as we will be at the UK round, but stoked...

Saw a post on FB earlier, Roczen is going to skip WSX, which is a bummer, as we will be at the UK round, but stoked he is having a run at outdoors. 

Not seen it anywhere else though. 

I’ll be interested in how the British  round goes ,  I don’t believe  villa park is the same level of stadium as Cardiff is , and last year they had Eli and Kenny , probably the 2 biggest names in the sport ,  

 

are the tickets around the same price ? 

bvm111
Posts
10127
Joined
7/1/2008
Location
Las Vegas, NV, USA
3/14/2023 3:31pm

So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and going outdoors?

makes sense 🤦‍♂️

35
6
ACBailey89
Posts
458
Joined
2/10/2021
Location
Bend, OR, USA
3/14/2023 3:32pm
bvm111 wrote:
So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and...

So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and going outdoors?

makes sense 🤦‍♂️

That had more to do with Ken being a man of his word and following through on his commitment of doing it last year. He never made such a commitment this year.

9
DonM
Posts
8732
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
USA
Fantasy
3/14/2023 3:44pm
bvm111 wrote:
So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and...

So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and going outdoors?

makes sense 🤦‍♂️

ACBailey89 wrote:
That had more to do with Ken being a man of his word and following through on his commitment of doing it last year. He never...

That had more to do with Ken being a man of his word and following through on his commitment of doing it last year. He never made such a commitment this year.

Actually it had more to do with how much he would have had to pay WSX if he backed out of the contract with them.....

9
2
3/14/2023 3:56pm

On another related note, I laughed when Kenny tried to say he was an underdog on Pulp and Davi immediately said "you're not an underdog, Kenny" 😂

Yes I know it was all in good fun, just interesting to see where Kenny's head was/is. 

7
Sully
Posts
9440
Joined
8/24/2006
Location
JP
3/14/2023 4:45pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2023 4:45pm
bvm111 wrote:
So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and...

So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and going outdoors?

makes sense 🤦‍♂️

WSX seems like it was the straw that broke the camel's back, but the relationship between Kenny and HRC was going sour long before that.

14
1
GrapeApe
Posts
8889
Joined
6/7/2010
Location
Mc Kinney, TX, USA
3/14/2023 4:47pm Edited Date/Time 3/15/2023 6:50am

My guess is Kenny will do outdoors and then do the Germany round of WSX as a wild card with a very nice appearance fee.

15
soggy
Posts
8806
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
USA
3/14/2023 4:55pm

Adam Bailey must be bummed. Their ‘champion’ isn’t even coming back to defend his title. I’m starting to think WSX just isn’t going to work. 

17
3
decano51
Posts
2783
Joined
10/5/2017
Location
Central Coast, NSW, AU
3/14/2023 5:04pm

i dont think this year will be huge with WSX.. but i think 2024 we will start to see big names. a lot of riders contracts up, some on the back end of careers.

2024 i reckon we will see riders finish up and chase the $$ before they finish up.

2
TeamGreen
Posts
37228
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA, USA
3/14/2023 5:08pm

Kenny made BANK to go and race the WSX series. Just to show up. 

And it doesn’t appear that the same kind of money is available this year. 

Btw, doesn’t Kenny say that “the plan” is to race AMA MX…at this point?

3
aeffertz
Posts
12660
Joined
7/16/2015
Location
La Crosse, WI, USA
3/14/2023 6:02pm
On another related note, I laughed when Kenny tried to say he was an underdog on Pulp and Davi immediately said "you're not an underdog, Kenny"...

On another related note, I laughed when Kenny tried to say he was an underdog on Pulp and Davi immediately said "you're not an underdog, Kenny" 😂

Yes I know it was all in good fun, just interesting to see where Kenny's head was/is. 

I disagree. Going to a privateer team who’s on the most outdated and least supported manufacturer 1 month before the start of SX is just about as underdog as you could be if you’re expected to win. You’re simply wrong if you think Ken was/is a realistic championship contender this year, especially on an unproven bike and team. 

 

It’s funny to me how quickly the narrative has switched to ”Well he’s Ken Roczen, he could win on anything!” from “he’s clearly just chasing the biggest paycheck at the end of his career and riding a bike that is outdated.” Considering at this point of the season most journalists said he probably wouldn’t win a race kinda supports his underdog comment. 

25
2
3/14/2023 6:12pm
On another related note, I laughed when Kenny tried to say he was an underdog on Pulp and Davi immediately said "you're not an underdog, Kenny"...

On another related note, I laughed when Kenny tried to say he was an underdog on Pulp and Davi immediately said "you're not an underdog, Kenny" 😂

Yes I know it was all in good fun, just interesting to see where Kenny's head was/is. 

aeffertz wrote:
I disagree. Going to a privateer team who’s on the most outdated and least supported manufacturer 1 month before the start of SX is just about...

I disagree. Going to a privateer team who’s on the most outdated and least supported manufacturer 1 month before the start of SX is just about as underdog as you could be if you’re expected to win. You’re simply wrong if you think Ken was/is a realistic championship contender this year, especially on an unproven bike and team. 

 

It’s funny to me how quickly the narrative has switched to ”Well he’s Ken Roczen, he could win on anything!” from “he’s clearly just chasing the biggest paycheck at the end of his career and riding a bike that is outdated.” Considering at this point of the season most journalists said he probably wouldn’t win a race kinda supports his underdog comment. 

Hence why I said it was all in good fun, I agree he was definitely the underdog heading into the season.

The point I would make is he created that situation himself, starting with the weirdo Honda fiasco and then finally ending up on Suzuki. I won't pretend to know what all the ins and outs were, but to me it's hard to listen to him talk out of both sides of his mouth on Pulp. How the bike is competitive, but also about how much work it's been.

I'm not a Roczen fan at all, but it was cool seeing him get that win on Saturday. 

1
2
Johnny Ringo
Posts
8219
Joined
1/11/2016
Location
Tombstone, AZ, USA
3/14/2023 6:28pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2023 6:29pm

Astephen couldn’t have ham fisted this whole deal any harder

2
1
Madkiwi
Posts
306
Joined
8/20/2018
Location
Auckland, NZ
3/14/2023 8:17pm

Astephen couldn’t have ham fisted this whole deal any harder

I disagree, I think now he has won his worth has increased. 

He's a current season podium and winner AND tuned an old package to be competitive. 

Whether that is good management or blind luck I'll leave for the forum to decide! Wink

1
early
Posts
10004
Joined
2/13/2013
Location
University Heights, OH, USA
3/14/2023 8:20pm
bvm111 wrote:
So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and...

So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and going outdoors?

makes sense 🤦‍♂️

Sully wrote:

WSX seems like it was the straw that broke the camel's back, but the relationship between Kenny and HRC was going sour long before that.

Gotta think pulling out of SX after daytona last year didn't go over well with HRC.

WSX could not have picked a worse weekend than 4th of July to kick off their 2023 season.

2
RG437
Posts
368
Joined
2/5/2023
Location
Leicester, GB
3/14/2023 8:38pm
soggy wrote:

Adam Bailey must be bummed. Their ‘champion’ isn’t even coming back to defend his title. I’m starting to think WSX just isn’t going to work. 

Who is going to be racing it this year? Savatgy appears to be the best guy. No disrespect to him but he isn’t going to sell tickets like Kenny and Eli can. I don’t see how this series works when it’s competing against SMX and outdoors. It’s just going to be a world tour of SX privateers. 

4
2
TKLEVEN
Posts
450
Joined
12/27/2022
Location
Carrollton, GA, USA
3/14/2023 9:09pm

WSX in the mud? Who coulda thought 

1
#434
Posts
1913
Joined
3/23/2017
Location
DE
3/14/2023 11:16pm

Maybe he’s just making sure WSX will make him the right offer…

4
3/14/2023 11:45pm
bvm111 wrote:
So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and...

So he threw away his opportunity to stay at HRC based on his desire to do WSX… now after everything he is not doing WSX and going outdoors?

makes sense 🤦‍♂️

Kenny’s dad’s interview on the ‘problems with Honda’ would suggest he was happy to be rid of Honda. 
 

complete opposite of “throwing it away”.

2
2
3/14/2023 11:48pm
scott_nz wrote:
I’ll be interested in how the British  round goes ,  I don’t believe  villa park is the same level of stadium as Cardiff is , and...

I’ll be interested in how the British  round goes ,  I don’t believe  villa park is the same level of stadium as Cardiff is , and last year they had Eli and Kenny , probably the 2 biggest names in the sport ,  

 

are the tickets around the same price ? 

The biggest factor for me is it’s right in the middle of the summer. 

Club racers are involved in their own racing- they might have a race that weekend, or might be short on money, or anything else- there’s so much for people to do in the summer that typically I see numbers drop off at races anyway. 
 

I guess this race won’t be as well attended as it was last year.

2
1
CPR
Posts
6976
Joined
10/4/2018
Location
AU
3/15/2023 12:01am

Anyone who thinks Roczen and Honda parting ways was solely because of WSX hasn’t been paying attention.

13
Spoonguy
Posts
3569
Joined
2/28/2022
Location
Mc Kean, PA, USA
3/15/2023 4:08am

For the life of me I can not understand why WSX went up against the schedules of all the outdoor races, local, regional, amateurs, national, and world championships. They are doomed, who is showing up to a stadium to see Bogle race Friese in July? What a way to waste a multi-million dollar investment.

13
Snapper
Posts
1094
Joined
8/28/2009
Location
GB
3/15/2023 4:41am
RG437 wrote:
Who is going to be racing it this year? Savatgy appears to be the best guy. No disrespect to him but he isn’t going to sell...

Who is going to be racing it this year? Savatgy appears to be the best guy. No disrespect to him but he isn’t going to sell tickets like Kenny and Eli can. I don’t see how this series works when it’s competing against SMX and outdoors. It’s just going to be a world tour of SX privateers. 

Deano will be there...

mimafia
Posts
329
Joined
5/17/2013
Location
Grand Rapids, MI, USA
3/15/2023 4:46am

I'm a little bit confused with this wsx thing. So anyone who decides to race wsx rounds will be losing points towards the super motocross championship, as some rounds overlap? Wouldn't the riders view the super motocross championship more important with that huge payout? Is anyone skipping mx rounds to race wsx? 

731chopper
Posts
4227
Joined
1/2/2015
Location
DFW, TX, USA
3/15/2023 5:05am

Kenny has always said he wants to race outdoors. Last year on pulp when asked about what he wanted to do in 2023, he said he wanted to race Supercross and outdoors. 

Gravel
Posts
1863
Joined
2/22/2014
Location
Ridgecrest, CA, USA
3/15/2023 6:19am

Follow the money.. 

Post a reply to: Kenny skips WSX for outdoors. ?

The Latest