So are we cool with Hunter Lawrence putting Thrasher on the ground on lap 1

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3/5/2023 8:24am
soggy wrote:

That was more on Nate then Hunter. Nate tried to cut down in the turn at the beginning of the race when there was no room. 

Boomslang wrote:
You are 100% correct Sir, Hunter took the piece of real estate in front of Nate while Nate anticipated the move but turned down into Hunter...

You are 100% correct Sir, Hunter took the piece of real estate in front of Nate while Nate anticipated the move but turned down into Hunter.

That was a clean pass by Hunter and if Nat backed out of it he would have come out the corner in second position. 

Yes, I'm ok with Hunter's move on Nate. 

jemcee wrote:
I was prepared to stand by the 'turn down' defence haha.. I'll have to watch again but it seemed that the turn down was the only...

I was prepared to stand by the 'turn down' defence haha.. I'll have to watch again but it seemed that the turn down was the only line outside as it was so deep up higher.. I'll gladly be wrong on that though

Everyone saying he turned down early acting like it was a nicely prepped dirt bowl turn Whistling

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3/5/2023 8:28am

Clearly a takeout.  

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3/5/2023 8:30am

Hunter played that perfectly. Well executed.

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3/5/2023 8:35am

I have no issues with any or all of the aggressive racing incidents between Thrasher and Hunter.  These guys are racing for the championship and its been skillfully aggressive.  I have yet to see the contact be dangerous.  Its just been aggressive contact.  Anderson and Barcia have not been racing for the championship in their contact.  I can see a clear difference between the two.  I would expect to see more contact between Thrasher and Hunter in nearly every race going forward where those two are racing close.  I'm good with it as long as its clear they aren't trying to hurt the other rider.  Thus far, its been just really aggressive racing.  All good by me.

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3/5/2023 8:42am
BobbyMyers wrote:

Check the berm tire groove. Thrasher did NOT turn DOWN. Watch it again...and again.

Juck wrote:

Please point this out. I watched the clip multiple times and have no idea how you could think Thrasher didn't turn down

He didn't have a choice IMHO... He was in the groove and he rode it. 

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3/5/2023 1:48pm
BobbyMyers wrote:

Check the berm tire groove. Thrasher did NOT turn DOWN. Watch it again...and again.

Juck wrote:

Please point this out. I watched the clip multiple times and have no idea how you could think Thrasher didn't turn down

BobbyMyers wrote:

He didn't have a choice IMHO... He was in the groove and he rode it. 

100% agree . Thrasher didn't turn down . It's deep sand too . cutting down is slow as feck in sand . He was railing a berm . It a take out . Not a bad one . But if anyone thinks Hunter pulls that move on anyone bar Thrasher, your crazy . 

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Boomslang wrote:
You are 100% correct Sir, Hunter took the piece of real estate in front of Nate while Nate anticipated the move but turned down into Hunter...

You are 100% correct Sir, Hunter took the piece of real estate in front of Nate while Nate anticipated the move but turned down into Hunter.

That was a clean pass by Hunter and if Nat backed out of it he would have come out the corner in second position. 

Yes, I'm ok with Hunter's move on Nate. 

jemcee wrote:
I was prepared to stand by the 'turn down' defence haha.. I'll have to watch again but it seemed that the turn down was the only...

I was prepared to stand by the 'turn down' defence haha.. I'll have to watch again but it seemed that the turn down was the only line outside as it was so deep up higher.. I'll gladly be wrong on that though

bribek100 wrote:
Everyone saying he turned down early acting like it was a nicely prepped dirt bowl turn 

Everyone saying he turned down early acting like it was a nicely prepped dirt bowl turn Whistling

That and the fact , who the hell turns down in that deep of sand .

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3/5/2023 3:12pm

Watching live, it looked ok, warching replays today, I dont see the early turn down by Thrasher that people are stating, Hunter rode him. Dirty no, aggreasive yep, and ruined the 250 main. Heats in both classes were better than the main. Bracia and Sexton at least were entertai ing. Coop and tomac awesome speed, but only one pass.

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3/5/2023 6:02pm

Mreh. Hit side to side. Sucks to go down but I don't think you can be too upset about it. That's a supercross pass.

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3/5/2023 9:28pm
KurtJ99 wrote:
I like Stews take - it was a takeout. The "turned down early"  wasn't the entire story. Hunter rode him up high and was inside of...

I like Stews take - it was a takeout. The "turned down early"  wasn't the entire story. Hunter rode him up high and was inside of him. Brilliant tactically but let's not pretend he was giving Thrasher any options. A bit aggressive for early in the race. Last few laps that would have made more sense. 

So you would have him procrastinate?

Why do something now when you can wait and do it later. Wink

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3/5/2023 10:05pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:
 

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Look at Thrashers left foot, it's already off the peg there.

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3/5/2023 10:19pm
Juck wrote:

Please point this out. I watched the clip multiple times and have no idea how you could think Thrasher didn't turn down

BobbyMyers wrote:

He didn't have a choice IMHO... He was in the groove and he rode it. 

brimx153 wrote:
100% agree . Thrasher didn't turn down . It's deep sand too . cutting down is slow as feck in sand . He was railing a...

100% agree . Thrasher didn't turn down . It's deep sand too . cutting down is slow as feck in sand . He was railing a berm . It a take out . Not a bad one . But if anyone thinks Hunter pulls that move on anyone bar Thrasher, your crazy . 

Bullshit, he'd punt Antsie if he had to and he may have to.

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3/5/2023 11:10pm
Ozy wrote:
I think Nate needs to pay more attention. he could have avoided going down if backed off the throttle and stood the bike up until 96...

I think Nate needs to pay more attention. he could have avoided going down if backed off the throttle and stood the bike up until 96 went by.

I doubt Thrasher lives up to his name and pays him back next weekend

Yes, its called racing....... and Thrasher is my guy.   He left the door open and Lawrence took it.  Good move, Nate will learn.

 

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3/5/2023 11:31pm

Fairly sure Hunter owned it in the post race interview.

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3/5/2023 11:45pm

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 I came across this image. 

Looks to me that nate is turning out of the top rut and hunter is going just below.

I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect nate to stay in that top rut. But looks like hunter would have still hit him.

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3/6/2023 12:05am

I think hunter 100% wanted to make a big block pass. I don’t think he intended on taking him out (but how do I know)

what I DO know is, you don’t wanna be playing dumb games like this with a title on the line.

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mx313 wrote:
 I came across this image.  Looks to me that nate is turning out of the top rut and hunter is going just below. I don't think...

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 I came across this image. 

Looks to me that nate is turning out of the top rut and hunter is going just below.

I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect nate to stay in that top rut. But looks like hunter would have still hit him.

Yeah that was my thoughts.. I don't think the line out at the tough blocks was used late in the night as it was so deep.. So Nate wasn't 'turning down' so much as in the actual line.. That said I don't really have a problem with the move! As Hunter said he saw the opportunity and took it

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3/6/2023 12:50am

Looks moody to me. Nate definitely left the door open, but Hunter knew that would only end one way and he was willing to do it. 
 

it was t possible for Nate to continue around the wide line because the sand is so deep he would have ground to a halt if he’d buried himself in that.

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3/6/2023 12:54am

"So are we cool with Hunter Lawrence putting Thrasher on the ground on lap 1"

 

Yes

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southeast wrote:
Hunter went where no other rider had gone. Hunter purposely went there to take him out. Hunter is scared of competition. He chokes with competition. We...

Hunter went where no other rider had gone. Hunter purposely went there to take him out. Hunter is scared of competition. He chokes with competition. We seen Joe make Hunter choke all last year. We seen Hunter Choke with pressure from Justin Cooper at MXON.

He really choked at Tampa Laughing

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3/6/2023 2:55am

These kind of passes, (take-outs), always leave me reminded of Roczen's arm going into CW's back wheel. That last photo has Thrasher completely at the mercy of gravity and when this happens, you naturally stick your hand out to stop yourself from falling. 

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3/6/2023 3:17am
BobbyMyers wrote:

Check the berm tire groove. Thrasher did NOT turn DOWN. Watch it again...and again.

Juck wrote:

Please point this out. I watched the clip multiple times and have no idea how you could think Thrasher didn't turn down

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3/6/2023 7:47am
Looks moody to me. Nate definitely left the door open, but Hunter knew that would only end one way and he was willing to do it. ...

Looks moody to me. Nate definitely left the door open, but Hunter knew that would only end one way and he was willing to do it. 
 

it was t possible for Nate to continue around the wide line because the sand is so deep he would have ground to a halt if he’d buried himself in that.

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Thrasher left way too much room for Hunter to dive in there . He gave Hunter an opening and Hunter jumped on it . That’s racing .

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3/6/2023 7:59am

If you can't make that pass, how the hell do you even race? Nothing wrong with it. 

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3/6/2023 12:40pm

Not a Hunter fan at all but I had no real problem with the move. Was there intent to be aggressive? I would say yes. I think he knew he was going to take him high. I don't think Nate "turned down early" as much as he just followed the line he thought was the best for that turn, and didn't anticipate HL to run him deep. So he probably didn't help himself with that choice. I can only assume that he thought he had enough space that Hunter couldn't angle him off like that and he guessed wrong. The real bummer was the 2nd crash though. Because he was making ground to at least make it not too bad of a night (all things considered.) That 2nd crash might come back to haunt him. 

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