22 yz450 doing ktm things….

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Anyone seen a 22 yz450 break in half yet? Now you have. This was done at a harescramble in Florida. Yamaha offered to give him a new frame but he has to pay to have it professionally assembled, that doesn’t include whatever else is destroyed on the bike. He bought a ktm recently btw and this is the way this bike will stay  262AF251-1433-47BC-BC59-F370307562F6

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3/1/2023 5:29pm

I dunno what looks worse the frame or the leg fracture. Ouch. 

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3/1/2023 5:38pm

We”ll …..did he hit a tree at high speed? 

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3/1/2023 5:47pm

Sucks he got hurt. What caused the frame to break? Kind of useless without context

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3/1/2023 5:48pm
sandman768 wrote:

We”ll …..did he hit a tree at high speed? 

He did not. One of the A riders behind him watched the whole thing. They were 4th wide at the end of a straight away. That was the first thing we all said. 

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3/1/2023 5:53pm

Sucks he got hurt. What caused the frame to break? Kind of useless without context

Yes it does. To be honest no one knows. He went back a few weeks later on his sxs once he was somewhat mobile again, and there was nothing in the trail he could hit where his line was. Just some wrappers from the medic crew is all that was there. We have talked to several professionally and myself included think it was poor penetration on the welds with weak material. His brother in law has the exact same bike, the welds on his look much better in terms of penetration and how the bead is laid out. 

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3/1/2023 5:59pm
sandman768 wrote:

We”ll …..did he hit a tree at high speed? 

JB722 wrote:
He did not. One of the A riders behind him watched the whole thing. They were 4th wide at the end of a straight away. That...

He did not. One of the A riders behind him watched the whole thing. They were 4th wide at the end of a straight away. That was the first thing we all said. 

Wow… now that is scary! 

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3/1/2023 6:05pm

Is it possible to get some close up shots of where it broke?  It looks like there's oxidation in some of the breaks.  If so, this has been been partially broken for a while, and just finally gave out.

Reminds me that we all should inspect our bikes thoroughly a bit more often.

I hope your friend heals up well!

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3/1/2023 7:25pm
Radical wrote:
Is it possible to get some close up shots of where it broke?  It looks like there's oxidation in some of the breaks.  If so, this...

Is it possible to get some close up shots of where it broke?  It looks like there's oxidation in some of the breaks.  If so, this has been been partially broken for a while, and just finally gave out.

Reminds me that we all should inspect our bikes thoroughly a bit more often.

I hope your friend heals up well!

Thank you! I’ll see what we can get soon. He’s back working and riding again, this happened a few months back we just have been waiting to see what Yamaha was going to do. All he wanted was the bike fixed honestly. I’ll check the oxidation next time I see the bike, good sight! 

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3/1/2023 8:14pm
JB722 wrote:
Thank you! I’ll see what we can get soon. He’s back working and riding again, this happened a few months back we just have been waiting...

Thank you! I’ll see what we can get soon. He’s back working and riding again, this happened a few months back we just have been waiting to see what Yamaha was going to do. All he wanted was the bike fixed honestly. I’ll check the oxidation next time I see the bike, good sight! 

It’s a bummer Yamaha was demanding it be rebuilt by a licensed dealer.  Feels like with the right relationship with a dealer you could work around this but it would be the dealers neck on the line. 

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3/1/2023 8:58pm

Sounds like a bad day at the track

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3/1/2023 9:15pm
JB722 wrote:
Thank you! I’ll see what we can get soon. He’s back working and riding again, this happened a few months back we just have been waiting...

Thank you! I’ll see what we can get soon. He’s back working and riding again, this happened a few months back we just have been waiting to see what Yamaha was going to do. All he wanted was the bike fixed honestly. I’ll check the oxidation next time I see the bike, good sight! 

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It’s a bummer Yamaha was demanding it be rebuilt by a licensed dealer.  Feels like with the right relationship with a dealer you could work around...

It’s a bummer Yamaha was demanding it be rebuilt by a licensed dealer.  Feels like with the right relationship with a dealer you could work around this but it would be the dealers neck on the line. 

I'm thinking Yamaha may want the dealer to reassemble it so they can attempt to figure out what went wrong.  JB: Has your friend tried to get Yamaha to pay the labor costs?

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3/1/2023 10:00pm
soggy wrote:

I dunno what looks worse the frame or the leg fracture. Ouch. 

I'm going with the leg fracture.  Parts you can get. Glad to hear he's up and around.  

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3/1/2023 10:30pm

Thats scary!!!! Yamaha should pay for all his costs!!!

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3/2/2023 3:47am

The title of this thread is "Yamaha doing KTM things". Then once this happened, your friend went out and bought a KTM. Why did he not just buy a 2023 Yamaha YZ450 ? 

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3/2/2023 5:04am

Put that bike on display somewhere around DaytonA for bike week.. Maybe show it around the stadium before the SX race…. Yamaha probably enjoy the publicity 👍

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3/2/2023 5:13am
Fangface wrote:

Thats scary!!!! Yamaha should pay for all his costs!!!

If you want race ready equipment, for a reasonable cost, straight out of the dealership (like motocross bikes are) then things like this are always an outside chance unfortunately. Similar to a near new engine blowing up, we ask a lot of out of a small single cylinder engine.

I'd be pissed don't get me wrong, especially with a resulting injury, and I understand people saying Yamaha should pay given the bike is pretty fresh, and given its age I'd agree it would be a welcome good will gesture, but it's never that clear cut.

My money is on a previous crack growing also, as mentioned above. If it's a shitty weld or a material or manufacturing defect this is all void obviously, they should stand by that.

3/2/2023 7:47am
Fangface wrote:

Thats scary!!!! Yamaha should pay for all his costs!!!

Richy wrote:
If you want race ready equipment, for a reasonable cost, straight out of the dealership (like motocross bikes are) then things like this are always an...

If you want race ready equipment, for a reasonable cost, straight out of the dealership (like motocross bikes are) then things like this are always an outside chance unfortunately. Similar to a near new engine blowing up, we ask a lot of out of a small single cylinder engine.

I'd be pissed don't get me wrong, especially with a resulting injury, and I understand people saying Yamaha should pay given the bike is pretty fresh, and given its age I'd agree it would be a welcome good will gesture, but it's never that clear cut.

My money is on a previous crack growing also, as mentioned above. If it's a shitty weld or a material or manufacturing defect this is all void obviously, they should stand by that.

There is a very simple explanation why they wouldn't cover the medical costs.

If they covered it in this scenario they would have to cover any cost that someone may incur while riding one of their off-road products. It would set a precedent in a court case for injuries which I'm sure Yamaha is avoiding at all costs.

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3/2/2023 7:54am
Fangface wrote:

Thats scary!!!! Yamaha should pay for all his costs!!!

Richy wrote:
If you want race ready equipment, for a reasonable cost, straight out of the dealership (like motocross bikes are) then things like this are always an...

If you want race ready equipment, for a reasonable cost, straight out of the dealership (like motocross bikes are) then things like this are always an outside chance unfortunately. Similar to a near new engine blowing up, we ask a lot of out of a small single cylinder engine.

I'd be pissed don't get me wrong, especially with a resulting injury, and I understand people saying Yamaha should pay given the bike is pretty fresh, and given its age I'd agree it would be a welcome good will gesture, but it's never that clear cut.

My money is on a previous crack growing also, as mentioned above. If it's a shitty weld or a material or manufacturing defect this is all void obviously, they should stand by that.

There is a very simple explanation why they wouldn't cover the medical costs. If they covered it in this scenario they would have to cover any...

There is a very simple explanation why they wouldn't cover the medical costs.

If they covered it in this scenario they would have to cover any cost that someone may incur while riding one of their off-road products. It would set a precedent in a court case for injuries which I'm sure Yamaha is avoiding at all costs.

pay him and have him sign an NDA

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3/2/2023 8:18am
moto111 wrote:
The title of this thread is "Yamaha doing KTM things". Then once this happened, your friend went out and bought a KTM. Why did he not...

The title of this thread is "Yamaha doing KTM things". Then once this happened, your friend went out and bought a KTM. Why did he not just buy a 2023 Yamaha YZ450 ? 

Because the cranks are blowing in the 23 yz450...

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3/2/2023 8:23am

What race did it happen at? I saw he had it for sale at our race (Alligator Hare Scramble.) 

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3/2/2023 8:23am

Wow....that is bad.     The leg injury is worse.        

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3/2/2023 8:33am

Oh the irony to the title of this thread. Try to drag KTM into a Yamaha catastrophic failure but yet the owner/rider bought a KTM after this fail. Seems logical to me lol. 

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3/2/2023 4:09pm
McG194 wrote:

What race did it happen at? I saw he had it for sale at our race (Alligator Hare Scramble.) 

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3/2/2023 5:55pm
moto111 wrote:
The title of this thread is "Yamaha doing KTM things". Then once this happened, your friend went out and bought a KTM. Why did he not...

The title of this thread is "Yamaha doing KTM things". Then once this happened, your friend went out and bought a KTM. Why did he not just buy a 2023 Yamaha YZ450 ? 

racerxx276 wrote:

Because the cranks are blowing in the 23 yz450...

Got my attention. How many have you heard of?

3/3/2023 11:53am
JB722 wrote:
Anyone seen a 22 yz450 break in half yet? Now you have. This was done at a harescramble in Florida. Yamaha offered to give him a...

Anyone seen a 22 yz450 break in half yet? Now you have. This was done at a harescramble in Florida. Yamaha offered to give him a new frame but he has to pay to have it professionally assembled, that doesn’t include whatever else is destroyed on the bike. He bought a ktm recently btw and this is the way this bike will stay  262AF251-1433-47BC-BC59-F370307562F6

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I have one exactly the same, the leg that is.

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3/3/2023 6:33pm
moto111 wrote:
The title of this thread is "Yamaha doing KTM things". Then once this happened, your friend went out and bought a KTM. Why did he not...

The title of this thread is "Yamaha doing KTM things". Then once this happened, your friend went out and bought a KTM. Why did he not just buy a 2023 Yamaha YZ450 ? 

He had a bad taste from Yamaha. The ktm is now for sale also. Doesn’t like how it handles lol

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3/4/2023 5:58am

A friend of mine sent me this on new years day. Apparently someone he knows in FL hit a kid on an 85 on track and snapped the YZ in half. Kid on the 85 was fine. obviously this one didn't break at the welds. This one is a 2020image-20230304085619-2image-20230304085556-1

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3/4/2023 6:13am
moto111 wrote:
The title of this thread is "Yamaha doing KTM things". Then once this happened, your friend went out and bought a KTM. Why did he not...

The title of this thread is "Yamaha doing KTM things". Then once this happened, your friend went out and bought a KTM. Why did he not just buy a 2023 Yamaha YZ450 ? 

JB722 wrote:

He had a bad taste from Yamaha. The ktm is now for sale also. Doesn’t like how it handles lol

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3/4/2023 6:45am
soggy wrote:

I dunno what looks worse the frame or the leg fracture. Ouch. 

Bet the leg was cheaper to repair.

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3/4/2023 8:59am
soggy wrote:

I dunno what looks worse the frame or the leg fracture. Ouch. 

ktmdan wrote:

Bet the leg was cheaper to repair.

I doubt it. 

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