2023 MXGP Discussion

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I really hope Geerts get this MX2 title. Even with him being such a heavy favourite for it I'm still not sure if going to the MXGP class would've been a better decision

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2/25/2023 6:56am
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I really hope Geerts get this MX2 title. Even with him being such a heavy favourite for it I'm still not sure if going to the...

I really hope Geerts get this MX2 title. Even with him being such a heavy favourite for it I'm still not sure if going to the MXGP class would've been a better decision

He has to win IMO. It would be quite a let down if he doesn’t. A Belgian winning a world title would be a return to normal as well. 

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Maybe this will flop – I kind of expect it to – but I thought it would be good to have a spot to talk MXGP. I know...

Maybe this will flop – I kind of expect it to – but I thought it would be good to have a spot to talk MXGP.

I know there is a silly season thread, but that's for that... Let's talk racing! There is a lot going on now.

Any News on where Isak Gifting might end up? Has he find something? Or had something already when Hitachi closed? All MX fans in Sweden are very curious..

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2/26/2023 8:42am

Super bummed Gasjer is out. It was shaping up to be a great season. 
A healthy Herlings is going to be hard to beat, but I’m thinking Febvre is the guy to challenge him this year. His broken femur took a lot out of him last season, but I feel he will be strong. 
 For some reason, I feel Tim’s break wasn’t as bad as Roman’s? 
 

 Prado, Seewer will keep things interesting, excited for the season to start! 

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2/26/2023 11:44am

Fernandez 2-1 and Prado 1-2 today at Spanish Championship race so Fernandez won.  

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Fernandez 2-1 and Prado 1-2 today at Spanish Championship race so Fernandez won.  

Will be interesting to see if Prado still struggles with his physical form this year.

2/26/2023 12:37pm
If Herlings makes it to every race it's just impossible to go against him. I'm really thinking Seewer will have a great year and hope thats...

If Herlings makes it to every race it's just impossible to go against him. I'm really thinking Seewer will have a great year and hope thats the case. But then there's so many guys that I can see being regular threats of wins and podiums, easily any of the top 10 could pull a podium or win out of the bag and it wouldn't surprise me.

That is where I'm at. If Herlings is on the starting line, my head just will not let me bet against him... I think we'll end...

That is where I'm at. If Herlings is on the starting line, my head just will not let me bet against him...

I think we'll end up with six winners in 2023 (Herlings, Seewer, Renaux, Prado, Febvre and Gajser).

Herlings, Sexton and Tomac are the best overall riders on the planet. Period. So, if healthy I don't see how Jefferey doesn't win this title. Really bummed about Gajser. Stinks for him and the sport.

I will say though after going to the past MXON I could make a case for Seewer. He was flat out one of the fastest guys all weekend at Red Budd and really had the will to win at all costs. Seeing him in person all weekend in the pits chatting with him and his speed on the track really impressed me and so many others. He was so pissed finishing second after a heck of a ride and busted his ass in the mud in one of his motos it was mind-blowing. HE WAS BULLSHIT. Such a Great competitor. He's one of the great guys in the sport and would be overjoyed if he could win a much-deserved title. Hell, if he had a better first half of last season, he very well would have won the title. 

Also, after seeing Geerts at Red Budd I'd be stunned if he doesn't win MX2. Hopefully Adamo can move to a contender.

Great Topic

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2/26/2023 12:49pm

Herlings had a 'character' day at Hawkstone today , Coldenhoff was on it Febvre took a win too, Brent Van Doninck was goos and was on Coldenhoff for most of the last race. 

Herlings had an issue off the gate in race one, and took a while get going in the other 2, he looked like a man taking zero risks. 

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2/26/2023 1:44pm
If Herlings makes it to every race it's just impossible to go against him. I'm really thinking Seewer will have a great year and hope thats...

If Herlings makes it to every race it's just impossible to go against him. I'm really thinking Seewer will have a great year and hope thats the case. But then there's so many guys that I can see being regular threats of wins and podiums, easily any of the top 10 could pull a podium or win out of the bag and it wouldn't surprise me.

That is where I'm at. If Herlings is on the starting line, my head just will not let me bet against him... I think we'll end...

That is where I'm at. If Herlings is on the starting line, my head just will not let me bet against him...

I think we'll end up with six winners in 2023 (Herlings, Seewer, Renaux, Prado, Febvre and Gajser).

Herlings, Sexton and Tomac are the best overall riders on the planet. Period. So, if healthy I don't see how Jefferey doesn't win this title. Really...

Herlings, Sexton and Tomac are the best overall riders on the planet. Period. So, if healthy I don't see how Jefferey doesn't win this title. Really bummed about Gajser. Stinks for him and the sport.

I will say though after going to the past MXON I could make a case for Seewer. He was flat out one of the fastest guys all weekend at Red Budd and really had the will to win at all costs. Seeing him in person all weekend in the pits chatting with him and his speed on the track really impressed me and so many others. He was so pissed finishing second after a heck of a ride and busted his ass in the mud in one of his motos it was mind-blowing. HE WAS BULLSHIT. Such a Great competitor. He's one of the great guys in the sport and would be overjoyed if he could win a much-deserved title. Hell, if he had a better first half of last season, he very well would have won the title. 

Also, after seeing Geerts at Red Budd I'd be stunned if he doesn't win MX2. Hopefully Adamo can move to a contender.

Great Topic

Watching the race in person such as you did I got the vibe on Saturday the AMA riders were the fastest. Sunday in the mud I felt like team USA did what was needed to win and didn't push like the other teams did. Coopers second moto was amazing, especially on the back half.

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I had TiGa and Renaux as the top contenders for the title with Herlings leading until he missed a handful of races.  With TiGa out, I’m betting on Renaux with Seewer right behind.

2/26/2023 2:26pm
That is where I'm at. If Herlings is on the starting line, my head just will not let me bet against him... I think we'll end...

That is where I'm at. If Herlings is on the starting line, my head just will not let me bet against him...

I think we'll end up with six winners in 2023 (Herlings, Seewer, Renaux, Prado, Febvre and Gajser).

Herlings, Sexton and Tomac are the best overall riders on the planet. Period. So, if healthy I don't see how Jefferey doesn't win this title. Really...

Herlings, Sexton and Tomac are the best overall riders on the planet. Period. So, if healthy I don't see how Jefferey doesn't win this title. Really bummed about Gajser. Stinks for him and the sport.

I will say though after going to the past MXON I could make a case for Seewer. He was flat out one of the fastest guys all weekend at Red Budd and really had the will to win at all costs. Seeing him in person all weekend in the pits chatting with him and his speed on the track really impressed me and so many others. He was so pissed finishing second after a heck of a ride and busted his ass in the mud in one of his motos it was mind-blowing. HE WAS BULLSHIT. Such a Great competitor. He's one of the great guys in the sport and would be overjoyed if he could win a much-deserved title. Hell, if he had a better first half of last season, he very well would have won the title. 

Also, after seeing Geerts at Red Budd I'd be stunned if he doesn't win MX2. Hopefully Adamo can move to a contender.

Great Topic

southeast wrote:
Watching the race in person such as you did I got the vibe on Saturday the AMA riders were the fastest. Sunday in the mud I...

Watching the race in person such as you did I got the vibe on Saturday the AMA riders were the fastest. Sunday in the mud I felt like team USA did what was needed to win and didn't push like the other teams did. Coopers second moto was amazing, especially on the back half.

I agree with that. Tomac and Sexton are at the highest level. Ferrandis and Marv and a few others looked good. I wish Gajser was there. I was not Justin Cooper fan before the MXON, but I have to give him his do. He was flat insane both days and made all the fans very proud. I was still impressed with all the MXGP guys. I wish we could get USGP back at a venue where it would be supported and help promote the whole sport like the Carlsbad GP did. 

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2/26/2023 2:58pm

We’ll have to see what Prado brings this year, last year it seemed you never really saw him going forward.  He would get his traditional good start then stay up there or get shuffled back.  If he starts mid pack it’s rare to see him moving forward.  Hope to see Vlaandren get another win and Bogers do well on the Honda.  Herlings will be back to full speed at some point and hopefully he stays out of the ambulance.  Looking forward to another good year! 

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3/3/2023 10:25am

It's going to be a great weekend of racing, with LaCapelle Marival and an international at Lierop! I'm especially keen for that.

LaCapelle Marival entry lists are HERE. Lierop entry lists are HERE – this one is especially stacked.

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3/3/2023 11:52am

I want to go watch a GP, preferably a deep sand track…. Which one is best ? 

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3/3/2023 12:05pm
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I had TiGa and Renaux as the top contenders for the title with Herlings leading until he missed a handful of races.  With TiGa out, I’m...

I had TiGa and Renaux as the top contenders for the title with Herlings leading until he missed a handful of races.  With TiGa out, I’m betting on Renaux with Seewer right behind.

I reckon  renaux can go to a new level.

 

3/3/2023 12:12pm
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I want to go watch a GP, preferably a deep sand track…. Which one is best ? 

My favorite question! If you want deep sand, then Lommel is truly the only option. You would fly to Amsterdam – that's easy.

The only downside is that the viewing is not great (it is a flat field). That is the only real negative that I can think of, honestly...

It's not deep down, but I'd recommend Kegums (Latvia) for something a little bit different.

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3/3/2023 12:14pm
Press516 wrote:
I had TiGa and Renaux as the top contenders for the title with Herlings leading until he missed a handful of races.  With TiGa out, I’m...

I had TiGa and Renaux as the top contenders for the title with Herlings leading until he missed a handful of races.  With TiGa out, I’m betting on Renaux with Seewer right behind.

bowl wrote:

I reckon  renaux can go to a new level.

 

Interesting question I have about him. Renaux was the underdog in 2021 and won the MX2 title.

Renaux was then the underdog in MXGP last year – no real expectations – and he did very well.

This is the first time that he has entered a season with big expectations and a lot of eyes on him. How will he handle that?

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3/3/2023 12:28pm
It's going to be a great weekend of racing, with LaCapelle Marival and an international at Lierop! I'm especially keen for that. LaCapelle Marival entry lists...

It's going to be a great weekend of racing, with LaCapelle Marival and an international at Lierop! I'm especially keen for that.

LaCapelle Marival entry lists are HERE. Lierop entry lists are HERE – this one is especially stacked.

Very strange that Herlings is going to France rather than his backyard. 

3/3/2023 12:34pm
It's going to be a great weekend of racing, with LaCapelle Marival and an international at Lierop! I'm especially keen for that. LaCapelle Marival entry lists...

It's going to be a great weekend of racing, with LaCapelle Marival and an international at Lierop! I'm especially keen for that.

LaCapelle Marival entry lists are HERE. Lierop entry lists are HERE – this one is especially stacked.

Very strange that Herlings is going to France rather than his backyard. 

Yeah, I thought that. I like it though. There is not much for him to gain in the sand, is there?

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My favorite question! If you want deep sand, then Lommel is truly the only option. You would fly to Amsterdam – that's easy. The only downside is...

My favorite question! If you want deep sand, then Lommel is truly the only option. You would fly to Amsterdam – that's easy.

The only downside is that the viewing is not great (it is a flat field). That is the only real negative that I can think of, honestly...

It's not deep down, but I'd recommend Kegums (Latvia) for something a little bit different.

Yes….. Amsterdam! That’s what I wanted to hear! Thanks

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3/3/2023 12:41pm
It's going to be a great weekend of racing, with LaCapelle Marival and an international at Lierop! I'm especially keen for that. LaCapelle Marival entry lists...

It's going to be a great weekend of racing, with LaCapelle Marival and an international at Lierop! I'm especially keen for that.

LaCapelle Marival entry lists are HERE. Lierop entry lists are HERE – this one is especially stacked.

Very strange that Herlings is going to France rather than his backyard. 

Yeah, I thought that. I like it though. There is not much for him to gain in the sand, is there?

Probably paying more purse money. 

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3/3/2023 12:47pm
sandman768 wrote:

I want to go watch a GP, preferably a deep sand track…. Which one is best ? 

Arnhem is also a sand track

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3/3/2023 1:35pm

Nice to see lierop still going after all the talk of it closing ,worst track to spectate but man oh man is that track deep and great to watch the riders floating through there 

Can still see smell Marc pinned on that 250sx leading everts great racing 

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3/3/2023 1:39pm
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Nice to see lierop still going after all the talk of it closing ,worst track to spectate but man oh man is that track deep and...

Nice to see lierop still going after all the talk of it closing ,worst track to spectate but man oh man is that track deep and great to watch the riders floating through there 

Can still see smell Marc pinned on that 250sx leading everts great racing 

That Lierop weekend was the first international race that I went to! I'd love for MXGP to go back there. Magical place.

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3/3/2023 2:07pm
Interesting question I have about him. Renaux was the underdog in 2021 and won the MX2 title. Renaux was then the underdog in MXGP last year –...

Interesting question I have about him. Renaux was the underdog in 2021 and won the MX2 title.

Renaux was then the underdog in MXGP last year – no real expectations – and he did very well.

This is the first time that he has entered a season with big expectations and a lot of eyes on him. How will he handle that?

I think Renaux is going to be the 2023 champ.

2020 he stepped his game up big time getting a win and 5 podiums, establishing him as a legit contender.

2021 he wins the title, and you can say what you want about Vialle getting hurt, but Maxime had a hell of a year. Even after Tom was back to full strength, they battled almost every race, proving that Renaux took another step forward.

2022 absolutely shattered everyones expectations. He had some sketchy rookie moments, but 8 podiums and a win stacks up against anybodys 1st year on 450. 

Then there was Red Bud where he STAMPED his name in the history books as someone who beat pretty much every single “great” rider of our era on the worlds biggest stage.

I just don’t see how he doesn’t make a run for the title this year with that trajectory, especially with the state of his major competitors.

 

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3/3/2023 4:12pm
J2s wrote:
Nice to see lierop still going after all the talk of it closing ,worst track to spectate but man oh man is that track deep and...

Nice to see lierop still going after all the talk of it closing ,worst track to spectate but man oh man is that track deep and great to watch the riders floating through there 

Can still see smell Marc pinned on that 250sx leading everts great racing 

I don't agree with the spectate aspect. It is one of the best circuits to be. Great track, very nice to walk through the woods. Great atmosphere. And if the races are like at the MXDn the all the better. ;-)

 

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3/3/2023 4:18pm

I think this year consistency will be key. Injuries will play a vital role. Herlings will miss some GP's surely. 

Maybe it is Seewer this year. Or maybe Renaux. Or probably someone I am forgetting.

 

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3/3/2023 4:30pm
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I think this year consistency will be key. Injuries will play a vital role. Herlings will miss some GP's surely.  Maybe it is Seewer this year...

I think this year consistency will be key. Injuries will play a vital role. Herlings will miss some GP's surely. 

Maybe it is Seewer this year. Or maybe Renaux. Or probably someone I am forgetting.

 

Do you mean Herlings Will not be in Shape in some GP’s or not race some GP’s?

This season can become a 2021 copy No doubt. Gajser Will be back in Arco. Might not go for the title but he can for sure mix up races!

3/3/2023 4:39pm
havemah wrote:
I think this year consistency will be key. Injuries will play a vital role. Herlings will miss some GP's surely.  Maybe it is Seewer this year...

I think this year consistency will be key. Injuries will play a vital role. Herlings will miss some GP's surely. 

Maybe it is Seewer this year. Or maybe Renaux. Or probably someone I am forgetting.

 

I think the Yamaha boys need to come out firing and build points/momentum whilst Herlings is building, then stay consistent.

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3/3/2023 7:27pm
It's going to be a great weekend of racing, with LaCapelle Marival and an international at Lierop! I'm especially keen for that. LaCapelle Marival entry lists...

It's going to be a great weekend of racing, with LaCapelle Marival and an international at Lierop! I'm especially keen for that.

LaCapelle Marival entry lists are HERE. Lierop entry lists are HERE – this one is especially stacked.

Is there going to be livestream for the Lierop race anywhere?

I would like to watch that track for nostalgia sake. Smile

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