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Forkner needs O-Show!
They would enjoy working together. David seems to love working with riders that truly want to win and will put in the work: Austin is all of that.
It would be “perfect timing” if David could start working with Austin as his rehab starts.
No but with all the ups and downs of the last few years, some time just a change does everyone some good.
Isn't it funny how someone says "Mitch Payton wants to hire _____" and some guy on Vital is like nope that's not a good move lol
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Hard to train a kid who's spends 50% of his career on the side lines. Forkner could have raced a total of 231 motos+main events so far. He has crashed out or been injured for 115 of them.
Not sure how financial necessity made its way in.... Of course he doesn't need to work, he does it for the love of the sport clearly. He got a tryout with Austin. DV is a no BS guy and he has known both Ferrandis and Marvin before they asked him to train them and knew they were all in.
Horrible take. Forkners got what it takes
Viewing from the outside.
Dv is a hard ass. And won't take no shit.
Forkner doesn't seem to have the physical tuffness, mental strength or thick enough skin.
Dv would break him.
So from mitch paytons point. If they could make it work. It would be highly successful as it will give forkner the abilities he is lacking.
But I agree with it wouldn't work. Forkner needs a mentor, some1 to guide him thru his work. They wouldnt match. Forkner wouldn't be able to handle dv. And I reckon that's why dv said no. He spent a day with forkner and said nah. This won't work.
Dv an a guy like webb I think that would be a match.
" we can work with speed .. "
Yeah, it just hasn't worked for Forkner under Mitch's tutelage. Lots of pressure to not only perform, but win under the PC tent.
Forkner though the years has had to stare at all those #1 plates on the door & maybe tries just a bit too hard when the gate drops ?
The TLD team would've been an interesting place for him.
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Since we're making some assumptions here, any chance it went like this....?
-DV offers to train Marv, Marv says something like "I'll think about it and let you know"
-Payton approaches DV about Forkner. DV says I'll go spend a day with him and see if we're a match, but the deal is contingent because I already have an offer out to Marv.
-Forkner ride day goes well, Payton and Kawi and Forkner schedule meeting to talk numbers and confirm before final offer to DV.
-Marv hears rumors about Forkner deal, calls DV to commit before the Forkner thing goes any further.
-DV calls Payton and says thanks for the offer but I can't help Forkner this year, maybe next year.
It's so difficult to figure Pro Circuit's problems. For so long they were so successful, but now just getting any win seems an achievement, let alone championship. I know injuries occur, but to all four to six riders, year after year? And not to mention the riders who just didn't pan out. Is it team Green's amateur program, Mitch Payton's choice of riders, Kawasaki's choice of riders? The bike can't be that uncompetitive, could it? I really don't see any championship contenders on their roster either. Or coming up through the amateurs. Does anyone think Difrancesco or Jett Reynolds will be future champions? Let alone Seth Hammaker or McAdoo. I'm sure Kawasaki or Mitch Payton would love to solve the issues. Is it a money thing, lack of salary to attract good riders, no 450 program at Pro Circuit?
Maybe DV "breaking" Forkner would be the best thing for him.
Let's put it very clear for you to understand since I hate speculations:
Since I retired from my racing career in september 2009, I've never offered my services to anyone... I don't plan to do so anytime soon.
If you feel I can help you, call me. I've had the same number for 23 years. If I feel it's a good fit, we're on the same page and I have time to do it the right way, I do it.
I posted something on FB about A1 and I said I had an opportunity to work with Austin and if the FB translation is good ( I posted in french), it happened just like I said. I gave my word to Marvin prior of Mitch calling me. I didn't even talk numbers with him. And for the record, I've never had a contract with Dylan for 5 years nor with Marv this last year and a half. Just a verbal agreement and a handshake. That's how I do business.
While we have you on the hook here DV... What do you think about todays technique, more so specifically the feet on pegs in turns? Also, what surprises or makes you the happiest about todays racing and what makes you shake your head and say wtf? Wish we could get a weekly DV going on here
Feet on pegs is good on turns with a close obstacle at the exit. We see Eli do that a lot. Sometimes he doesn't have to do it though. In some turns it's good but you gotta see the difference between using that technique to anticipate an close obstacle and keeping your foot on the pegs to drag the rear brake. Looks the same but one is good and the other is not.
Racing these days is great. Lot of fast guys in very different styles which is fun to watch.
My WTF moments are seeing factory bikes with crappy setup and people working on them not knowing how a SX bike should run/look. My other pet peeve is to see riders starting to sit bounce (or is it seat bounce? I forgot...) stuff at the end of motos because their legs are shot or they're tired. Being in shape is the easiest thing to be in this sport so there is no excuses. It's way harder to have the proper technique and speed!
So a weekly fun what Grinds DV's Gears? As always love the honest answers, wish more guys like you would come around every now and again with your opinions. This place could use some proper bench racing
DV would crush La société du spectacle that Forkner has signed up to
Now these are the kind of golden nuggets that really make me love coming to this place. Honest and real insight from a former top pro into why and how they do what they do. Would love to hear more stuff like this.
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Cool to see DV closing Musquins' amazing career together. However, would have loved to see him work with Forkner. You can hate the kid but I think a change of scenery would be good to him. His talent is undeniable.
Love your no BS approach to everything DV. Straight but fair.
ML please try and talk this man into a weekly column!
I think you just made the point for having a trainer, or even a different trainer. 🙄 and I do like how DV pops in here now and again to comment. Always enjoy his perspective on things. Doesn’t seem to have a problem stating what he sees and not having to worry about towing the corporate line.
Thanks for chiming in DV !
I do hope Austin or Mitch call you back after the supercross to start working with him !
As many here, we think it could work out pretty good since Austin has the speed but also a give everything mentality which you want from your riders and with what you could bring to him on the fitness and technique it could be a great change of scenery for him
Do you know Austin personally?
Do you?
I don’t. I’m also not the one who is claiming to know his personality characteristics so I fail to see the point of your question other than to be a smartass.
Apparently, no one can have an opinion if it doesn't align with what Mr afterbar thinks...
He's just jumping in on this thread to be a drama queen...
You’re the only person trying to attack someone here. Your posts are garbage. Surely you’ve seen the response. Please show me where I defended Austin. I asked if he personally knew Austin to see if this is an opinion he formed in real life from actual interaction or just an impression he formed from the couch. Nice try though.
We all form opinions from sitting on the couch...Literally every fan of every sport does this.
We have all been watching forker in the spot light for years now. God forbit someone has an opinion about him..
Not sure what you're even getting at here other than being a drama queen but this seems to be the norm for you...
The irony in your post saying Austin is emotional and sensitive is beyond hilarious. I simply asked if you knew him personally and look at your response.
Pot meet kettle. Try not to let it bother you so much.
That's a dumb question to ask. Do I know forker? What do you think my response would be?
Again... Trying to stir up unnecessary drama, like always.
Just move on man. This is like the 5th time you have tried to stir up drama with me. It's sad.
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