MNF - Damar Hamlin from the Bills

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Wishing the best for 24 year old Damar Hamlin after collapsing following a play.  He was administered CPR for 7-10 minutes before getting carted off the field.  Scary situation that quickly shed light on the insignificance of even the biggest stage.

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AHRMA361 1/2/2023 6:56pm
1/2/2023 6:56pm

So sad. That was brutal to watch.

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Jeremy A.K. 1/2/2023 6:57pm
1/2/2023 6:57pm

It looked like a normal play ,he even sprung to his feet after the tackle.

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ATKpilot99 1/2/2023 6:58pm
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They're packing up the equipment on the sidelines . No official word but it looks like the game won't continue.

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Bill_Carroll 1/2/2023 7:07pm
1/2/2023 7:07pm

Took the hit directly on his sternum. Hope he's OK but that looked pretty serious

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tuggy450 1/2/2023 7:16pm
1/2/2023 7:16pm

Just shocking, no words, hope and prayers only

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holyroller1 1/2/2023 7:24pm
1/2/2023 7:24pm

Just gutted about this. As a lifetime Bills fan from south of Buffalo, living in Bengal territory, married to a hard core Bengal fan. Just no words.

Prayers to Hamlin and family. 

Our local fox19 station has some of the best coverage on the situation:

https://www.fox19.com/2023/01/03/bengals-bills-game-suspended-bills-dam…

 

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Chatmore 1/2/2023 7:28pm
1/2/2023 7:28pm

Gutted as well. 😢🙏

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G-man 1/2/2023 7:41pm
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No words.....

Prayers for Damar and Family 🙏

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KennyT 1/2/2023 8:39pm
1/2/2023 8:39pm

I watched the play in super slow-mo and it appeared to be a very clean hit with minimal helmet contact and what seemed like little neck/head/chest impact. The way he popped back up with functioning legs, arms, hand, head movement I am wont if he suffered cardiac arrest. Seeing they were doing CPR and oxygen when they loaded him into the ambulance it may have been heart related. I sure hope he’s okay.

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olds cool 1/3/2023 5:37am
1/3/2023 5:37am

Cardiac arrest.  Glad the medical staff from both teams got to him in time.  Heard on ESPN this morning that they did get his heart restarted with CPR before they took him off the field.  Scary situation.

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Ramrod 1/3/2023 8:14am
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Bill_Carroll wrote:

Took the hit directly on his sternum. Hope he's OK but that looked pretty serious

Looked like he took that hit directly to his heart from the other players shoulder, knarly contact!

That was an unprecedented moment on live TV.  Hope he is ok, wow!

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profeshenal125 1/3/2023 9:31am
1/3/2023 9:31am

Doing laundry lastnight at flying j in Carlisle,Pa. A driver said a played died. I didn’t see it. We had a union local guy in Jersey drop dead from the heat on the world,s strongest drill rig. We grabbed him by the boots and dragged him out of the way. The rest of the union guys got really pissed. We then shutdown until a meat wagon showed up and bagged him. Then we went back to work. Hardcore Bro,s. 

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vanillaice782 1/3/2023 4:53pm
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Ramrod wrote:
Looked like he took that hit directly to his heart from the other players shoulder, knarly contact! That was an unprecedented moment on live TV.  Hope...

Looked like he took that hit directly to his heart from the other players shoulder, knarly contact!

That was an unprecedented moment on live TV.  Hope he is ok, wow!

I have seen people talking about the theory that basically he was hit in the chest in the exact wrong location at exactly the wrong time, which caused his arrhythmia. I will try to find a video to link up. But the thing that bugs me about that is that he has massive pads on that are there to dissipate the force of the impact. It is not quite the same as being hit by a baseball in the chest without pads. Same as if you took a handlebar to the chest with or without a chest protector, the outcome would be much less severe with a chest protector. 

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SEEMEFIRST 1/3/2023 5:02pm
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Ramrod wrote:
Looked like he took that hit directly to his heart from the other players shoulder, knarly contact! That was an unprecedented moment on live TV.  Hope...

Looked like he took that hit directly to his heart from the other players shoulder, knarly contact!

That was an unprecedented moment on live TV.  Hope he is ok, wow!

vanillaice782 wrote:
I have seen people talking about the theory that basically he was hit in the chest in the exact wrong location at exactly the wrong time...

I have seen people talking about the theory that basically he was hit in the chest in the exact wrong location at exactly the wrong time, which caused his arrhythmia. I will try to find a video to link up. But the thing that bugs me about that is that he has massive pads on that are there to dissipate the force of the impact. It is not quite the same as being hit by a baseball in the chest without pads. Same as if you took a handlebar to the chest with or without a chest protector, the outcome would be much less severe with a chest protector. 

But the kinetic energy of a 200 something lb. thing making contact kinda makes the dissipation point moot compared to a baseball. 

No one can throw a baseball hard enough to knock you back a few feet. That's Hollywood. 

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ns503 1/3/2023 5:02pm
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Ramrod wrote:
Looked like he took that hit directly to his heart from the other players shoulder, knarly contact! That was an unprecedented moment on live TV.  Hope...

Looked like he took that hit directly to his heart from the other players shoulder, knarly contact!

That was an unprecedented moment on live TV.  Hope he is ok, wow!

vanillaice782 wrote:
I have seen people talking about the theory that basically he was hit in the chest in the exact wrong location at exactly the wrong time...

I have seen people talking about the theory that basically he was hit in the chest in the exact wrong location at exactly the wrong time, which caused his arrhythmia. I will try to find a video to link up. But the thing that bugs me about that is that he has massive pads on that are there to dissipate the force of the impact. It is not quite the same as being hit by a baseball in the chest without pads. Same as if you took a handlebar to the chest with or without a chest protector, the outcome would be much less severe with a chest protector. 

And sometimes people have TBIs even when wearing the best helmets money can buy.

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APLMAN99 1/3/2023 5:09pm
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Ramrod wrote:
Looked like he took that hit directly to his heart from the other players shoulder, knarly contact! That was an unprecedented moment on live TV.  Hope...

Looked like he took that hit directly to his heart from the other players shoulder, knarly contact!

That was an unprecedented moment on live TV.  Hope he is ok, wow!

vanillaice782 wrote:
I have seen people talking about the theory that basically he was hit in the chest in the exact wrong location at exactly the wrong time...

I have seen people talking about the theory that basically he was hit in the chest in the exact wrong location at exactly the wrong time, which caused his arrhythmia. I will try to find a video to link up. But the thing that bugs me about that is that he has massive pads on that are there to dissipate the force of the impact. It is not quite the same as being hit by a baseball in the chest without pads. Same as if you took a handlebar to the chest with or without a chest protector, the outcome would be much less severe with a chest protector. 

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But the kinetic energy of a 200 something lb. thing making contact kinda makes the dissipation point moot compared to a baseball.  No one can throw...

But the kinetic energy of a 200 something lb. thing making contact kinda makes the dissipation point moot compared to a baseball. 

No one can throw a baseball hard enough to knock you back a few feet. That's Hollywood. 

It could have been just that ‘perfect’ hit that just came up and got right below the front of the shoulder pads going upwards. Most DBs don’t wear the bulkiest shoulder pads available, either. 

Glad that the medical crew was able to get his heart restarted relatively quickly. Hopefully he recovers to lead a long, healthy life. 

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SEEMEFIRST 1/3/2023 5:22pm
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APLMAN99 wrote:
It could have been just that ‘perfect’ hit that just came up and got right below the front of the shoulder pads going upwards. Most DBs...

It could have been just that ‘perfect’ hit that just came up and got right below the front of the shoulder pads going upwards. Most DBs don’t wear the bulkiest shoulder pads available, either. 

Glad that the medical crew was able to get his heart restarted relatively quickly. Hopefully he recovers to lead a long, healthy life. 

Most importantly. 

 

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Muttly 1/3/2023 8:08pm
1/3/2023 8:08pm

Sad deal, from what I’ve seen today, Damar is a genuine good guy.

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vanillaice782 1/3/2023 8:51pm
1/3/2023 8:51pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
But the kinetic energy of a 200 something lb. thing making contact kinda makes the dissipation point moot compared to a baseball.  No one can throw...

But the kinetic energy of a 200 something lb. thing making contact kinda makes the dissipation point moot compared to a baseball. 

No one can throw a baseball hard enough to knock you back a few feet. That's Hollywood. 

I consulted a good friend, with a higher medical degree than me, who used to post here, but got banned (Georgie). He seemed to think the theory of him getting hit hard enough in the chest to send his heart into a fatal rhythm is plausible.

Typically when we have ER patients that go into dysrhythmias like that, we already have defibrillator pads on them, and it takes two seconds to fire that thing up and shock them back into a regular rhythm. But in that case with him in the middle of a stadium, they lost seconds and minutes because they had to tear those pads off, they had to get a defibrillator out there, and all of that takes time away. So they could have missed their chance to actually get him right from v fib into a normal rhythm by defibrillating. It's wild stuff, just have to hope the guy recovers.

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creature654 1/4/2023 1:56am
1/4/2023 1:56am

There’s been quite an uprise in random heart attacks in otherwise, seemingly healthy people the past 2 years…no coincidence there though, the YouTube doctors told me that this was totally random

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G-man 1/4/2023 5:01am
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vanillaice782 wrote:
I consulted a good friend, with a higher medical degree than me, who used to post here, but got banned (Georgie). He seemed to think the...

I consulted a good friend, with a higher medical degree than me, who used to post here, but got banned (Georgie). He seemed to think the theory of him getting hit hard enough in the chest to send his heart into a fatal rhythm is plausible.

Typically when we have ER patients that go into dysrhythmias like that, we already have defibrillator pads on them, and it takes two seconds to fire that thing up and shock them back into a regular rhythm. But in that case with him in the middle of a stadium, they lost seconds and minutes because they had to tear those pads off, they had to get a defibrillator out there, and all of that takes time away. So they could have missed their chance to actually get him right from v fib into a normal rhythm by defibrillating. It's wild stuff, just have to hope the guy recovers.

Thanks for the info, tell Georgie Hi, he was a good dude and should come back.

I for one miss him and he had some good advice for me when I had a Bad case of Pneumonia/Valley Fever that had me going to ER when I passed out from coughing the second time....

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Jeremy A.K. 1/4/2023 6:36am
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His uncle said today I believe , his heart had to be restarted twice . The lack of information coming out makes me fear for the worst . Terrible to see stuff like this happen.

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GrapeApe 1/4/2023 8:56am
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creature654 wrote:
There’s been quite an uprise in random heart attacks in otherwise, seemingly healthy people the past 2 years…no coincidence there though, the YouTube doctors told me...

There’s been quite an uprise in random heart attacks in otherwise, seemingly healthy people the past 2 years…no coincidence there though, the YouTube doctors told me that this was totally random

I'm sure you know this because you seem pretty intelligent but he didn't have a heart attack.  He went into cardiac arrest, there's a difference.

 

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tuggy450 1/4/2023 9:48am
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We had a high school lacrosse goalie hit with a ball in the chest some years back, like 25 years ago.  After that schools around here made defibrillators mandatory before games.  No one really knows if that was the story was with Mr Hamlin, but Commotio Cordis certainly fits within the differential diagnosis. Of course many things can cause, sudden Cardiac Arrest. including a Myocardial infarct or heart attack. conduction abnormalities, cardiomyopathies, etc.  At some point I hope he will be stable enough that further testing can be done.

Hopefully he can make a full recovery. He was placed in a hypothermic coma which evidence suggests may help preserve neurological function post cardiac arrest.

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roostymcgee 1/4/2023 2:06pm
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tuggy450 wrote:
We had a high school lacrosse goalie hit with a ball in the chest some years back, like 25 years ago.  After that schools around here...

We had a high school lacrosse goalie hit with a ball in the chest some years back, like 25 years ago.  After that schools around here made defibrillators mandatory before games.  No one really knows if that was the story was with Mr Hamlin, but Commotio Cordis certainly fits within the differential diagnosis. Of course many things can cause, sudden Cardiac Arrest. including a Myocardial infarct or heart attack. conduction abnormalities, cardiomyopathies, etc.  At some point I hope he will be stable enough that further testing can be done.

Hopefully he can make a full recovery. He was placed in a hypothermic coma which evidence suggests may help preserve neurological function post cardiac arrest.

There are about 10 cases of commotio cordis per year… all of them have pre-existing cardiac conditions. The odds that this run-of-the-mill hit through pads caught his heart hard enough, and at the exact moment in the complex, to cause arrest are astronomical. 
 

He did receive a vaccine booster on December 26th. At what point can we start having real conversations about the injuries these vaccines are causing? What about the Panthers player who just died in his bathroom? 38 year-olds don’t just go into cardiac arrest. 
 

 

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