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This is a funny tangent, but if you take the generations as boomer 45-64, gen x 65-81, millenial 82-95. So at the start of the millenial generation gen xers were 1-17 years old, at the end gen xers were 14-30 years old. Add to this people were waiting longer to have kids in the 80s and 90s. Clearly millenial's parents were a mix of boomers and Xers.

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11/19/2022 8:53am Edited Date/Time 11/19/2022 8:55am
I was born in the early 60s.
My mom was 19/turned 20 2 weeks later.
She took a few months off after I was born.
She went on in her career from there…she went from Secretary to Manager at major aerospace companies…this was during a period of time where that was unusual.
My dad was a year older than my mom and worked at night and went to school during the day. He went from assembly worker to division director at major aerospace companies.
They were both born in the early 40s.
Both were the 1st Gen to go to college.

On one side of my family, my grand-parents came from Portugal and the Azores (Portugal’s Islands in the Atlantic) & on the other side of my family they were Oklahoma Dust-Bowlers… both sides started with NOTHING….
But, they did have “family”. Big, Strong, Supportive…FAMILY.

So, no matter who says what about the various generations…

I know who the true bad-asses are.
And…aren’t.
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early wrote:
This is a funny tangent, but if you take the generations as boomer 45-64, gen x 65-81, millenial 82-95. So at the start of the millenial...
This is a funny tangent, but if you take the generations as boomer 45-64, gen x 65-81, millenial 82-95. So at the start of the millenial generation gen xers were 1-17 years old, at the end gen xers were 14-30 years old. Add to this people were waiting longer to have kids in the 80s and 90s. Clearly millenial's parents were a mix of boomers and Xers.

Good stuff . But I would suggest that millennials are 82 - 00 , which would make the GenX parents a larger group than the boomers . 😜 I’m an early GenX and the early boomers who were our parents were not over parenting in the slightest , trust me . And bless them for that .
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early wrote:
This is a funny tangent, but if you take the generations as boomer 45-64, gen x 65-81, millenial 82-95. So at the start of the millenial...
This is a funny tangent, but if you take the generations as boomer 45-64, gen x 65-81, millenial 82-95. So at the start of the millenial generation gen xers were 1-17 years old, at the end gen xers were 14-30 years old. Add to this people were waiting longer to have kids in the 80s and 90s. Clearly millenial's parents were a mix of boomers and Xers.

lestat wrote:
Good stuff . But I would suggest that millennials are 82 - 00 , which would make the GenX parents a larger group than the boomers...
Good stuff . But I would suggest that millennials are 82 - 00 , which would make the GenX parents a larger group than the boomers . 😜 I’m an early GenX and the early boomers who were our parents were not over parenting in the slightest , trust me . And bless them for that .
Same here . Born in 66 . My parents were both born in 47 . I grew up in the 70s . A great time to be a kid . We did run wild and I witnessed plenty of drunken parties thrown by my parents Laughing
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Same here . Born in 66 . My parents were both born in 47 . I grew up in the 70s . A great time to...
Same here . Born in 66 . My parents were both born in 47 . I grew up in the 70s . A great time to be a kid . We did run wild and I witnessed plenty of drunken parties thrown by my parents Laughing
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You know who came up with participation trophies? Boomer parents who wanted to feel like their kids were special. Millenials weren't screaming for trophies at 5...
You know who came up with participation trophies? Boomer parents who wanted to feel like their kids were special. Millenials weren't screaming for trophies at 5 years old, it was the parents.
Please stop penalizing the rest of us with your groups shitty voting habits because your parents are pussies.
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11/19/2022 8:17pm
Yeah we need a good ol' moderate republican to reinstate american values like womb murder, cronyism, and population replacement.. sorry, I mean "diversity and inclusion" lol.
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11/20/2022 1:50am
Man, there's a lot of name calling when it comes to political discussion around here.
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11/20/2022 2:18am
Nikky Haley has hinted at a run in 24. I stand to be corrected but personally I think she will do a good job.
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Too many people have grown up and never had a punch in the face.
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11/20/2022 10:38am
philG wrote:
Too many people have grown up and never had a punch in the face.
You're right!

I always thought that about tRump and his spawn.
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11/20/2022 10:40am
And those proud democrats too!😄
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I've been practicing punching people in the face so if I get an opportunity I'll be prepared



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I’d expect nothing less from you than seeing a workout/bike room with a vintage Honda banner, a training bag, two dumbbells atop a sturdy homemade work bench, a wheelbarrow full of split wood, and a crossbow. Well done, sir.
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I've been practicing punching people in the face so if I get an opportunity I'll be prepared [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/20/577557/s1200_IMG_9755_1.jpg[/img]
I've been practicing punching people in the face so if I get an opportunity I'll be prepared



I hope you’re working on your kicks & thrusts, too!
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11/20/2022 1:44pm
TeamGreen wrote:
I hope you’re working on your kicks & thrusts, too!
Judging by all the little holes in that door, you need to work on your dart throwing too.
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I let the grandson shoot it with the dart gun, it goes through the sheetrock when he misses.

We've never thrown a dart it
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11/22/2022 11:42am
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Socialists look to the government to solve their problems. Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems. Conservatives believe the true value in a society are...
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems.

Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems.

Conservatives believe the true value in a society are the people, and that the government should function in a very limited capacity.

Socialists believe the true value in a society is the government, and that the government should function in a very broad capacity.

Conservatives believe in the freedom to succeed while accepting the freedom to fail.

Socialists will trade the freedom to succeed for a government provided safety net to prevent failure.

Conservatives believe in private ownership of the means of production

Socialists believe in the the governments ownership of the means of production

Conservatives believe in equal opportunity.

Socialists believe in equal outcome.

Equal opportunity and equality of outcome are the same thing. Outcome always equals whatever the opportunities (odds) are. Flipping a coin that's 50/50 will average out...
Equal opportunity and equality of outcome are the same thing. Outcome always equals whatever the opportunities (odds) are. Flipping a coin that's 50/50 will average out to 50/50. If the coin is flipping at 60/40 it's not possible that the coin is equally balanced, it must be biased. It works the same with societal outcomes. It's the Law of Probability.

Communists believe in the government owning the means of production and the elimination of private ownership in general, not socialists. A socialist would believe that the workers should own the means of production and eliminating the capitalist owner class. A democratized work place is the socialist position.

You are correct in that fundamentally conservatives bias their view of society from a place of disposition (peoples personal character) while liberals bias their view of society from a situational perspective. It's called Attribution Theory.
I disagree, emphatically, with your first paragraph...though equal opportunity can, to a certain extent, be legislated (anti discrimination laws, for example)...its impossible to legislate equal outcome because its impossible to legislate work ethic, ingenuity, luck, perseverance, dedication, loyalty, integrity, risk tolerance, networking ability, etc. etc. etc. which have a far larger determination of outcome than anything else.

The government can give two people the same starting point, but it can't guarantee they'll both get the same outcome. It's far too personal. Well, I guess the government could try and guarantee the same outcome, but it would have to take total control of all parts of society (communism).

Your second paragraph, is correct...but socialism is a step away from, and well on the way towards, communism, and also believes the government owns the means of production.
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Muttly wrote:
You’re still upset about your participation trophy?
bh84 wrote:
You know who came up with participation trophies? Boomer parents who wanted to feel like their kids were special. Millenials weren't screaming for trophies at 5...
You know who came up with participation trophies? Boomer parents who wanted to feel like their kids were special. Millenials weren't screaming for trophies at 5 years old, it was the parents.
Typical Millennial response...nothing is your fault, always blaming someone else.
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11/22/2022 11:48am
When I was a little kid playing sports I definitely went out and bought my entire team trophies so no one would feel left out
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11/22/2022 11:51am
Muttly wrote:
You’re still upset about your participation trophy?
bh84 wrote:
You know who came up with participation trophies? Boomer parents who wanted to feel like their kids were special. Millenials weren't screaming for trophies at 5...
You know who came up with participation trophies? Boomer parents who wanted to feel like their kids were special. Millenials weren't screaming for trophies at 5 years old, it was the parents.
Titan1 wrote:
Typical Millennial response...nothing is your fault, always blaming someone else.
Can't argue with that.
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11/22/2022 12:10pm
Remember in 2016 when Trump said he would release his tax returns but couldn't yet because he was in the middle of an audit? Looks like the Supreme Court just "authorized" their release.
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11/22/2022 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2022 12:24pm
"Former Attorney General William Bar on Monday called for a new leader of the Republican Party, warning in a blistering rebuke that former President Trump “will burn the whole house down.”

“Unless the rest of the party goes along with him, he will burn the whole house down by leading ‘his people’ out of the GOP,” Barr said in a scathing op-ed published in the New York Post on Monday.

“Trump’s willingness to destroy the party if he does not get his way is not based on principle, but on his own supreme narcissism,” he added. “His egoism makes him unable to think of a political party as anything but an extension of himself — a cult of personality.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-warns-trump-will-burn-the-…
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Damn boy.
Do you ever post anything that doesn't have the name, Trump, in it ??
You seriously need psychiatric help.
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11/22/2022 1:38pm
Titan1 wrote:
I disagree, emphatically, with your first paragraph...though equal opportunity can, to a certain extent, be legislated (anti discrimination laws, for example)...its impossible to legislate equal outcome...
I disagree, emphatically, with your first paragraph...though equal opportunity can, to a certain extent, be legislated (anti discrimination laws, for example)...its impossible to legislate equal outcome because its impossible to legislate work ethic, ingenuity, luck, perseverance, dedication, loyalty, integrity, risk tolerance, networking ability, etc. etc. etc. which have a far larger determination of outcome than anything else.

The government can give two people the same starting point, but it can't guarantee they'll both get the same outcome. It's far too personal. Well, I guess the government could try and guarantee the same outcome, but it would have to take total control of all parts of society (communism).

Your second paragraph, is correct...but socialism is a step away from, and well on the way towards, communism, and also believes the government owns the means of production.
We can legislate those things by providing people the opportunity, namely resources. For example right now in the US if you don't have the money you don't have adequate access to education, healthcare or housing. Millions of Americans don't have access to the required resources for a sustainable life. Get sick with out quality insurance you go bankrupt and end up homeless. Grow up in the wrong side of town you go to a terrible school with low quality education and serious social problems. At the end of the day economics and resource distribution is everything and the average person doesn't have enough to have a decent chance. So many peoples lives are over before they ever begin because they were screwed from the jump. 1 out of 5 kids in NYC live in poverty. 20% of a generation is wasted right from the jump.

Here's a motocross example everyone here could understand. In this sport it's expensive to have all the best equipment. Bikes, track/race fees, fuel, parts ect. A kid from a wealthy family on a brand new mod 250f has all of that, a massive advantage. Compare that situation to the local kid on a 10 year old 125 with worn out tires. We'd never blame the local kid on the old bike for not being good enough to win becasuse we know he never really had a chance against the wealthy kid. Not only is he set up to fail they never had the basic resources to have a fair chance to become proficient.
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11/22/2022 2:37pm
Titan1 wrote:
I disagree, emphatically, with your first paragraph...though equal opportunity can, to a certain extent, be legislated (anti discrimination laws, for example)...its impossible to legislate equal outcome...
I disagree, emphatically, with your first paragraph...though equal opportunity can, to a certain extent, be legislated (anti discrimination laws, for example)...its impossible to legislate equal outcome because its impossible to legislate work ethic, ingenuity, luck, perseverance, dedication, loyalty, integrity, risk tolerance, networking ability, etc. etc. etc. which have a far larger determination of outcome than anything else.

The government can give two people the same starting point, but it can't guarantee they'll both get the same outcome. It's far too personal. Well, I guess the government could try and guarantee the same outcome, but it would have to take total control of all parts of society (communism).

Your second paragraph, is correct...but socialism is a step away from, and well on the way towards, communism, and also believes the government owns the means of production.
We can legislate those things by providing people the opportunity, namely resources. For example right now in the US if you don't have the money you...
We can legislate those things by providing people the opportunity, namely resources. For example right now in the US if you don't have the money you don't have adequate access to education, healthcare or housing. Millions of Americans don't have access to the required resources for a sustainable life. Get sick with out quality insurance you go bankrupt and end up homeless. Grow up in the wrong side of town you go to a terrible school with low quality education and serious social problems. At the end of the day economics and resource distribution is everything and the average person doesn't have enough to have a decent chance. So many peoples lives are over before they ever begin because they were screwed from the jump. 1 out of 5 kids in NYC live in poverty. 20% of a generation is wasted right from the jump.

Here's a motocross example everyone here could understand. In this sport it's expensive to have all the best equipment. Bikes, track/race fees, fuel, parts ect. A kid from a wealthy family on a brand new mod 250f has all of that, a massive advantage. Compare that situation to the local kid on a 10 year old 125 with worn out tires. We'd never blame the local kid on the old bike for not being good enough to win becasuse we know he never really had a chance against the wealthy kid. Not only is he set up to fail they never had the basic resources to have a fair chance to become proficient.
Your first paragraph is very telling of your tilted head sky gazing philosophy, and that is, you're not looking at what's happening right in front of you. You categorize various circumstances that prevents the average citizen from getting ahead, and also what could drag him down. There's not enough to go around to get ahead.

Yet daily for the past 15-20 months thousands of people are walking across our southern border and handed the things you say there are not enough of to go around. These new aggressors who grossly lack the ability to assimilate, and eventually will be taking that 1 of 5 kids in poverty to 5 of 10, will be handed that desk for education, will be handed that seat in the hospital waiting room. Will be placed in that home that was lost. An American life over before it begins and handed to an illegal immigrant. That's the legislation that's been done lately.

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