So....the Election....who's Team won?

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11/9/2022 4:21pm
Fetterman didn't sound nearly as bad as he did at the debate. I don't know much about him, but I have heard that he just comes...
Fetterman didn't sound nearly as bad as he did at the debate. I don't know much about him, but I have heard that he just comes from a lot of money, just like the rest of them.


Here's his acceptance speech.
https://youtu.be/QDCqr-e0GpM
Titan1 wrote:
I’d like to know who the people are that are standing there cheering for someone at 1:30 in the morning? Who gets that excited about a...
I’d like to know who the people are that are standing there cheering for someone at 1:30 in the morning? Who gets that excited about a politician?
"Who gets that excited about a politician?" Easy answer, trump supporters....
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11/9/2022 5:20pm
Fetterman didn't sound nearly as bad as he did at the debate. I don't know much about him, but I have heard that he just comes...
Fetterman didn't sound nearly as bad as he did at the debate. I don't know much about him, but I have heard that he just comes from a lot of money, just like the rest of them.


Here's his acceptance speech.
https://youtu.be/QDCqr-e0GpM
Titan1 wrote:
I’d like to know who the people are that are standing there cheering for someone at 1:30 in the morning? Who gets that excited about a...
I’d like to know who the people are that are standing there cheering for someone at 1:30 in the morning? Who gets that excited about a politician?
JMMTB69 wrote:
"Who gets that excited about a politician?" Easy answer, trump supporters....
I know there are apparently people-on both sides of the isle-who get excited about politicians…look at that Fetterman video on Page 1…it’s 1:30 in the morning and people are still cheering and screaming, as though him winning is going to significantly improve their lives is some way (it’s not though)…I’ve just never met anyone that has gone to a rally like that before…so who ARE those people? Real people? Paid actors? Who are they?
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11/9/2022 5:52pm
Titan1 wrote:
I’d like to know who the people are that are standing there cheering for someone at 1:30 in the morning? Who gets that excited about a...
I’d like to know who the people are that are standing there cheering for someone at 1:30 in the morning? Who gets that excited about a politician?
JMMTB69 wrote:
"Who gets that excited about a politician?" Easy answer, trump supporters....
Titan1 wrote:
I know there are apparently people-on both sides of the isle-who get excited about politicians…look at that Fetterman video on Page 1…it’s 1:30 in the morning...
I know there are apparently people-on both sides of the isle-who get excited about politicians…look at that Fetterman video on Page 1…it’s 1:30 in the morning and people are still cheering and screaming, as though him winning is going to significantly improve their lives is some way (it’s not though)…I’ve just never met anyone that has gone to a rally like that before…so who ARE those people? Real people? Paid actors? Who are they?
I have no clue. A politicians only job is to get re-elected. They will say whatever it takes. However, they typically have wealthy donors and they have to appease the donors. So If what you want is in line with what the donors want, that's who you vote for because their job is to do what gets them more money to get re-elected.
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11/9/2022 5:55pm
Two years from now we will have more taxes to pay and we will be less free. I would love to see somebody disagree with this statement.
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11/9/2022 6:25pm
with the quality of some of the candidates on both sides, China probably won,
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11/9/2022 7:12pm
rosebud441 wrote:
Team USA won, biggly
This guy seems to be getting tired of so much winning.....



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11/9/2022 7:27pm
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I don't follow this kinda stuff very closely. Just figured it was another entitled little dickhead using family influence to get rich-er. I do use the...
I don't follow this kinda stuff very closely. Just figured it was another entitled little dickhead using family influence to get rich-er. I do use the same yardstick I used for Trump bullshit. If Joe got his hands dirty in anything...fuck him up the ass.

Lots of greasy people out there but if you're gonna be president...you better have your shit together or be prepared to eat it.
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I'm pretty sure Ghislaine Maxwell has a black book of folks that got away with it




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11/9/2022 7:30pm
I drove 780 mi today to Boston I scanned the radio a bit. Only politics I heard was on public radio and that was about mega republicans ruining the country. I hv no idea who won what. Freight is down ovr 50% so I hope something good happened Tuesday . Stocks went upa bit predicting a republican
House.
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11/9/2022 8:43pm
rosebud441 wrote:
Team USA won, biggly
ToolMaker wrote:
Even those that don't know it won. It's going to slow down some of the stupid in Washington. If the Dems end up with 51 in...
Even those that don't know it won. It's going to slow down some of the stupid in Washington. If the Dems end up with 51 in the senate, we all lose. There will be court packing.
I think it's unclear if the VP can constitutionally vote on changing that and with only 50 votes it won't go through.
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The Constitution does not stipulate the number of Supreme Court Justices; the number is set instead by Congress. There have been as few as six, but since 1869 there have been nine Justices, including one Chief Justice.

The vp has,the tie breaking vote on any issues
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11/9/2022 9:08pm
early wrote:
Seems like yesterday's election validates the results of the 2020 election for anyone skeptical.
philG wrote:
Seems like yesterdays election underlines the skepticism.

Same shit getting pulled in all the same places.

By the same people.

Third World shithousery.

Lol
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7I3N
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11/9/2022 9:10pm
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Lol
zehn wrote:
The funniest part is he 100% believes that
That’s the terrifying part.
Wrong. The terrifying part is if the elections are legit, that means the voting public likes the way things are going.
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11/9/2022 9:17pm
Fetterman didn't sound nearly as bad as he did at the debate. I don't know much about him, but I have heard that he just comes...
Fetterman didn't sound nearly as bad as he did at the debate. I don't know much about him, but I have heard that he just comes from a lot of money, just like the rest of them.


Here's his acceptance speech.
https://youtu.be/QDCqr-e0GpM
Titan1 wrote:
I’d like to know who the people are that are standing there cheering for someone at 1:30 in the morning? Who gets that excited about a...
I’d like to know who the people are that are standing there cheering for someone at 1:30 in the morning? Who gets that excited about a politician?
JMMTB69 wrote:
"Who gets that excited about a politician?" Easy answer, trump supporters....

Ha ha, bingo!
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11/10/2022 2:28am
There is a "wave" that came out of this.
We wave goodbye to pelosi as speaker of the house of representatives.
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11/10/2022 2:46am
There is a "wave" that came out of this.
We wave goodbye to pelosi as speaker of the house of representatives.
🙌🙌🙌
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As long as Steve Cox still isn’t in Congress, we all win……
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I'd say with the number of close races, the rate of voting participation and the fact that we have gone through 6 years and 4 voting cycles of the most partisan times most living American citizens have ever seen without widespread political violence there's reason to celebrate the country not being completely broken yet.

Don't listen to the muckrakers. We are not enemies of each other. We all need to work together to make a better society.
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That abortion decision by the Supreme Court, is what saved the democrats.

If that decision came out today…Republicans would have taken even more seats in the house and easily taken the majority in the senate.
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Titan1 wrote:
That abortion decision by the Supreme Court, is what saved the democrats. If that decision came out today…Republicans would have taken even more seats in the...
That abortion decision by the Supreme Court, is what saved the democrats.

If that decision came out today…Republicans would have taken even more seats in the house and easily taken the majority in the senate.
Blaming fundamental Republican policies for Republican losses is the first step to fixing your party.
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11/10/2022 6:26am Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 6:26am
I don’t think he is questioning the policy decision, just the timing.
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Titan1 wrote:
That abortion decision by the Supreme Court, is what saved the democrats. If that decision came out today…Republicans would have taken even more seats in the...
That abortion decision by the Supreme Court, is what saved the democrats.

If that decision came out today…Republicans would have taken even more seats in the house and easily taken the majority in the senate.
So what you’re saying is that if the Republican appointed SC majority would have just held off from exposing a basic tenet of the Republican platform, then more people might have been fooled and could have voted Republican because they wouldn’t have been smacked in the face with their stance? Does that about sum it up?
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11/10/2022 6:34am
Embarrassed to be from Pennsylvania. Both candidates sucked. I was shocked when Oz said he was a Republican, I would have never guessed that. All the people cheering for Fetterman was because his main issue was legalizing pot. PA elected a dead man as well.
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11/10/2022 6:49am
rosebud441 wrote:
Team USA won, biggly
ToolMaker wrote:
Even those that don't know it won. It's going to slow down some of the stupid in Washington. If the Dems end up with 51 in...
Even those that don't know it won. It's going to slow down some of the stupid in Washington. If the Dems end up with 51 in the senate, we all lose. There will be court packing.
I think it's unclear if the VP can constitutionally vote on changing that and with only 50 votes it won't go through.
TM
JustMX wrote:
The Constitution does not stipulate the number of Supreme Court Justices; the number is set instead by Congress. There have been as few as six, but...
The Constitution does not stipulate the number of Supreme Court Justices; the number is set instead by Congress. There have been as few as six, but since 1869 there have been nine Justices, including one Chief Justice.

The vp has,the tie breaking vote on any issues
Yes the number is set by congress, but while she casts the tie breaking vote on legislative issues, on this issue it's unclear if she can vote as she is executive. It's all opinion until the Supreme Court decides.
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11/10/2022 7:12am
ToolMaker wrote:
Even those that don't know it won. It's going to slow down some of the stupid in Washington. If the Dems end up with 51 in...
Even those that don't know it won. It's going to slow down some of the stupid in Washington. If the Dems end up with 51 in the senate, we all lose. There will be court packing.
I think it's unclear if the VP can constitutionally vote on changing that and with only 50 votes it won't go through.
TM
JustMX wrote:
The Constitution does not stipulate the number of Supreme Court Justices; the number is set instead by Congress. There have been as few as six, but...
The Constitution does not stipulate the number of Supreme Court Justices; the number is set instead by Congress. There have been as few as six, but since 1869 there have been nine Justices, including one Chief Justice.

The vp has,the tie breaking vote on any issues
ToolMaker wrote:
Yes the number is set by congress, but while she casts the tie breaking vote on legislative issues, on this issue it's unclear if she can...
Yes the number is set by congress, but while she casts the tie breaking vote on legislative issues, on this issue it's unclear if she can vote as she is executive. It's all opinion until the Supreme Court decides.
That's why they choose 9 justices.
There can't be a tie, I guess unless one chooses either to recuse himself or decides not to weigh in on a case.
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Titan1 wrote:
That abortion decision by the Supreme Court, is what saved the democrats. If that decision came out today…Republicans would have taken even more seats in the...
That abortion decision by the Supreme Court, is what saved the democrats.

If that decision came out today…Republicans would have taken even more seats in the house and easily taken the majority in the senate.
APLMAN99 wrote:
So what you’re saying is that if the Republican appointed SC majority would have just held off from exposing a basic tenet of the Republican platform...
So what you’re saying is that if the Republican appointed SC majority would have just held off from exposing a basic tenet of the Republican platform, then more people might have been fooled and could have voted Republican because they wouldn’t have been smacked in the face with their stance? Does that about sum it up?
Not at all, the SC made the right decision in handing that down to the states…it’s not about fooling anyone, the people that issue pissed off wouldn’t vote republican no matter what…I’m saying that that issue slammed in the face of democrats motivated them to get out and vote. For some reason they feel the FEDERAL government upholding their right to kill a baby is more important than the economy or inflation or national debt or being respected on the international stage, etc etc etc….but talk about killing babies and they get really fired up…and those additional pissed of democrats showed up to vote. How many polls in blue and swing states showed abortion as a higher priority than anything else this year? A lot! And that is what made the difference…in my opinion.
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11/10/2022 8:07am
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about. I like balance, so that to me is a good thing.

Now, maybe the only legislation that will pass are those laws which make a lot of sense to both parties. If that means zero new laws, so be it.
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11/10/2022 8:13am
zehn wrote:
The funniest part is he 100% believes that
That’s the terrifying part.
7I3N wrote:
Wrong. The terrifying part is if the elections are legit, that means the voting public likes the way things are going.
No, they just don't like the celebrities, maga morons, and election deniers. The Reps need to do better, A LOT better. This was the EASIEST climate for the GOP to score a huge win and they blew it massively.

Stop campaigning on abortion, for one. Look at Kentucky and Kansas... Let it go. Move on. I can't believe some candidates campaigned on banning abortion entirely, no exceptions. Yikes. Don't fuck with women.

Stop peddling conspiracy theories. Undermining the electoral process with claims of a stolen election is not liked. Sorry, it's true, the majority of folks don't buy into crazy fringe theories.

I'll vote for any intelligent candidate that campaigns on sound ideas and policy... As soon as the crazy rhetoric starts I'm out.
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11/10/2022 8:15am
Falcon wrote:
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about...
It seems the Republicans have at least broken the Democratic stranglehold on congress, even if they did not experience the "red wave" everyone was talking about. I like balance, so that to me is a good thing.

Now, maybe the only legislation that will pass are those laws which make a lot of sense to both parties. If that means zero new laws, so be it.
Gridlock for 2 years with occasional fights over the debt ceiling. The less the government can do, the better.
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Titan1 wrote:
That abortion decision by the Supreme Court, is what saved the democrats. If that decision came out today…Republicans would have taken even more seats in the...
That abortion decision by the Supreme Court, is what saved the democrats.

If that decision came out today…Republicans would have taken even more seats in the house and easily taken the majority in the senate.
APLMAN99 wrote:
So what you’re saying is that if the Republican appointed SC majority would have just held off from exposing a basic tenet of the Republican platform...
So what you’re saying is that if the Republican appointed SC majority would have just held off from exposing a basic tenet of the Republican platform, then more people might have been fooled and could have voted Republican because they wouldn’t have been smacked in the face with their stance? Does that about sum it up?
Titan1 wrote:
Not at all, the SC made the right decision in handing that down to the states…it’s not about fooling anyone, the people that issue pissed off...
Not at all, the SC made the right decision in handing that down to the states…it’s not about fooling anyone, the people that issue pissed off wouldn’t vote republican no matter what…I’m saying that that issue slammed in the face of democrats motivated them to get out and vote. For some reason they feel the FEDERAL government upholding their right to kill a baby is more important than the economy or inflation or national debt or being respected on the international stage, etc etc etc….but talk about killing babies and they get really fired up…and those additional pissed of democrats showed up to vote. How many polls in blue and swing states showed abortion as a higher priority than anything else this year? A lot! And that is what made the difference…in my opinion.
I don't think that abortion is a high priority for most people. Having the right to control their own bodies is probably a high priority, though.

And while I hate to derail a decent thread, the whole "killing babies" hyperbole is a complete farce. No rational person believes that an embryo is the same things as a 3 MO baby. It's fairly easy to demonstrate that, also.
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